Kramdi

[TecnoGenius]

I mostly consider it part of the secondary. When we ttalk about replacements or options at the position, we?re not bringing up guys like  Bighill, we?re talking about Parker or Holm.

Ya, I did another rewatch of the BC game to focus on Kramdi.  He was communicating with and working in tandem with the DBs a ton more than Biggie.  Biggie was mostly coordinating with Wilson.  So SAM seems to work more with the DB corps than the LB corps, and it makes sense as much of the time he's defending against the 5th receiver.

[pjrocksmb]

Ya, I did another rewatch of the BC game to focus on Kramdi.  He was communicating with and working in tandem with the DBs a ton more than Biggie.  Biggie was mostly coordinating with Wilson.  So SAM seems to work more with the DB corps than the LB corps, and it makes sense as much of the time he's defending against the 5th receiver.

Interesting

[TecnoGenius]

Interesting

Ya, it basically proves all the "vet" guys here on the forum who've always told me SAM is a DB.  Can anyone who goes to practices tell me if the SAM mostly works with the DB corps?

Then that would leave just 2 LBers.  So who do they work with, or do they have their own little 2-man unit??  One would think because they play both DL and DB at times they'd work with both?

[Blue In BC]

Another game and Kramdi seemed invisible. Again, I say that in a positive way. He must be doing something right. When he was visible he seemed to be moving quickly and decisively. On TV you can't see everybody on every play etc etc. He'll improve each game he starts.

[LXTSN]

Another game and Kramdi seemed invisible. Again, I say that in a positive way. He must be doing something right. When he was visible he seemed to be moving quickly and decisively. On TV you can't see everybody on every play etc etc. He'll improve each game he starts.

Agreed. I think he will be a long term part of the defence.
Seems like a nice place to slot in a Canadian

[TecnoGenius]

Agreed. I think he will be a long term part of the defence.
Seems like a nice place to slot in a Canadian

Some say SAM is the hardest position to play on the D.  It's virtually unheard of to slot a NAT in at SAM.  Kramdi has done pretty well "for a NAT", but it's a bit disturbing we can't find better?  Darby seems to be falling out of favor, but there's still a chance he's got a nagging nick that's keeping him dressed but not played.  That would explain a lot of things.

[DM83]

Kramdi is a non import isnt he? He isn?t a playmaker. He?s around the ball only after the play is over.  While in my day, it was usually passive DBs that were called pile jumpers.  Never involved in the tackle, but arriving after the action is over and jumping over the resultant pile.

The Bombers could use a real playmaking LB to round out this defense. 

Just a comment/ idea,??I am not sure regarding the first play, but I think Kramdi may have been the player responsible for that backside A OR B gap. (He was. Diving and swung and arm if I remember correctly.) It may not have been his responsibility, as the end or tackle may have vacated their gap in pursuit too quickly, without first stepping through, and then pursuing.

As the backside linebacker, we coached our linebackers to play?slow.? On motion away. However, ?.not that slow, I mean you still have to be responsible for that backside ?B? gap.

Different defenses may play that differently, but for sure, someone didn?t execute properly. 
It was a great call by Edmonton!

[Blue In BC]

Kramdi is a non import isnt he? He isn?t a playmaker. He?s around the ball only after the play is over.  While in my day, it was usually passive DBs that were called pile jumpers.  Never involved in the tackle, but arriving after the action is over and jumping over the resultant pile.

The Bombers could use a real playmaking LB to round out this defense. 

Just a comment/ idea,??I am not sure regarding the first play, but I think Kramdi may have been the player responsible for that backside A OR B gap. (He was. Diving and swung and arm if I remember correctly.) It may not have been his responsibility, as the end or tackle may have vacated their gap in pursuit too quickly, without first stepping through, and then pursuing.

As the backside linebacker, we coached our linebackers to play?slow.? On motion away. However, ?.not that slow, I mean you still have to be responsible for that backside ?B? gap.

Different defenses may play that differently, but for sure, someone didn?t execute properly. 
It was a great call by Edmonton!

Yes he's a non import. You might be right about not being a play maker. It's essentially why I started the string to see what others felt. The jury is still out IMO. He doesn't seem to be beaten or targeted but I need to see him " make plays" as you mentioned.

Consider the output we've had from other Bomber SAM's in the past.

I also wondered whether Kramdi might have been the player that missed his assignment on play # 1 for the long TD. That said, the DT's and Bighill didn't exactly stop the RB either. So it may have been several players that weren't ready at the start of the game.

We'll have to continue watching his play for more games. I'm on the fence whether he should continue starting.

The other issue is what's the deal with Darby? Still no reps even as a back up and not a value as an extra import at the moment.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Yes he's a non import. You might be right about not being a play maker. It's essentially why I started the string to see what others felt. The jury is still out IMO. He doesn't seem to be beaten or targeted but I need to see him " make plays" as you mentioned.

Consider the output we've had from other Bomber SAM's in the past.

I also wondered whether Kramdi might have been the player that missed his assignment on play # 1 for the long TD. That said, the DT's and Bighill didn't exactly stop the RB either. So it may have been several players that weren't ready at the start of the game.

We'll have to continue watching his play for more games. I'm on the fence whether he should continue starting.

The other issue is what's the deal with Darby? Still no reps even as a back up and not a value as an extra import at the moment.

As O'Shea said in his post-game presser a whole host of breakdowns occured on that long run, so if Kramdi missed his assignment he wasn't the only one.  Small problem with playing a Natl. at SAM is finding another Natl. to backup him up, not essential, but it's hard to find one needle in a haystack, never mind finding two.  I still think Exume could play that position if given the chance.  Ratio wise making the SAM position Natl. might be easier than finding a Natl. DE who can actually contribute.

If Kramdi has legitimately beaten out Darby for the job, there isn't much reason to keep him around as ADS is the next man up in the secondary, with Parker and Lawrence riding the IR until an opportunity presents itself.  Seems to me Walters has a few tradeable pieces in the secondary he could consider moving before the trade deadline.

Glad to see Nick Taylor doing well for the Stamps, remarkable athlete to come back one more time, but the Bombers made the right decision moving on due to his age.

[KINGCHARLES]

i don't know what it is but Kramdi and Holm to me seem like they give up too much space between their assignments. They are both fast to the ball but it would be nicer to see them  tighter to their assignments.
I'm not an expert here but I fully trust whatever O'Shea and company see in their players. The Canadian Mafia have a pretty amazing track record.
Furthermore it would be nice to see Lawrence and Parker into the active lineup but ratio wise that may not happen
Maybe Lawrence in place of Darby? Lawrence is a tiny bit bigger, more physical and has a knack for getting pass knockdowns. Then maybe Lawrence starts at SAM over Kramdi?

[Blue In BC]

i don't know what it is but Kramdi and Holm to me seem like they give up too much space between their assignments. They are both fast to the ball but it would be nicer to see them  tighter to their assignments.
I'm not an expert here but I fully trust whatever O'Shea and company see in their players. The Canadian Mafia have a pretty amazing track record.
Furthermore it would be nice to see Lawrence and Parker into the active lineup but ratio wise that may not happen
Maybe Lawrence in place of Darby? Lawrence is a tiny bit bigger, more physical and has a knack for getting pass knockdowns. Then maybe Lawrence starts at SAM over Kramdi?

I wonder if Lawrence might be in line for a shot at SAM as well. Otherwise, where does he fit unless we have injuries in the secondary. Already have Parker waiting to get on the AR too.

[pjrocksmb]

i don't know what it is but Kramdi and Holm to me seem like they give up too much space between their assignments. They are both fast to the ball but it would be nicer to see them  tighter to their assignments.
I'm not an expert here but I fully trust whatever O'Shea and company see in their players. The Canadian Mafia have a pretty amazing track record.
Furthermore it would be nice to see Lawrence and Parker into the active lineup but ratio wise that may not happen
Maybe Lawrence in place of Darby? Lawrence is a tiny bit bigger, more physical and has a knack for getting pass knockdowns. Then maybe Lawrence starts at SAM over Kramdi?

I am thoroughly impressed with Holm and pleasantly surprised with Kramdi.  Both likely be here a long time if we play put cards right.

[CrazyCanuck89]

Kramdi was always predicted to be a SLB or CB coming out of the the draft.  His speed, cover ability and aggressiveness is what he was projected as a SLB.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Kramdi was always predicted to be a SLB or CB coming out of the the draft.  His speed, cover ability and aggressiveness is what he was projected as a SLB.

Kramdi started a few games at SAM late last year, so his ascension isn't all that surprising.

[pjrocksmb]

Kramdi started a few games at SAM late last year, so his ascension isn't all that surprising.

What's weird is the criticism of his play by some.  Agree he has seasoned well.