Winnipeg @ BC pre-game

Started by Pigskin, September 30, 2023, 04:07:26 PM

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TBURGESS

How much do the Lions need VAJ? They beat us with him & got beaten by us without him. BC's backup QB only threw for about 140 yards against us. VAJ regularly throws for over 300.

Brady O should have a good game against their D line, but it won't matter if they can drop 300+ yards passing on us.

I'm looking forward to the battle of the best in the West vs the 2nd best in the West and finding out which team is which.
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The Zipp

Time for Willie to make his presence known in a big way...Jeffcoat too...they are the big dogs on defence and they need to play like they are in charge.  I hope it isn't Ben Major reffing the game - IMO he is the worst in the CFL.

The Zipp

Grant is back at full practice...Houston is not.



Ed Tait

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Quote from: TBURGESS on October 03, 2023, 04:19:38 PM
How much do the Lions need VAJ? They beat us with him & got beaten by us without him. BC's backup QB only threw for about 140 yards against us. VAJ regularly throws for over 300.

Brady O should have a good game against their D line, but it won't matter if they can drop 300+ yards passing on us.

I'm looking forward to the battle of the best in the West vs the 2nd best in the West and finding out which team is which.

Adams will probably get his 300 yards anyway, key is getting good pressure and coming up with interceptions and turnovers when he throws ill advised passes.  Like BLM he's become a real gunslinger and the longer the passes, the more chance the secondary has a chance to react to the ball.

Pete

Adams may get 300 yards which is fine since they don't have a running game. The area they have really racked up yards against us is the return  game.
The other factor is how good we can run the ball, eat up the clock and reduce the reps Adams gets. We do that and we'll be successful.
It will also keep our dline fresher, for most of the first half of the bc sask game the riders were able to get good pressure on him and limit his success . We need to find ways to do that for 60 minutes.

3rdand1.5

The best way to get to VAJ and keep him from completed long passes and making big plays is to have him on the sideline.

The more we get Brady and the run game involved the more we can chew the clock, the more we chew the clock, the less opportunity VAJ has to make big plays.

No defence including our can fully defend the BC offence, but they can't score from the sidelines watching, so make them watch as much as we can.

Own the TOP and the clock, and get up early in score and force VAJ into hopefully making a mistake or two or three....

Blue In BC

Quote from: The Zipp on October 03, 2023, 04:41:07 PM
Grant is back at full practice...Houston is not.



Ed Tait

@EdTaitWFC
News from Bomberland: Janarion Grant in full gear as
@Wpg_BlueBombers
practice begins


Hmmmm. Would be good to get Grant back especially to reduce the workload for Parker if Houston can't play. I'd also like to see Parker on the roster even if Houston plays. We need depth on the AR if we have an injury in the secondary. Last week showed that need.

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GOLDMEMBER

Great to hopefully get Grant back just in time for he most important regular season game of the year.

I agree JJ and Willie need to show up in a big way here.

Our receivers should be able to get open against these guys. Steady dose of Brady O.

Kick coverage needs to be shored up hopefully better with returning STers
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dd

Adams will shred our secondary and scramble for yards driving our whole defense nuts. I don?t see our front 7 ?getting to him?. They haven?t gotten to anyone all year

BBRT

Quote from: peg_city on October 03, 2023, 08:39:42 PM
Lions now favoured by 1.5

Good! We got them right where we want them! ???

Blueforlife

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Grant back is huge.  Our D will get some pressure but Adams is quick and can throw a dart on the run.  Big challenge. 

Quote from: dd on October 03, 2023, 09:10:08 PM
Adams will shred our secondary and scramble for yards driving our whole defense nuts. I don?t see our front 7 ?getting to him?. They haven?t gotten to anyone all year
Our DL has had a few good games imo.  Our secondary is good, we will give up yards but will come through.  Agree on the scramble part.

Houston is a big piece of the back end.  Hope he is ok.  Anyone know if Parker is ok?

Lawrence practiced.  No mention of Parker on the report.

Pete

Quote from: dd on October 03, 2023, 09:10:08 PM
Adams will shred our secondary and scramble for yards driving our whole defense nuts. I don?t see our front 7 ?getting to him?. They haven?t gotten to anyone all year
In the game we played them where Adams played he threw for a total of 240 yards, it was their defence that won the game for them. It comes down to protecting Zac and controlling the pace of the game

Blueforlife

Quote from: Pete on October 03, 2023, 09:51:08 PM
In the game we played them where Adams played he threw for a total of 240 yards, it was their defence that won the game for them. It comes down to protecting Zac and controlling the pace of the game
Agree.  Win the game on the line of scrimmage and if our OL delivers, we have a great chance.  Run the rock, control the clock and go deep enough to keep pace.

TecnoGenius

Since our initial loss to BC we've been working heavily on the 2 spare NAT OL as well as Jackson48 on the jumbo sets.  Lots of creative looks, and lots of shifts by OL and movement by 48.  It's part of what made Brady so good in the TOR game.  It's prepping us for cold weather ball.  We will have a huge advantage should the WDF be played in a cold IGF, and a cold GC.

BC's D is built for pass rush.  Betts was pretty lost as a run stopper in our 2nd game.  He actually looked foolish most of the game, going into every scheme and coverage imaginable except the one where the ball was.  I expect BC to make massive adjustments to match our plan from the 2nd game... however, we've morphed into something different already and I don't think they'll know which scheme to anticipate.

The great short pass game we showed vs TOR will also help us here.  BC's DBs are superb so the only way you'll beat them deep is with trickery / tendency smashers, or short ball.  We'll have to take a few more deep shots than in the TOR game, because we must mix it up (maybe to start the game), and if we do we need to go super deep, not deep.  We need better isolation of receivers: we had too many passes vs TOR where TOR D would shed their guy and get to the target, causing INTs or breakups.  That's bad scheme for us with guys too close.
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