Winnipeg @ Ottawa

[Blue In BC]

McGhee???  No McGhee on the roster.  I think McCrae will do well on kickoffs but punts may be a different matter, they might have to go for ball security over return ability until Grant returns.

He's a DB on our PR at the moment, same as Amare Jones a receiver.

[Blue In BC]

McCrae will be the returner, and as such, should concentrate on those duties. 

If used on O, he should come in for Olivera when we bring in an extra Olineman... (ratio)

He gives us more versatility on O as an RB than as a WR.

Agudosi adds a length factor to the Rec corps, and that will be beneficial.  Hopefully he has a big game.

Did you miss his 68 yard TD last week?

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

He's a DB on our PR at the moment, same as Amare Jones a receiver.

Where did these two come from?  Never noticed either in pre-season.

[Blue In BC]

Where did these two come from?  Never noticed either in pre-season.

Late adds in TC.  I suppose they had some reps in pre-season but I don't remember them specifically. Because our next two games are against teams struggling, it might be a good time to take a look at a newbie. Not sure if either has any return history but a couple of our starting DB's do.

I don't know if Agudosi was actually injured last week but he's been less effective than I would have hoped. I guess it depends on what these two have shown in practice that warrants taking a look in an actual game. If they aren't showing " something " then why aren't we replacing them?

[GOLDMEMBER]

Late adds in TC.  I suppose they had some reps in pre-season but I don't remember them specifically. Because our next two games are against teams struggling, it might be a good time to take a look at a newbie. Not sure if either has any return history but a couple of our starting DB's do.

I don't know if Agudosi was actually injured last week but he's been less effective than I would have hoped. I guess it depends on what these two have shown in practice that warrants taking a look in an actual game. If they aren't showing " something " then why aren't we replacing them?

Same here. Maybe those past nicks are taking their tole. Confounding really.

[TecnoGenius]

Certainly possible considering how the last year has gone for him. That's a tough injury for any QB but especially one who relies on his mobility to make plays.

Zach's practice interview on BB.com (yesterday?): he said he's tight with Masoli, said something about playing together for 5 years(?), said he talked with Masoli, really made it sound like Masoli would not be giving up.

Ya, Redblacks could move on, but that doesn't stop Masoli from rehabbing and coming back in FA next season.  Look at the CFL QB situation right now.  How many teams are starting iffy or bad QBs?  3?  How many are starting geriatrics?  3 (including us)?  The CFL QB market will be a seller's market for at minimum a couple/few years.

A team could sign Masoli on a mostly-performance basis.  Little up front, and big money for games-played >50% snaps.  365 days from now I could see a healthy Masoli easily being snapped up by a desperate team.

The question is: will he just snap the other achilles or ACL or whatever in his next "first" game.

[dd]

He?s done. He?s had 2 very serious non contact injuries. His body is saying it?s time. Also, I can?t imagine any team bringing him in as their #1 given his recent injury history. They?d be in the same boat Ottawa is in now, got 13 more games to play and not a legitimate hope of being competitive offensively. If I was Ottawa righ now, I?d trade for Dane Evans and move forward with this season vs flutter and flounder through ayour remaining 13 games

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Zach's practice interview on BB.com (yesterday?): he said he's tight with Masoli, said something about playing together for 5 years(?), said he talked with Masoli, really made it sound like Masoli would not be giving up.

Ya, Redblacks could move on, but that doesn't stop Masoli from rehabbing and coming back in FA next season.  Look at the CFL QB situation right now.  How many teams are starting iffy or bad QBs?  3?  How many are starting geriatrics?  3 (including us)?  The CFL QB market will be a seller's market for at minimum a couple/few years.

A team could sign Masoli on a mostly-performance basis.  Little up front, and big money for games-played >50% snaps.  365 days from now I could see a healthy Masoli easily being snapped up by a desperate team.

The question is: will he just snap the other achilles or ACL or whatever in his next "first" game.

If Masoli wants to continue his career after another re-hab I think he'll be starting back at the bottom of the salary ladder, following in the steps of Dane Evans and Trevor Harris who has redeemed his career and has already risen back up the salary ladder.  I don't know how long Ottawa is required to fund his re-hab, but they should plan to move on from him asap.

[TecnoGenius]

Also, I can?t imagine any team bringing him in as their #1 given his recent injury history. They?d be in the same boat Ottawa is in now, got 13 more games to play and not a legitimate hope of being competitive offensively.

Let's say it's next year right now.  Let's say the CFL QB situation is the same as right now (dearth of talent).

All of EDM, CGY, HAM, OTT are probably eyeing available, proven QB talent.  They all only have QBs that are dubious at best (yes, that includes Maier and BLM).  Even MTL and TOR and BC are taking risks expecting more from their guys than has been proven to date (VAJ was never a legit starter choice prior to 2023, Kelly is completely raw, Cody will probably revert to 2022 form).  It's a complete poop show for QBs in the CFL right now.

So if a healthy-but-coming-off-achilles-injury Masoli showed up tomorrow at one of those teams, they don't sign and start him??  Like I said, put no money up front (or ELC-like money), and tack on massive game performance incentives.  What does EDM HAM OTT have to lose?

Think back to the number of quality QBs we had in the league in, say, 2016!  Wow, you can't even remotely compare the massive array of talent compared to the big dice-tossers we have now.  I'd say the only Ray/Burris/Reilly/Nichols/Durant/Lulay/BLM level QBs we have now are Zach, Trevor, and maybe D.Evans.  Masoli, if healthy, could be added to that list.  The rest may prove to have talent (i.e. Kelly, VAJ, Corney, Cody), but odds say at best 1 or 2 are legit starters that can get you far in the post-season.  And at best the CFL discovers 0 or 1 really good QBs every year.

It would be really great if Rourke and MBT return to the league.  And things are really going to get ugly when Zach, Trevor and Masoli retire.

[blue_gold_84]

Zach's practice interview on BB.com (yesterday?): he said he's tight with Masoli, said something about playing together for 5 years(?), said he talked with Masoli, really made it sound like Masoli would not be giving up.

And that's admirable on Masoli's part, to be sure. He's a fierce competitor and plays with a lot heart.

However, none of that accounts for much when factors like age and compounding injuries enter equation.

[Blue In BC]

And that's admirable on Masoli's part, to be sure. He's a fierce competitor and plays with a lot heart.

However, none of that accounts for much when factors like age and compounding injuries enter equation.

During free agency teams make choices. When you choose one high priced player then you may not get a 2nd player you wanted. I don't know we could have retained Sayles in any case, however we choose to spend money elsewhere.

Hindsight is always perfect. Ottawa may not have had other choices that were better at the QB position. The same might be true in 2023 regardless of that status of Masoli. Chances are he would miss the 1st 3rd of the season. If he's under contract for 2023, that may force a decision of some sort.

[dd]

And that's admirable on Masoli's part, to be sure. He's a fierce competitor and plays with a lot heart.

However, none of that accounts for much when factors like age and compounding injuries enter equation.

Exactly. Teams won?t waste their time on him. It would be one thing if he was 25, but at 35 the sun has set

[M.O.A.B.]

Only one change - Agudosi for Grant (on 6-game). Oh and the return of Dru in the lineup.

[blue_gold_84]

One offensive play and now Grant's on the six-game. Ugh.

[Pigskin]

Yes, we have lost a weapon in Grant.