Attendance

Started by Sec223, July 05, 2023, 01:16:53 PM

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Sec223

I know Winnipeg is a walk up city but tons of tickets for most games. Banjo Bowl still has some available.

peg_city

Banjo Bowl usually doesn't sell out until week of the game (last year was an exception). There only appears to be 1000-2000 tickets left (last I looked).

Stretch

Attendance thread has shown up early this year.

;)
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Jesse

We're doing pretty good.

I think there's just a lack of buzz around some of these games because most teams are so bad.
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pjrocksmb

Last game was a weak crowd. 

bluengold204

Quote from: pjrocksmb on July 06, 2023, 03:34:47 AM
Last game was a weak crowd. 

Thursday night games always are

gordo

Quote from: Jesse on July 05, 2023, 03:25:40 PM
We're doing pretty good.

I think there's just a lack of buzz around some of these games because most teams are so bad.

Agree with this.  Hard to get excited or hype crappy opponents. 
But the lose to BC should help with attendance for the redemption match with them on Aug 3rd.

pjrocksmb

Quote from: bluengold204 on July 06, 2023, 01:54:02 PM
Thursday night games always are
I don't believe you can make the statement without backing it up with facts (I however have no facts as well LOL).  I am interested in anyone has information on that or wants to chime in.  The weekend games are subject to reduced attendance from folks going to the cabin,camping, etc.

I find sometimes weekend games have good announced attendance but a little thin in reality.   

I don't have a strong preference for which days game are on, rather would like it based on attendance figures and TV numbers.

Folk fest is on so that might hurt us a bit tomorrow.

blue_or_die

Quote from: pjrocksmb on July 06, 2023, 06:56:56 PM
I don't believe you can make the statement without backing it up with facts (I however have no facts as well LOL).  I am interested in anyone has information on that or wants to chime in.  The weekend games are subject to reduced attendance from folks going to the cabin,camping, etc.

I find sometimes weekend games have good announced attendance but a little thin in reality.   

I don't have a strong preference for which days game are on, rather would like it based on attendance figures and TV numbers.

Folk fest is on so that might hurt us a bit tomorrow.

That could be because many of the cottagers also have STHs (falls into the same demographic). So for a weekend game, ticket sales look great because you have your STH base + a large casual crowd who are going as something to do on the weekend, but a chunk of the STHers are physically missing from their seats because they choose to be at the lake. Whereas the casual/walk up crowds are lesser on Thursdays because of work the next day and the STH cottagers make it a priority because it's ideal for them.

I also say all this without providing facts lmao
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peg_city

Anyone else annoyed by the lack of Saturday games in the summer?

gordo

We are home to over 100,000 lakes including Lake Winnipeg, Lake Manitoba and Lake Winnipegosis and surface water covers approximately 16 percent of the province. Not to mention LOW. Can't compete with this.

EDIT: Was responding to the question of why no Saturday games.

bluengold204

Quote from: peg_city on July 06, 2023, 09:24:36 PM
Anyone else annoyed by the lack of Saturday games in the summer?

We haven?t had Saturday home games during the summer for a long time.  I too would like them

GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: peg_city on July 06, 2023, 09:24:36 PM
Anyone else annoyed by the lack of Saturday games in the summer?
me!
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GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: gordo on July 06, 2023, 10:31:01 PM
We are home to over 100,000 lakes including Lake Winnipeg, Lake Manitoba and Lake Winnipegosis and surface water covers approximately 16 percent of the province. Not to mention LOW. Can't compete with this.

EDIT: Was responding to the question of why no Saturday games.
Yes, Yes they can that excuse is overrated. Are you a Bomber fan or a cabin lifer. Make your mind up.
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gordo

Not an excuse. It?s a fact. Cottagers don?t go to Saturday games.
And a wise business decision not to schedule Saturday games in the summer.

I?m a Bomber for Life and it doesn?t bother me.


Jesse

As long as we get some Fridays mixed in. I can't stand when it's all Thursday games.
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bluengold204

Quote from: Jesse on July 07, 2023, 12:04:47 PM
As long as we get some Fridays mixed in. I can't stand when it's all Thursday games.

Enjoy tonight, its all thursdays for the rest of the summer here on out lol

GOLDMEMBER

Speaking of attendance what are the numbers like for tonight? Curious for a Friday game. OMG the cottage people will stay away. :o lol
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LXTSN

Quote from: Jesse on July 07, 2023, 12:04:47 PM
As long as we get some Fridays mixed in. I can't stand when it's all Thursday games.
I'm glad you mentioned this because I'm 100% in agreement with you!
We live 45+minutes out of town and on night games that start at 7:30pm, we usually get home only around 12pm. Not the greatest if you start work early the next day.
Fridays and Saturday afternoons are the games I look forward to the most.

Jesse

Quote from: bluengold204 on July 07, 2023, 12:15:16 PM
Enjoy tonight, its all thursdays for the rest of the summer here on out lol

>:(
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The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 07, 2023, 12:28:47 PM
Speaking of attendance what are the numbers like for tonight? Curious for a Friday game. OMG the cottage people will stay away. :o lol

I would bet money the "cottage people" don't have a huge impact on attendance anymore, and if anyone were to review the attendance numbers the last couple of seasons they would probably find Friday games have higher numbers than Thursday games. Seems to me a lot of 20 somethings show up to the Friday games to party, but not as many on Thursday nights.
Bombers seem to have a lot of fans of all ages attending games, unlike the Jets where it's mostly old people.

Pigskin

Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on July 07, 2023, 05:38:17 PM
I would bet money the "cottage people" don't have a huge impact on attendance anymore, and if anyone were to review the attendance numbers the last couple of seasons they would probably find Friday games have higher numbers than Thursday games. Seems to me a lot of 20 somethings show up to the Friday games to party, but not as many on Thursday nights.
Bombers seem to have a lot of fans of all ages attending games, unlike the Jets where it's mostly old people.

I am a cottage person, and it really doesn't matter to me. However I am also retired, so every weekend is a long weekend. At the end of the day there is only 9 home games, we just adjust our schedule a little each home game.
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theaardvark

Quote from: Jesse on July 07, 2023, 12:04:47 PM
As long as we get some Fridays mixed in. I can't stand when it's all Thursday games.

Thursdays are great.  Just take Friday off, (use up some of those vacation days) go to the cottage Friday after noon, and you've got a long weekend after every home game...
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Jesse

Quote from: theaardvark on July 07, 2023, 05:58:00 PM
Thursdays are great.  Just take Friday off, (use up some of those vacation days) go to the cottage Friday after noon, and you've got a long weekend after every home game...

I don't like Thursdays because it's harder to get childcare.

But whether it's kids, or work, or school, it creates more challenges. Which is fine once in a while, but is difficult every week. And some don't really have the privilege to do it at all, so attendance will suffer for it.
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Quote from: bluengold204 on July 07, 2023, 12:15:16 PM
Enjoy tonight, its all thursdays for the rest of the summer here on out lol
I will! Post game drinks are a guarantee. Kingshead or the Osborne Tapp House. Just need a good band.

Thursday just Suck most of the time for me.
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GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on July 07, 2023, 05:38:17 PM
I would bet money the "cottage people" don't have a huge impact on attendance anymore, and if anyone were to review the attendance numbers the last couple of seasons they would probably find Friday games have higher numbers than Thursday games. Seems to me a lot of 20 somethings show up to the Friday games to party, but not as many on Thursday nights.
Bombers seem to have a lot of fans of all ages attending games, unlike the Jets where it's mostly old people.
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blue_or_die

Note that Fridays are still workable for people who go to the lake most weekends. It's ideal to go Friday right after work so you have the whole weekend, but it's not the end of the world to go to the game Friday and then go first thing saturday out.

I don't mind 1-2 Thursdays a year but I'm annoyed with the four that we have this year. Agree that Fridays are the best in the summer whether you're a lake person or not. There's a very special vibe of wearing shorts and sunglasses, drinking a cold beer in the hot sun at IGF and have sunlight until 10 pm to enjoy the view  8). Fall games are fun too but in a very different way. Nothing beats Bomber ball in the summer on a Friday night.
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peg_city

I think it was 2018 when almost the entire schedule was Friday and Saturday games.

gobombersgo

From the Bombers:

We've sold over 30,000 tickets for tonight's game!

Tickets are still available !! Strap on those cowboy boots and come be a part of country night, ya'll.

GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: gobombersgo on July 07, 2023, 10:16:19 PM
From the Bombers:

We've sold over 30,000 tickets for tonight's game!

Tickets are still available !! Strap on those cowboy boots and come be a part of country night, ya'll.
Wow kinda in a way I am surprised but not really. ;) :D
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TecnoGenius

Anyone catch the official number?  Either we were getting chow when they said, or they just didn't say.  Can believe >30k, my normally dead section was pretty busy.  Lots of families.  Everyone seemed to have a good time in the 2nd half.

I guess these families wait until school is out, then they all show up.
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pjrocksmb

Nice crowd.  Cottage / camping / beach crowd is a big factor.  I'm a cottager full time and I don't really care which day, just want max attendance and TV numbers.

KINGCHARLES

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 08, 2023, 06:24:05 AM
Anyone catch the official number?  Either we were getting chow when they said, or they just didn't say.  Can believe >30k, my normally dead section was pretty busy.  Lots of families.  Everyone seemed to have a good time in the 2nd half.

I guess these families wait until school is out, then they all show up.

think it was announced as 30, 153
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Stretch

Quote from: KINGCHARLES on July 08, 2023, 01:56:27 PM
think it was announced as 30, 153

Don't recall it being announced at the game, but saw a team tweet that said 30,561.
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drahgon

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 08, 2023, 06:24:05 AM
*snip*

I guess these families wait until school is out, then they all show up.


Sounds logical.

GOLDMEMBER

The Cottage excuse was thrown in the trash based on yesterdays crowd. Nuff said.
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peg_city

If I were in charge, every Bomber game would be a Friday or Saturday and every weekend would be a long weekend.

Bluehawk

In my 51st year of season tickets, living over an hour away from the city.
I can understand and accept a couple of Thursday night games but as mentioned here already, Friday night football rocks.
There is a very large rural fan base and I trust after last night's game turnout (not the first) Wade and company look
at maybe doing 4 and 2 for Friday vs Sat for next year, not the 2 and 4 we had this year for June, July and August.
Its a late night getting home for Friday morning work and I am sure for those even further away than myself, a weekday game night
is avoided.

Hawk
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pjrocksmb

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 08, 2023, 04:29:48 PM
The Cottage excuse was thrown in the trash based on yesterdays crowd. Nuff said.
It's not an accuse, it's a fact.  Many people go to cabins, beaches and camping.  Yesterday proves that for this Friday many showed up anyway.  Doesn't throw anything in the trash.  Best to have a balanced discussion here on the topic.  Lots of factors that play into scheduling, tv deals, attendance, etc.  We all have different preferences for which day of the week for home games.  We also all want the same thing likely, maximize revenue for the league to ensure long term viability of all the CFL great fanchises.  I was so happy to see that many, it was loud and I was proud.

Big Daddy

Quote from: pjrocksmb on July 08, 2023, 06:56:38 PM
It's not an accuse, it's a fact.  Many people go to cabins, beaches and camping.  Yesterday proves that for this Friday many showed up anyway.  Doesn't throw anything in the trash.  Best to have a balanced discussion here on the topic.  Lots of factors that play into scheduling, tv deals, attendance, etc.  We all have different preferences for which day of the week for home games.  We also all want the same thing likely, maximize revenue for the league to ensure long term viability of all the CFL great fanchises.  I was so happy to see that many, it was loud and I was proud.

Well said PJ.  Not a cottager myself, but agree we want what is best for the team and league.  Hopefully more Friday games as that seems to be a bit of a compromise for cottagers (better than Saturday in the middle of the weekend), and helps the rural fans not have to go in Friday morning paying for it.

pjrocksmb

Quote from: Big Daddy on July 09, 2023, 02:25:13 AM
Well said PJ.  Not a cottager myself, but agree we want what is best for the team and league.  Hopefully more Friday games as that seems to be a bit of a compromise for cottagers (better than Saturday in the middle of the weekend), and helps the rural fans not have to go in Friday morning paying for it.
Props man, nice to see some agreement here

Jesse

Quote from: pjrocksmb on July 08, 2023, 06:56:38 PM
It's not an accuse, it's a fact.  Many people go to cabins, beaches and camping.  Yesterday proves that for this Friday many showed up anyway.  Doesn't throw anything in the trash.  Best to have a balanced discussion here on the topic.  Lots of factors that play into scheduling, tv deals, attendance, etc.  We all have different preferences for which day of the week for home games.  We also all want the same thing likely, maximize revenue for the league to ensure long term viability of all the CFL great fanchises.  I was so happy to see that many, it was loud and I was proud.

Yes it is a fact that people go away on weekends.

It's also a fact that attendance suffers on Thursdays.

Some people may have cabins that affects weekend games. But everyone has to deal with work/school/childcare/etc that comes with Thursday games.
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Sir Blue and Gold

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The Bombers understand their fans. Any one game isn't indicative of anything and isn't really the major influence. Season ticket holders are the main consideration concerning the home game schedule.

They know if they were to move every game to Friday or Saturday there would be people who would cancel immediately. They also know not everyone likes the Thursday games as much.

It's a balance. The idea is to make sure that there are enough free weekends (Thursday games) for cottage season ticket holders who either won't mind missing a game or two or will stay in the city another day to attend the game here or there. On the other hand, it's not possible for the league to have them play every Thursday in the summer and they know it's not the preferred date of a lot of people who don't get out of town regularly in the summer.

Keep things balanced and neither group is excluded to the point of cancelling their season's tickets.

blue_or_die

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 08, 2023, 04:29:48 PM
The Cottage excuse was thrown in the trash based on yesterdays crowd. Nuff said.

I would challenge that if we had games on Saturdays during the summer, the numbers would look a lot like Thursdays.

Fridays are perfect because you don?t have to base your entire weekend around the Bomber game. In summer, there are plenty of other things to do besides just the cabin too. A beach day for example becomes way less easy if you have to get to a game, especially if you have kiddos
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GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: blue_or_die on July 09, 2023, 03:07:01 PM
I would challenge that if we had games on Saturdays during the summer, the numbers would look a lot like Thursdays.

Fridays are perfect because you don?t have to base your entire weekend around the Bomber game. In summer, there are plenty of other things to do besides just the cabin too. A beach day for example becomes way less easy if you have to get to a game, especially if you have kiddos
I can agree Friday is a nice compromise.
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Jesse

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 09, 2023, 01:48:18 PM
The Bombers understand their fans. Any one game isn't indicative of anything and isn't really the major influence. Season ticket holders are the main consideration concerning the home game schedule.

They know if they were to move every game to Friday or Saturday there would be people who would cancel immediately. They also know not everyone likes the Thursday games as much.

It's a balance. The idea is to make sure that there are enough free weekends (Thursday games) for cottage season ticket holders who either won't mind missing a game or two or will stay in the city another day to attend the game here or there. On the other hand, it's not possible for the league to have them play every Thursday in the summer and they know it's not the preferred date of a lot of people who don't get out of town regularly in the summer.

Keep things balanced and neither group is excluded to the point of cancelling their season's tickets.

Except 4 of 6 home games in the summer doesn?t scream balance.
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GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: Jesse on July 09, 2023, 08:53:40 PM
Except 4 of 6 home games in the summer doesn?t scream balance.
if was even 3 of 6 Thursdays now that would be balance ;)
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Jesse

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 09, 2023, 08:55:21 PM
if was even 3 of 6 Thursdays now that would be balance ;)

1 or 2 would be balanced.
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theaardvark

Whatever happened to Filmon Friday's?  They'd make Thursday night games easier to sell...
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pjrocksmb

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Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 09, 2023, 01:48:18 PM
The Bombers understand their fans. Any one game isn't indicative of anything and isn't really the major influence. Season ticket holders are the main consideration concerning the home game schedule.

They know if they were to move every game to Friday or Saturday there would be people who would cancel immediately. They also know not everyone likes the Thursday games as much.

It's a balance. The idea is to make sure that there are enough free weekends (Thursday games) for cottage season ticket holders who either won't mind missing a game or two or will stay in the city another day to attend the game here or there. On the other hand, it's not possible for the league to have them play every Thursday in the summer and they know it's not the preferred date of a lot of people who don't get out of town regularly in the summer.

Keep things balanced and neither group is excluded to the point of cancelling their season's tickets.
Quote from: blue_or_die on July 09, 2023, 03:07:01 PM
I would challenge that if we had games on Saturdays during the summer, the numbers would look a lot like Thursdays.

Fridays are perfect because you don?t have to base your entire weekend around the Bomber game. In summer, there are plenty of other things to do besides just the cabin too. A beach day for example becomes way less easy if you have to get to a game, especially if you have kiddos
You both make some good points.
Quote from: theaardvark on July 09, 2023, 11:19:15 PM
Whatever happened to Filmon Friday's?  They'd make Thursday night games easier to sell...
GOM offers their employees up to 20 days off without pay (optional) now but the employee chooses the dates, subject to management approval.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Jesse on July 09, 2023, 08:53:40 PM
Except 4 of 6 home games in the summer doesn?t scream balance.

I mean...it's one away from 50/50? The Bombers aren't scheduling games by themselves.

GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 10, 2023, 01:00:57 AM
I mean...it's one away from 50/50? The Bombers aren't scheduling games by themselves.
This was my point. A couple more weekend games the entire year would be even.
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pjrocksmb

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 10, 2023, 01:00:57 AM
I mean...it's one away from 50/50? The Bombers aren't scheduling games by themselves.
Yup, CFL is trying something new.  Folks need to let this play out to see how it works for attendance and TV viewer #s.

Jesse

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 10, 2023, 01:00:57 AM
I mean...it's one away from 50/50? The Bombers aren't scheduling games by themselves.

The league schedules games from Thurs-Sun.
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theaardvark

Looks like Thursday games are getting on CBS...  maybe that was part of the reason... and later in the season, scheduling against the NFL... people will already be used to Thursday Night CFL ball...
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pjrocksmb

Quote from: theaardvark on July 10, 2023, 03:38:03 PM
Looks like Thursday games are getting on CBS...  maybe that was part of the reason... and later in the season, scheduling against the NFL... people will already be used to Thursday Night CFL ball...
Agree

wpg#1

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 08, 2023, 04:29:48 PM
The Cottage excuse was thrown in the trash based on yesterdays crowd. Nuff said.

We drove in for the game from the lake, many many many people don't. I know, I talk to them.
They just sit on their decks watching the game.
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pjrocksmb

Quote from: wpg#1 on July 10, 2023, 05:48:28 PM
We drove in for the game from the lake, many many many people don't. I know, I talk to them.
They just sit on their decks watching the game.
Yup it's a factor. 

Bluehawk

Miller is a very good business man.
I would bet we do not see 4 Thursday games next year. Max 3 hopefully only 2.
Friday's numbers prove out that no matter where you drive from, more
fans show up on a Friday vs a Thursday.
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GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: Bluehawk on July 11, 2023, 03:18:48 AM
Miller is a very good business man.
I would bet we do not see 4 Thursday games next year. Max 3 hopefully only 2.
Friday's numbers prove out that no matter where you drive from, more
fans show up on a Friday vs a Thursday.

This is the truth! Numbers tell the story.
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Bluehawk

An extra 2000 fans at an average tix price of 50 is a 100k drop into the piggy bank.
Maybe simplistic number crunching but I am sure Wade is well aware of the situation.
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peg_city

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Quote from: peg_city on July 05, 2023, 01:26:17 PM
Banjo Bowl usually doesn't sell out until week of the game (last year was an exception). There only appears to be 1000-2000 tickets left (last I looked).

Looks like less than 500 left. I bet it will sell out before the end of the month.

pjrocksmb

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Quote from: Bluehawk on July 11, 2023, 03:18:48 AM
Miller is a very good business man.
I would bet we do not see 4 Thursday games next year. Max 3 hopefully only 2.
Friday's numbers prove out that no matter where you drive from, more
fans show up on a Friday vs a Thursday.

Need to see the numbers from this year and previous years to make the determination.  The league is trying out a new scheduling idea this year.  While each team will have input, we won't get to pick and choose exactly what we want.  These things come and go.  We have seen Wednesday and Thursday games before.  Wednesdays are likely out, Thursday games are here to stay just a matter of how many.  Hope they can figure out the optimum schedule.  This is a complicated issue that has many factors to consider.  I don't care when the games are, just want what's best for the league, tv deals and fans.

Too early in the season  to determine how well these Thursday games sell both for attendance and TV numbers.  Hoping for big crowd Thursday!!!

bluengold204

Quote from: pjrocksmb on July 12, 2023, 02:34:37 PM
Need to see the numbers from this year and previous years to make the determination.  The league is trying out a new scheduling idea this year.  While each team will have input, we won't get to pick and choose exactly what we want.  These things come and go.  We have seen Wednesday and Thursday games before.  Wednesdays are likely out, Thursday games are here to stay just a matter of how many.  Hope they can figure out the optimum schedule.  This is a complicated issue that has many factors to consider.  I don't care when the games are, just want what's best for the league, tv deals and fans.

Too early in the season  to determine how well these Thursday games sell both for attendance and TV numbers.  Hoping for big crowd Thursday!!!

What is their new scheduling idea?  Thursday games have been around for as long as I can remember.

The Zipp

Quote from: bluengold204 on July 12, 2023, 03:04:49 PM
What is their new scheduling idea?  Thursday games have been around for as long as I can remember.

Sunday night...

Bluehawk

#65
Dont mind the idea of a Sunday night game as long as its an early start at 6 or 7 or even a late afternoon start.
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The Zipp

I have been enjoying them.  Not sure why none this week...

Stretch

Quote from: The Zipp on July 12, 2023, 04:33:49 PM
I have been enjoying them.  Not sure why none this week...

Good question. It looks like they are scheduled for the rest of the summer (up to the weekend before Labour Day weekend).
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drahgon

Quote from: The Zipp on July 12, 2023, 04:33:49 PM
I have been enjoying them.  Not sure why none this week...

Same, having  CFL football to watch 4 nights a week has been quite enjoyable for me. I much prefer it to the double/triple header format.

3rdand1.5

Each to their own, and I understand why Thursday games with the summer cabin crowd....

For me personally they are more difficult to attend, and I always spend more money at game on the weekend.

Example last week, Friday night took a client to the game, five in our group, went to BP before the game, hoped the shuttle, spent just over $250 on appy's and drinks at BP, I bought four rounds of 1919's and a Coors at the game $77 plus tip each round so another $308 at the game, then back to BP for drinks and food and another almost $200 bill. Using this example spent around $800 plus the cost of tickets. Now if this was on a Thursday evening, I wouldn't have been able to do this.

On a Thursday it's two tickets maybe a beer or two at BP, possibly a beer at the game then straight home afterwards.

I'm just happy to have games and know I don't represent everyone, but for me personally all the Thursday games are not ideal, and again just for me, it works out to me spending far less.

blue_or_die

I like the Sunday nighters in the summer before NFL starts (and even when NFL starts...although I doubt they will try to compete). I don't necessarily ever want a Bomber game on a Sunday night in the summer, but having something to casually watch that I enjoy but am not invested in is great. Same vibes as Thursday non-Bomber games.

#Ride?

The Zipp

Quote from: blue_or_die on July 12, 2023, 07:07:02 PM
I like the Sunday nighters in the summer before NFL starts (and even when NFL starts...although I doubt they will try to compete). I don't necessarily ever want a Bomber game on a Sunday night in the summer, but having something to casually watch that I enjoy but am not invested in is great. Same vibes as Thursday non-Bomber games.



agreed...we only have one sunday game this season and its the labour day one which is always Sundays...I kinda wish we had one sunday night at home in the summer...wouldn't want any more than that.  I would trade one Thursday for a Sunday on the August long weekend...take away another Thursday and put it on a Friday and the sched is almost perfect.

pjrocksmb

I love a CFL game each week they way they are doing it. 


Jesse

Quote from: pjrocksmb on July 13, 2023, 12:53:58 AM
TV numbers keep rising.  The league might be on to something here.

https://3downnation.com/2023/07/12/cfl-tv-ratings-continue-upward-trend-in-week-5-with-largest-average-audience-of-2023-season/?fbclid=IwAR2rC5YQVJ_8douERb_45sL3qkHOuARCymygOraT1dQqnniJfpn7KExHtmU

TV numbers are rising because they started in the toilet.

I think for casuals, it takes a few weeks for them to realize the season is starting and to begin tuning in with any regularity.
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pjrocksmb

Quote from: Jesse on July 13, 2023, 05:52:20 PM
TV numbers are rising because they started in the toilet.

I think for casuals, it takes a few weeks for them to realize the season is starting and to begin tuning in with any regularity.
Good point

pjrocksmb

28.5k last game on Thursday and over 30k last night.  Puts the argument to bed at least short term about the small crowds.  Have to see how the season numbers come out, other teams attendance and the TV numbers.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: pjrocksmb on August 04, 2023, 11:39:40 PM
28.5k last game on Thursday and over 30k last night.  Puts the argument to bed at least short term about the small crowds.  Have to see how the season numbers come out, other teams attendance and the TV numbers.

I think it was 30.5 or 30.7, which is absolutely astounding for Thursday.  So much for the Thursday sucks theory!  My section was pretty busy, and it's usually pretty dead.  I knew the instant I got into the tailgate that it was going to be a big crowd.

Whatever WFC did to draw more & new people out, it's working!!
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pjrocksmb

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 05, 2023, 12:49:34 AM
I think it was 30.5 or 30.7, which is absolutely astounding for Thursday.  So much for the Thursday sucks theory!  My section was pretty busy, and it's usually pretty dead.  I knew the instant I got into the tailgate that it was going to be a big crowd.

Whatever WFC did to draw more & new people out, it's working!!


Your estimate is very close

blue_or_die

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 05, 2023, 12:49:34 AM
I think it was 30.5 or 30.7, which is absolutely astounding for Thursday.  So much for the Thursday sucks theory!  My section was pretty busy, and it's usually pretty dead.  I knew the instant I got into the tailgate that it was going to be a big crowd.

Whatever WFC did to draw more & new people out, it's working!!


Great numbers for a Thursday and actually a perfect scenario given it?s right before a long weekend so entirely possible if that game was tonight instead (Friday) the crowd could have been smaller. If not a long weekend though and I think this game would have been a sell out if played on the Friday.
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Pigskin

Quote from: blue_or_die on August 05, 2023, 03:27:11 AM
Great numbers for a Thursday and actually a perfect scenario given it?s right before a long weekend so entirely possible if that game was tonight instead (Friday) the crowd could have been smaller. If not a long weekend though and I think this game would have been a sell out if played on the Friday.

I believe you are right. Heavy traffic to the lake this morning. Good call by the schedule makers.
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pjrocksmb

Quote from: Pigskin on August 05, 2023, 04:41:30 AM
I believe you are right. Heavy traffic to the lake this morning. Good call by the schedule makers.

Yup.  Funny how the anti Thursday crowd is a wee bit silent now.  Guess they are busy cooking birds.

TecnoGenius

I saw Wade moving around the doors between the tailgate and stadium entrance.  He looked extremely happy.  Haha, he probably got the night's sale numbers report just then  ;D ;D ;D

Money money money!
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Jesse

Quote from: pjrocksmb on August 06, 2023, 02:55:30 AM
Yup.  Funny how the anti Thursday crowd is a wee bit silent now.  Guess they are busy cooking birds.

We still have far too many and, long weekends aside, it doesn?t change the extra challenges Thursday games bring to most people.

What a turd of a comment.
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theaardvark

Quote from: Jesse on August 06, 2023, 01:40:49 PM
We still have far too many and, long weekends aside, it doesn?t change the extra challenges Thursday games bring to most people.

What a turd of a comment.

The major challenge to a Thursday game for me (who doesn't need to drink myself stupid at the game and need a day off after) is that it conflicts with a poker game I like.

I guess attendance is fine on Thursday, wonder what concessions are like, with people needing to work the next day...
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bunker

Quote from: theaardvark on August 06, 2023, 03:05:47 PM
The major challenge to a Thursday game for me (who doesn't need to drink myself stupid at the game and need a day off after) is that it conflicts with a poker game I like.

I guess attendance is fine on Thursday, wonder what concessions are like, with people needing to work the next day...
Based on the people around me on Thursday, and their trips for beer/etc..., I think work was very far from their minds in most cases.

pjrocksmb

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Quote from: Jesse on August 06, 2023, 01:40:49 PM
We still have far too many and, long weekends aside, it doesn?t change the extra challenges Thursday games bring to most people.

What a turd of a comment.
People complained that Thursdays would not draw and then they did.  They also dismissed the lake / camping crowd factor.  Just having a little fun here with a friendly razz.  Every year the schedule changes. I am not sure it's proven that Thursdays sell the most  but they certainly have been strong as of late.  Have to see the full year's attendance to see what worked best.  Everyone has their preferences and are entitled to their opinion but nothing wrong with a little friendly banter along the way.  I will even eat some bird because last Thursday game I wasn't expecting a good turn out (drew 28.5k) nor did I this week but we are just killing it all ways.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 06, 2023, 05:53:32 AM
I saw Wade moving around the doors between the tailgate and stadium entrance.  He looked extremely happy.  Haha, he probably got the night's sale numbers report just then  ;D ;D ;D

Money money money!
Yeah that's great busy night! Great job blue!

Quote from: theaardvark on August 06, 2023, 03:05:47 PM
The major challenge to a Thursday game for me (who doesn't need to drink myself stupid at the game and need a day off after) is that it conflicts with a poker game I like.

I guess attendance is fine on Thursday, wonder what concessions are like, with people needing to work the next day...
One factor we don't get to see.  We have talked about attendance and TV numbers but consession sales numbers would be really nice to see!

The other factor is the opponent and I would love to see an analysis of how that factors in.  East vs. West, strong vs. Weak teams.  I assume long term Sask. draws the most by a strong margin.  Obviously weather plays a big role.  Rain and the cold being the biggest factors.  Need a stats geek to deliver the goods.

theaardvark

Concessions are a part of revenue, but are they a considerable part of the game day revenue?  How many people spend as much money on concessions as they do on their tickets?  I guess with $10 beer and $35 tickets, you can get there, but with $150 tickets and $5 pop, its harder...
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pjrocksmb

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Quote from: theaardvark on August 06, 2023, 07:36:51 PM
Concessions are a part of revenue, but are they a considerable part of the game day revenue?  How many people spend as much money on concessions as they do on their tickets?  I guess with $10 beer and $35 tickets, you can get there, but with $150 tickets and $5 pop, its harder...
Good point.  Really hard to say how the total game break down is for revenue.  When I was a binge drinker in the student section we would likely spend double the ticket price on drinks and more on snacks and meals.  Lots of interesting analysis could come from looking at the spending habits of the average consumer.  My current group likely is still spending on average the 1 to 2x the ticket price a game.  We sit upper deck.  I've been sober for over 5 year but my crew drinks average to heavy at times.  I was buying the concession food more in the past they had those deals a few years ago.

Bluehawk

Not being quiet at all but for the pro Thursday fans, perhaps we have a first place showdown, a 100k 50/50 start, and a long weekend where the cabin crowd still gets their 3 nights away for every Thursday summer game
and we will fill the stadium.
As I have said before a couple Thursdays okay and hats off to the Bombers for making this one work.
All the stars aligned for this game to have a good crowd.
I'd rather be a Bomber than a .....

pjrocksmb

Quote from: Bluehawk on August 06, 2023, 11:56:21 PM
Not being quiet at all but for the pro Thursday fans, perhaps we have a first place showdown, a 100k 50/50 start, and a long weekend where the cabin crowd still gets their 3 nights away for every Thursday summer game
and we will fill the stadium.
As I have said before a couple Thursdays okay and hats off to the Bombers for making this one work.
All the stars aligned for this game to have a good crowd.
1st place showdown a factor no doubt

peg_city

Montreal game is close to a sell out.

Banjo Bowl is a sell out.

I'm expecting the Toronto game (friday night) will be close to a sell out.

Edmonton game?

bwiser

Quote from: Bluehawk on August 06, 2023, 11:56:21 PM
Not being quiet at all but for the pro Thursday fans, perhaps we have a first place showdown, a 100k 50/50 start, and a long weekend where the cabin crowd still gets their 3 nights away for every Thursday summer game
and we will fill the stadium.
As I have said before a couple Thursdays okay and hats off to the Bombers for making this one work.
All the stars aligned for this game to have a good crowd.
I don't know if it was mentioned but there was a lot of police and firefighters at the BC game. They definitely helped the attendance that night. I assume they got tickets at a discounted rate. I saw a number of people from other countries at that game and were treated to a fun CFL game. Maybe we got a few new fans and merchandise sales probably benefited that night.

peg_city

2022 Financial Statement

Gate Receipts  - 13.8 million
Game day revenue (concessions & merchandise etc) - 10.4 million

Both are not including playoffs

peg_city

I was looking at the ticket sales for the Argos game on the 29th.

There are maybe 1000-2000 tickets left with two weeks left to go. Looks to be a sell-out.

Jesse

Quote from: peg_city on September 13, 2023, 03:55:24 PM
I was looking at the ticket sales for the Argos game on the 29th.

There are maybe 1000-2000 tickets left with two weeks left to go. Looks to be a sell-out.

Biggest game of the year - league wide.
My wife is amazing!

blue_gold_84

Huge FNF showdown at IGF on the 29th. That place is going to be a madhouse!
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Sec223

25000 maybe for the Elks

GOLDMEMBER

Indeed the TO game will be electric yet again!
BB raking in the dough!  Build that emergency fund lol
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peg_city

I would say less than 1000 tickets left for the Toronto game

BLUEBOMBER

Argos are a very good team. The BB better have a game plan on how to deal with Kelly, Oulette and the Argos receivers and defence.

3rdand1.5

Quote from: BLUEBOMBER on September 14, 2023, 05:54:24 PM
Argos are a very good team. The BB better have a game plan on how to deal with Kelly, Oulette and the Argos receivers and defence.

True but they can also sew up first place before we meet them....With 1st place sewn-up and no byes we may not see the best Argos team....

theaardvark

Quote from: 3rdand1.5 on September 14, 2023, 07:11:46 PM
True but they can also sew up first place before we meet them....With 1st place sewn-up and no byes we may not see the best Argos team....

Oh, you can BET we will see their best, regardless who has clinched what.  This is a GC preview, there is no better way to prep for that than to play us full out...
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: 3rdand1.5 on September 14, 2023, 07:11:46 PM
True but they can also sew up first place before we meet them....With 1st place sewn-up and no byes we may not see the best Argos team....

Ah, it must be nice to be an E team.  Weaker opponents, less opponents, and locking up 1st with 5-6 weeks to spare.  That's why I look at TOR's record with a big grain of salt.

I still think WPG, as the caught-in-the-middle team should alternate divisions: odd years, west; even years, east.  Until the 10th team arrives.  After all, how many years did we spend in the E?  Not like it would be something new.
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theaardvark

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 15, 2023, 05:39:35 AM
Ah, it must be nice to be an E team.  Weaker opponents, less opponents, and locking up 1st with 5-6 weeks to spare.  That's why I look at TOR's record with a big grain of salt.

I still think WPG, as the caught-in-the-middle team should alternate divisions: odd years, west; even years, east.  Until the 10th team arrives.  After all, how many years did we spend in the E?  Not like it would be something new.

Or, they could come up with a way to have the best 6 teams make the playoffs, with one team potentially moving to the other division...
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blue_gold_84

Alternate divisions every season... LOL :D
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 15, 2023, 01:54:07 PM
Alternate divisions every season... LOL :D

Why not?  It makes more sense to always have one division 4 teams the other 5?  How is that fair?  It's just as arbitrary.

We were an East team for a long time.  No reason we can't be again.

Can you imagine if we had been in the East since 2016?  We'd have probably made the GC every single year.

Part of the reason the E is weaker is because they don't need to try as hard.  Unless the division is completely horrid (i.e. crossover), only 1 team has to not make the playoffs.

If you don't like every year, then make it 2 years in W, 2 in E.  If you don't like that, make it 3, or 4 or 5.  Whatever.  The CFL has already been doing that where N=10 or 15 or so, or whatever the timespan is between when OTT folds and then reforms and then folds...

I personally would love to see the shake-up us sometimes being in the E would cause.  One thing's for sure, you'd see a lot more WPG v SSK GCs.
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peg_city

Toronto game is basically sold out. They are still selling singles and obstructed seats. But that's it.

I wonder how the game against Edmonton will do attendance wise. The game might be important....

John T.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 15, 2023, 09:37:07 PM
Why not?  It makes more sense to always have one division 4 teams the other 5?  How is that fair?  It's just as arbitrary.

No it doesn't. The NHL didn't always have eight teams in each division. The NFL has had different numbers of teams in different divisions. There's nothing the least bit weird about it.

What's weird is putting a team from WESTERN Canada in an EASTERN division. When there were only eight teams, there wasn't much choice, but there sure is now. The only logical way Winnipeg goes back to the eastern division is if the 10th CFL team is from Saskatoon.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: John T. on September 16, 2023, 07:12:21 PM
No it doesn't. The NHL didn't always have eight teams in each division. The NFL has had different numbers of teams in different divisions. There's nothing the least bit weird about it.

What's weird is putting a team from WESTERN Canada in an EASTERN division. When there were only eight teams, there wasn't much choice, but there sure is now. The only logical way Winnipeg goes back to the eastern division is if the 10th CFL team is from Saskatoon.

We're smack dab in the center of Canada.  We're not any more Western or Eastern.  Sure, MB is considered "western Canada" politically, as ONT likes to think of itself as the "center of the universe", but there's no law that says the CFL has to use that definition.  Indeed: you proved the point with your Saskatoon example, as "western" would mean absolutely nothing in that case.

If "Western" really meant so much then when the CFL was 8 teams they could have stuck with 5 in W and 3 in E.

I don't know why anyone here would be against the idea, it almost certainly would help the Bombers, and it would provide more TSN talking points and stir-the-pot in general, which always adds to the TV entertainment value.
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bomb squad

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 17, 2023, 06:59:57 AM
We're smack dab in the center of Canada.  We're not any more Western or Eastern.  Sure, MB is considered "western Canada" politically, as ONT likes to think of itself as the "center of the universe", but there's no law that says the CFL has to use that definition.  Indeed: you proved the point with your Saskatoon example, as "western" would mean absolutely nothing in that case.

If "Western" really meant so much then when the CFL was 8 teams they could have stuck with 5 in W and 3 in E.

I don't know why anyone here would be against the idea, it almost certainly would help the Bombers, and it would provide more TSN talking points and stir-the-pot in general, which always adds to the TV entertainment value.

Are you being sincere on that? I have a hunch you already know the reasons why. Anyways, I can summarize it in one simple statement: We don't like it.


Waffler

Our rivalries are in the west and those are easier sells for the Bombers. That's what it comes down to. The bucks. Can't blame them for that though.

In the past the bombers got "consideration" from the league for switching divisions but I can't seem to recall what that was now. I remember Sask being being up in arms about it.
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