Argos at Blue Bombers PRE GAME thread

[kkc60]

knowing how we play against backup QBs, Torontos odds might've gone uo

[Pete]

We all know that argos have a struggle drawing fans, does it help now that they' ve decided to show this game isn't important? You'd think they'd want to get as many watching as possible to build excitement

[peg_city]

Vegas line went from Bombers -2.5 to Bombers -7.5 with the Toronto QB news.

[blue_gold_84]

knowing how we play against backup QBs, Torontos odds might've gone uo

Maybe if it were a road game. But it isn't.

[3rdand1.5]

Why are some people ripping on Dinwiddie?

The guys team is head and shoulders above everyone else, yes including us. they have an almost perfect record and have nothing to gain or lose as far as win/loss record at this point. They have first and know that they will be hosting the Eastern Final. The know that they have no byes left.

With that information why risk an injury, or further aggravating an injury, play your stars minimally give them simple plays to keep them in game speed, and then get them rested and as healthy as can be for the final two game push, who cares about winning and losing until then.

Trust the "next man up" that they will do enough to win, and even if they don't it exposes them to actual live game reps against real competition, that you can't get in practice or TC. Heaven forbid you still get an injury to Kelly for example at least this way Dukes has some recent live experience.

Heck if Dinwiddie himself would have been afforded that opportunity he may very well have been a hero in WPG and broken our drought.

Regardless of storylines, marketing, ripping fans off, this IS a smart move by him...the guys who is all but a shoe in to win coach of the year, the same guy who won the GC last year and has guided his team to record breaking levels....I guess his blue is too light so he must be dumb....cmon man!

[BBRT]

Why are some people ripping on Dinwiddie?

The guys team is head and shoulders above everyone else, yes including us. they have an almost perfect record and have nothing to gain or lose as far as win/loss record at this point. They have first and know that they will be hosting the Eastern Final. The know that they have no byes left.

With that information why risk an injury, or further aggravating an injury, play your stars minimally give them simple plays to keep them in game speed, and then get them rested and as healthy as can be for the final two game push, who cares about winning and losing until then.

Trust the "next man up" that they will do enough to win, and even if they don't it exposes them to actual live game reps against real competition, that you can't get in practice or TC. Heaven forbid you still get an injury to Kelly for example at least this way Dukes has some recent live experience.

Heck if Dinwiddie himself would have been afforded that opportunity he may very well have been a hero in WPG and broken our drought.

Regardless of storylines, marketing, ripping fans off, this IS a smart move by him...the guys who is all but a shoe in to win coach of the year, the same guy who won the GC last year and has guided his team to record breaking levels....I guess his blue is too light so he must be dumb....cmon man!

What he said!! Agree 100%

[Pete]

This isnt about Dinwiddie, hes  a good coach. Its about building the cfl as a product. This year has been disappointing for a lot of markets and fans are losing interest. People and media have been looking forward to this game for months. For all the talk of rest you thinrk the eastern final was next week.
We need more reasons to watch cfl games not less.

[3rdand1.5]

This isnt about Dinwiddie, hes  a good coach. Its about building the cfl as a product. This year has been disappointing for a lot of markets and fans are losing interest. People and media have been looking forward to this game for months. For all the talk of rest you thinrk the eastern final was next week.
We need more reasons to watch cfl games not less.

Fair but then direct the frustration at the CFL for having the game scheduled this late in the season.

[GOLDMEMBER]

I just is to bad the east is so terrible AGAIN that the Argos have no real competition. That is what sucks.

[BBRT]

I just is to bad the east is so terrible AGAIN that the Argos have no real competition. That is what sucks.

You know we may never know how good the 2023 addition of Argos are until we see them in the Grey Cup again. And if they get bumped out in the EF we will never know. Strange year!

[peg_city]

With Kelly getting half time for the next 5 games, you kind of wonder what that does to the MOP race.

[Blue In BC]

McManis and Peters are out for the Argos. They both excellent players on defence. Our daily IR report is the usual BS. Hansen, Schoen and Jeffcoat shown as questionable after being limited in today's practice. So much for transparency.

[J5V]

I believe Toronto sitting many of their starters for this game is a colossal mistake. This was to be the litmus test. This game was going to be the one to show everyone that they are indeed the best team in the league.

It was supposed to be Kelly against Collaros. I know Collaros is disappointed but if I was Kelly, and he's the competitor I believe him to be, I'd be PISSED! This is not the game to be taking a seat in. This was to be the game that was the most fun of all.

This was the Grey Cup rematch and a renewal of a GC rivalry. Finally a real meaningful game by the two most explosive teams in the league. In the back of their minds Argos players have to be wondering "What's the matter coach, don't you think our best can beat their best, what are you afraid of, an injury? Really?" Their coach has taken that opportunity from them. Why?

By pulling the fuse out of the dynamite Dinwiddie has neutered his team and basically told his club he's afraid. Afraid to risk playing his starters. Afraid of what the Bombers might do to his team.

The optics are terrible! This was the game that could have truly defined the Argos as the league's best. Win and the Argos would have been on top of the world. They needed this game even more than we did. Now, win or lose, by sitting their starters they'll be left wondering.

This is a huge mistake and when they lose in either the East final or the Grey Cup I'll look back to this decision as the reason why.

Never, ever, let fear dictate your decisions.

[bluengold204]

I believe Toronto sitting many of their starters for this game is a colossal mistake. This was to be the litmus test. This game was going to be the one to show everyone that they are indeed the best team in the league.

It was supposed to be Kelly against Collaros. I know Collaros is disappointed but if I was Kelly, and he's the competitor I believe him to be, I'd be PISSED! This is not the game to be taking a seat in. This was to be the game that was the most fun of all.

This was the Grey Cup rematch and a renewal of a GC rivalry. Finally a real meaningful game by the two most explosive teams in the league. In the back of their minds Argos players have to be wondering "What's the matter coach, don't you think our best can beat their best, what are you afraid of, an injury? Really?" Their coach has taken that opportunity from them. Why?

By pulling the fuse out of the dynamite Dinwiddie has neutered his team and basically told his club he's afraid. Afraid to risk playing his starters. Afraid of what the Bombers might do to his team.

The optics are terrible! This was the game that could have truly defined the Argos as the league's best. Win and the Argos would have been on top of the world. They needed this game even more than we did. Now, win or lose, by sitting their starters they'll be left wondering.

This is a huge mistake and when they lose in either the East final or the Grey Cup I'll look back to this decision as the reason why.

Never, ever, let fear dictate your decisions.

I bet the players are saying the opposite.  Remember the Argos had all their bye weeks by week 11.  They are probably happy to be in the position to be able to rest up and heal.  Probably would rather face us in the grey cup fully healthy rather then a meaningless game for them.

[Pete]

cmon they have 5 games left! its way too early for rest. They've already had 3 byes ..there the freshest team in the league. (by the way, many times its when you take your foot off the gas thats when you get hurt)