Horrifically Bad UR Call

Started by TecnoGenius, August 19, 2023, 06:55:21 AM

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TecnoGenius

In a season of aggravating UR calls, the flag on Holm's great INT attempt / pass breakup (3Q6:08) takes the cake.  It's a whole new level of bad CFL reffing.  Embarrassing actually.

It's so bad that fans from across the league thought it was bad.  I haven't checked what the CGY fans thought yet, but I bet at least half of them thought it was at least ticky-tack too.  It's so bad that our evil rivals one province over universally exclaimed it was not UR:

https://www.riderfans.com/forum/forum/main-forum/1015732-gdt-bombers-at-stamps/page9
(2 pages down)

I believe in this case, where the coach cannot challenge, that Command Center needs to step in and right the wrong.  They do it in the NFL (and all the lesser leagues).  By rule command can auto review it and fix it.

The hit wasn't late.  The hit wasn't early (or that would be DPI).  Holm was tracking the ball the whole way.  Holm was playing the ball and may have had a better shot at a catch than Begelton.  There was no H2H.  There was no head hit at all.  Holm doesn't change direction into Begelton, it's more a glancing swipe than any sort of hit.  It's actually Begelton's arm that catches on Holm and spins himself around.  Holm almost caught the ball under Begelton's hands after he whiffed on it.  Even the booth guys got it right when they saw the replay.

This isn't the first time we got a completely fake UR when it's Begelton.  He's really good at going limp on any hit and doing the Cody School Of Writhing thing on the turf, which always gets the refs in the tendie feelz.  Remember that Reggie spinning in the air a few times UR the other year when I think BA37 hit him?  That was bogus too, but this one was boguser, or even bogusist.

The league needs to correct these types of things in real time.  And apologize to us after the fact.  This was a huge explosion play at a critical time.

The worst part, the most aggravating part, is it cancelled out an amazing across-the-field play by Holm, one that should be celebrated, not penalized.

Bonus hot take: That was Maier throwing into triple coverage.  A really bad read.
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TecnoGenius

MOS post-game:
https://www.bluebombers.com/2023/08/18/coach-oshea-august-18/

@ 3:11

MOS says the officials told him "there was head contact".  If that was the word going around the officials, then 100% the EITS should have overturned when it was obvious on replay there was no head contact.  Worst ref mistake of the season?

I wonder if it's the same (probably-lives-in-Calgary) ref that called that Michel non-catch a catch...
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GOLDMEMBER

Holm got robbed there. No head contact. Hate to say it if MOS challenges that he loses because the command Center is stupid.
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bunker

I understand the need to prevent concussions but these refs  are ruining the game and turning it into flag football. Same with the call on Biggie 2 games ago. Command centre should have stepped in, to protect the integrity of the game.

Sir Blue and Gold

I can totally see why they threw the flag. It looked bad. Even one of the TSN replay angles looked bad. The other seemed to show he only made contact with his arms. It's a high speed game and those are going to happen. Last week we were all angry about the Collaros hit that wasn't called. It's a different play, but I don't mind erring on the side of safety. Holm was going for the ball but he also knew he was going through the receiver. Shouldn't have been a flag but I wouldn't complain about it.

Tehedra

At the game live it looked like begelton ran into our guy and I was expecting an OPI call.  Was pissed when it was some bogus UR call.  My cousin (stamps fan) was like that was clearly a blindside hit .... so I guess we see different things.

TBURGESS

There was head contact. That was the whole penalty. I didn't like it, but it was the right call.
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Quote from: TBURGESS on August 19, 2023, 02:41:51 PM
There was head contact. That was the whole penalty. I didn't like it, but it was the right call.

Don't think so. Holm ran through the receivers out stretched arm making a play on the ball. That dropped the receivers head downwards. Neither late or head shot. Even the announcers made that analysis after watching the replay.
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Jesse

Quote from: TBURGESS on August 19, 2023, 02:41:51 PM
There was head contact. That was the whole penalty. I didn't like it, but it was the right call.

The replay clearly showed there wasn't. Holm didn't even make contact. The receivers left shoulder collided with Holm's left shoulder.
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bunker

Quote from: Jesse on August 19, 2023, 02:57:30 PM
The replay clearly showed there wasn't. Holm didn't even make contact. The receivers left shoulder collided with Holm's left shoulder.
What your saying about the replay is clear to anyone other than a troll or someone with an anti-bomber bias.

dd

#10
I think the call was for a hit on a defenceless player.  Begelton was not in a position to defend himself and there was contact hence the call.

What gets me is they call this but they don?t call the Collaros hit. Totally inconsistent.

The more controversial call was the following play where #80 did not maintain control of the ball upon contact with the ground and got up hotdogging and celebrating the catch that wasn?t a catch. That was brutal officiating

TBURGESS

Quote from: Jesse on August 19, 2023, 02:57:30 PM
The replay clearly showed there wasn't. Holm didn't even make contact. The receivers left shoulder collided with Holm's left shoulder.
Watch the replay again. Not the one from the end zone camera, which doesn't show it. Holm's shoulder contacted the receiver helmet/chin.

BTW: I'm not anti Bomber. I'm pro getting the call right.
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Jesse

Quote from: TBURGESS on August 19, 2023, 04:43:45 PM
Watch the replay again. Not the one from the end zone camera, which doesn't show it. Holm's shoulder contacted the receiver helmet/chin.

BTW: I'm not anti Bomber. I'm pro getting the call right.

I saw the one that showed a clear gap between both player's helmets throughout the whole contact.

It was shoulder on shoulder.
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TBURGESS

Quote from: Jesse on August 19, 2023, 05:05:08 PM
I saw the one that showed a clear gap between both player's helmets throughout the whole contact.

It was shoulder on shoulder.
It was shoulder to helmet, not helmet to helmet.
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Horseman

FWIW, I did not see any contact with the Cal receivers head at all, should have been a non call. Holmes let up in my opinion, can you imagine if the Cal receiver caught that, Holmes would have lit him up, they probably would have had to cart him off the field.