Official Game Day Thread - Toronto at Winnipeg - September 29, 2023

[TecnoGenius]

2Q0:30 On the unforgivable offside on the fake 3rd&2 attempt by TOR... notice how the TOR C does his pointing thing and then he bobs his head twice in a very strange way and that is what draws Wilson (the guilty party) offside.

Here's the thing: the bobs sure looks to me like it's the TOR C who is calling out the cadence and hut.  I'm not sure I've ever seen this before, and I'm not sure this is allowed.  It's not so much the shouting that is illegal, it's the fact that when he is shouting it out he is bobbing his head in a manner that is not legal procedure.

And if you watch Dukes carefully it's clear he's not calling out anything as his chest/body/head don't move in the slightest.

I'm pretty sure the C isn't allowed to bark cadence while bobbing his head suddenly like a snap is occurring.  And the ball is being moved ever so slightly each time he barks (on the down-the-line angle).  I think that should have been IP.

Regardless, Wilson, my Lord, this is TOR's dumb fakery they do every game like they're in the NFL or something.  You stand 2 yards back from the line and you laugh at them.  You don't fall into the neutral zone.

[TecnoGenius]

Knee looks bad for Houston

I don't think he blew it out.  A bit concerning he didn't return, but it might be precautionary.  He walked off ok without help.

I watched the play carefully and his foot was stuck on the turf for a super short time and he got it up and then flipped his whole body around in the direction to relieve the pressure.  If anything it was that initial whack that did the most damage.  If his cleat had been stuck any longer that's a nasty injury.  I think he may get away with minor damage and be back this season.

Houston is probably our best DB this season (though many are still scared to throw on Nichols).  It would be bad to lose him.  However, Parker is also very good, and in a pinch there's Swarmy.  P.S. the injury was friendly fire, by Lawson I believe.

[Sec223]

3rd and 4 - run BO.  he will get you 3 almost guaranteed...then prukop the other yard

So we get 4 downs now ?

[The Zipp]

So we get 4 downs now ?

I would like to see how many points teams could put up using 4 downs...

[Tiger]

1Q11:59 Demski hitch screen, he's getting lots of YAC and YAFC with defenders hanging all over him.  He's basically wrapped up and held motionless and TOR #30 Jones(?) comes in and crowns his facemask in a clear spear, he actually jumps off of his two feet.  There's actually 4 other TOR D hanging onto Demski when #30 makes the hit.

It's really nasty and obvious and I can't believe a) refs didn't see it, and b) EITS didn't intervene to call it.  If you want pics, I can post pics.  CFL needs to fine the guy.  It was Simoni-level bad.  I'm shocked Demski just shook it off; maybe should have attended the Cody School Of Writhing to ensure EITS takes a look.  (Sorry if someone posted about this already, it's my 4am rewatch vent time...)

And thanks TSN for making the only replay one that is behind Demski so you can't see the illegal hit.

Yup

[Tiger]

2Q0:30 On the unforgivable offside on the fake 3rd&2 attempt by TOR... notice how the TOR C does his pointing thing and then he bobs his head twice in a very strange way and that is what draws Wilson (the guilty party) offside.

Here's the thing: the bobs sure looks to me like it's the TOR C who is calling out the cadence and hut.  I'm not sure I've ever seen this before, and I'm not sure this is allowed.  It's not so much the shouting that is illegal, it's the fact that when he is shouting it out he is bobbing his head in a manner that is not legal procedure.

And if you watch Dukes carefully it's clear he's not calling out anything as his chest/body/head don't move in the slightest.

I'm pretty sure the C isn't allowed to bark cadence while bobbing his head suddenly like a snap is occurring.  And the ball is being moved ever so slightly each time he barks (on the down-the-line angle).  I think that should have been IP.

Regardless, Wilson, my Lord, this is TOR's dumb fakery they do every game like they're in the NFL or something.  You stand 2 yards back from the line and you laugh at them.  You don't fall into the neutral zone.

I don?t think he is prohibited from calling it but he cannot be making motions without getting a penalty ?. Oh wait he did!
Lol

[Tiger]

That was an embarrassing game.

Did not instill confidence

[buckzumhoff]

It was a very good game and a good win.  Only allowed Toronto 11 first downs to 28. A big difference.  Toronto had good field position didn't have to work the ball downfield as much. The announcer speaker was blasting all game . Couldn't even hear the refs call on plays.  Wolitarsky found holes in their defence bug Toronto plays way back in coverage . That's where the shirt passes beat them

[John T.]

That was an embarrassing game.

Of course it wasn't!

As much as it pains me to say it, the Argos have about as good a defensive secondary as I've ever seen. They were NOT going to be beaten by the big plays the Bombers excel at, so instead, we picked at them until we got the job done. It would have been nice to have more majors and fewer field goals, but it's almost certain that the series when Oliveira fumbled, late in the first half, was going to be a touchdown drive.

As for their offense...it took two series for the Bomber defense to pull their heads out of their butts, but after they did, they shut 'em down the rest of the way.

Take away the Oliveira fumble, and have the defense show up to start the game, and it's a rout. If the Bombers had done those two things, Kelly at QB for the Argos wouldn't have made much difference.

[J5V]

Toronto sat Ouellette for most of the game and if they didn't take Dukes out in the 4th quarter and put #5  in at QB, we may not have won this game. Our Achilles heel this year continues to be our special teams play. I don't think we win the GC if we make it there because of our special teams.

Ouellette had his legs chopped out from under him on a run up the middle and was hit hard and landed hard. The game feautured a lot of hard hits by both Ds. I don't know if Ouelette was hurt but I think Dinwiddie panicked when he saw that and pulled Ouellette at that point. The Argos are clearly deathly afraid of injuries.

[Waffler]

Zach really felt some of those hits. Although TO is a very hard hitting team, I think the toll of the season is catching up to him. I worry Buck coaches like he plays, take the hits to make plays. Lapo was more get the ball out and don't get hit at all.

[buckzumhoff]

There were some very good  hits  to oulette and another receiver near the sidelines. Some one dragged him down I think it was Cole on their wide receiver  or Leake. But he didn't land very good . Dinwiddie could be worried. But lots of games to go .I wonder if he will sit these players as gainst other teams

[J5V]

TOR plays the little 3rd down offside game more than anyone else.  I'm screaming don't go offside, don't go offside, it's a bluff.  Dude goes offside.  I totally lost my bleepity bleep right there in the stands.

LOL! Yes they do and TSN showed O'Shea's face and he was clearly unimpressed. I have no doubt it will be addressed. It was our one and only encounter with the Argos this year and overall we did okay and stayed disciplined. What really stood out to me was how dirty that Toronto team plays. They got flagged for some of it but got away with a lot of dirt too, the high hit on Demski being a prime example. Some late and dirty stuff against BO also. One of the reasons I dislike the Argos so much is that they play to injure and clearly have no regard for player safety while being deathly afraid of injury themselves. Hypocrites.

[J5V]

That was an embarrassing game.

Did not instill confidence

Agreed, but we got a good look at them and know what to expect in a GC rematch. We'll be ready.

[J5V]

It was a very good game and a good win.  Only allowed Toronto 11 first downs to 28. A big difference.  Toronto had good field position didn't have to work the ball downfield as much. The announcer speaker was blasting all game . Couldn't even hear the refs call on plays.  Wolitarsky found holes in their defence bug Toronto plays way back in coverage . That's where the shirt passes beat them

Yes, Woli was very good as was Shoen. Baily and Demski played well also.