Hamilton vs Edmonton GDT

Started by The Zipp, July 13, 2023, 11:37:13 PM

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Lincoln Locomotive

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 14, 2023, 04:22:45 AM
Of course Leggs has to go perfect on FG and PAT after leaving WPG... in comparison Castillo has missed 1 PAT...

just sayin'

Ive always believed that Winnipeg fans were extra hard on kickers....remember Liram who went on to become a star kicker?    Legghio may just do the same and sometimes a change of scenery is just what a player needs.    Thing is he does all 3 duties and not many kickers these days can plus he's Canadian!    Bomber fans would have been merciless had he stayed and missed anything.    Remembering Troy "wide left" Westwood missed 3 or 4 FGs in the 2001 GC against Calgary.....we didn't replace him after that and he retired a Bomber.

Winnipeg has some of the best fans but they are tough on aspiring kickers......and let's not forget he replaced one of the greatest kickers in Bomber history....which is a tough act to follow.   Just sayin'
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Waffler

Why would Lapo want this job? I think this job will have to be someone desperate to be HC, someone new. Their entire coaching staff looks weak to me. Even Mike Kelly had the sense to hire good people such as Bob Dyce, Rick Campbell,  Mark Nelson and Richard Harris.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Waffler on July 14, 2023, 03:17:10 PM
Why would Lapo want this job? I think this job will have to be someone desperate to be HC, someone new. Their entire coaching staff looks weak to me. Even Mike Kelly had the sense to hire good people such as Bob Dyce, Rick Campbell,  Mark Nelson and Richard Harris.

It pays better than being on the TSN panel. It's also an opportunity to be successful as a HC.
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 14, 2023, 03:24:14 PM
It pays better than being on the TSN panel. It's also an opportunity to be successful as a HC.

If Jones gets canned, LaPolice would have to be deranged to go there and try to right that ship to further his HC aspirations.

That organization is in shambles.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 14, 2023, 03:25:56 PM
If Jones gets canned, LaPolice would have to be deranged to go there and try to right that ship to further his HC aspirations.

That organization is in shambles.

There are only 9 CFL teams. Somebody will accept and he'd probably be someone previous fired elsewhere. Khari Jones might be another candidate as well.
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M.O.A.B.

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 14, 2023, 03:25:56 PM
If Jones gets canned, LaPolice would have to be deranged to go there and try to right that ship to further his HC aspirations.

That organization is in shambles.

If Jones get canned, Geroy will possibly take over. I think he has a good shot of luring Buck to be the next HC and possibly have Dru Brown in tow.

Waffler

What usually happens in a mid season canning is someone on staff gets promoted. I see no candidate there. Going there now is suicide. Better to wait until the offseason when you can build the staff and team you want.
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theaardvark

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 14, 2023, 03:25:56 PM
If Jones gets canned, LaPolice would have to be deranged to go there and try to right that ship to further his HC aspirations.

That organization is in shambles.

Lapo has burned most of his HC potential.  Going into EDM to take over what is a pretty talented team, and put them back on the rails and end the home losing street would revitalize his HC potential.  And if he comes in and can't right the ship, and they move on after the year, I don't think his current almost non-existent HC opportunities are going to be hurt.

Anyone who takes over from Jones will have an immediate dead cat bounce... and end the home losing streak for sure.

Jones was embarrassing last night.  They showed him losing it at his D when a Ham player got open in the flat, and dropped the ball.  That's not coaching...

Win/win really.

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Blue In BC

Coaches are hired by bad teams that fire their current staff. We all know a team can go from last to 1st in an off season. The Elks have some talent although we don't know who they might lose in free agency going in 2024. Just like every team there is a re-build to some degree every year.

It all starts with having a good starting QB and the Elks have not solidified that position.
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theaardvark

Quote from: M.O.A.B. on July 14, 2023, 03:35:32 PM
If Jones get canned, Geroy will possibly take over. I think he has a good shot of luring Buck to be the next HC and possibly have Dru Brown in tow.

Geroy should take over GM duties and let Jones concentrate on field.  

McAdoo could take over as HC if needed... not the best option, but the affordable one.
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: theaardvark on July 14, 2023, 03:37:53 PM
Lapo has burned most of his HC potential.  Going into EDM to take over what is a pretty talented team, and put them back on the rails and end the home losing street would revitalize his HC potential.  And if he comes in and can't right the ship, and they move on after the year, I don't think his current almost non-existent HC opportunities are going to be hurt.

Anyone who takes over from Jones will have an immediate dead cat bounce... and end the home losing streak for sure.

Jones was embarrassing last night.  They showed him losing it at his D when a Ham player got open in the flat, and dropped the ball.  That's not coaching...

Win/win really.

Yeah, it's almost as if he's not HC material.

There is absolutely no guarantee the team bounces back if Jones is canned, dead cat or otherwise.

In the event Jones get the axe, I'd fully expect a promotion in-house.

And I agree: Chris Jones is a disgrace.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: TBURGESS on July 14, 2023, 02:52:24 PM
Edmonton was in the game until their idiot QB threw with his left hand while getting tackled for a pick 6. The whole team fell apart after that.

Remember the '21 WDF (I think) where our guys fumbled and INT'd their way to losing the ball in scoring position like 3-4 times before they got their mojo back?  That is what EDM needs to do after that pick-6.  But instead they disintegrate.  Why can't they remember the WPG win and realize they can do it too?  Everyone at home is screaming "just forget about it and keep playing normal ball, you're not down by much!", but instead the team just turns to jello.

I think the situation there is toxic and now all mental.  Which means it can't be overcome with something drastic.  This is the Lapo in OTT situation redux (but worse), and the only fix is to fire the HC and/or bring in a brand new star QB (but no one is left).  Remember the week Lapo was fired?  The next HC stepped in and won the very next game, I think, and that team had zero talent, unlike current EDM!!

Remember when Kahari was fired in MTL and I think Mozzarella won the very next game (or the one after?).

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GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: Lincoln Locomotive on July 14, 2023, 03:14:45 PM
Ive always believed that Winnipeg fans were extra hard on kickers....remember Liram who went on to become a star kicker?    Legghio may just do the same and sometimes a change of scenery is just what a player needs.    Thing is he does all 3 duties and not many kickers these days can plus he's Canadian!    Bomber fans would have been merciless had he stayed and missed anything.    Remembering Troy "wide left" Westwood missed 3 or 4 FGs in the 2001 GC against Calgary.....we didn't replace him after that and he retired a Bomber.

Winnipeg has some of the best fans but they are tough on aspiring kickers......and let's not forget he replaced one of the greatest kickers in Bomber history....which is a tough act to follow.   Just sayin'
I Disagree any other fan base on the league, the ones who actually care, are just as hard on kickers as Blue Bombers fans. I believe that comment is purely speculative compared to other league fan bases.
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The Zipp

Doesn't sound like CJ is going anywhere this season:

Edmonton Elks? president Victor Cui is openly contemplating personnel changes in an attempt to pull his organization out of a historic tailspin, but the man in charge of football operations does not appear to be on the chopping block.

Of course a few more brutal losses and that can change. 

dd

God himself couldn?t turn the elks around at this point. Staying with Jones continues this mess, canning Jones continues this mess. This league always has been and always will be a Qb driven league.  It?s very simple-teams with good QBs do well, teams with bad ones don?t. Edmonton?s Qbs are horrible. Same why Calgary, Hamilton and Ottawa struggle and will continue to until they address the number 1 issues.

If I was GM of any of these struggling teams, I trade for Dane Evans, who is clearly better than anything Edmonton is suiting up. Why they haven?t done this sooner is what I?d be asking Jones on his exit interview