Blue Bombers sign quarterback Dakota Prukop

Lincoln Locomotive · July 01, 2023, 07:38:26 PM

I do feel bad for Piggy....and I have to wonder why he never was given another opportunity on short yardage? They threw Dru in there on a number of successful 3rd down and short yardage attempts after the very first two attempts were stuffed at the goal line. He may yet find employment elsewhere based on his athleticism and preseason success.

Signing Prukop though, was the right decision for the team as he's a known and reliable 3rd down option whereas Piggy had yet to establish himself.

TecnoGenius · July 01, 2023, 07:48:31 PM

Quote from: dd on July 01, 2023, 04:24:54 AM
Streveler was charismatic, a gamer and a fan favourite because of his smash mouth running style, but he certainly wasn?t a starting Qb. Never will be. For the love of god stop it already.

If Strev was in the CFL right now he could easily be a starting QB. He couldn't be a starting QB in WPG or a "contender" team; but he could be one in the "garbage QB" teams, which is about half of them right now. I'd start Strevie over the 2 nobodies in OTT & EDM this week. I'd start him over anyone HAM has (including both Schiltz and BLM). I'd probably start him over Cody, too.

Don't forget Strev has a handful+ of starts in WPG and he won around half of them, and didn't have any real stinker performances (like Zach last week!). That's not too shabby.

Sir Blue and Gold · July 01, 2023, 08:08:04 PM

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 01, 2023, 07:48:31 PM
If Strev was in the CFL right now he could easily be a starting QB. He couldn't be a starting QB in WPG or a "contender" team; but he could be one in the "garbage QB" teams, which is about half of them right now. I'd start Strevie over the 2 nobodies in OTT & EDM this week. I'd start him over anyone HAM has (including both Schiltz and BLM). I'd probably start him over Cody, too.

Don't forget Strev has a handful+ of starts in WPG and he won around half of them, and didn't have any real stinker performances (like Zach last week!). That's not too shabby.

...easily be a starting QB?

TecnoGenius · July 01, 2023, 08:11:41 PM

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 01, 2023, 08:08:04 PM
...easily be a starting QB?

Did you read my comment? Work with me here: You're C.Jones in EDM. You just signed Strevie. Do you start Strevie or that Doege nobody next week??

Ya, thought so. Therefore, Strevie would easily be a starting QB in the CFL. Like tomorrow.

Sir Blue and Gold · July 02, 2023, 05:47:28 PM

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 01, 2023, 08:11:41 PM
Did you read my comment? Work with me here: You're C.Jones in EDM. You just signed Strevie. Do you start Strevie or that Doege nobody next week??

Ya, thought so. Therefore, Strevie would easily be a starting QB in the CFL. Like tomorrow.

By that definition, basically anybody who plays quarterback could be a starting QB. There might be openings in the league for good QBs, but Streveler coming back here and "easily" being an effective starting QB is wishful thinking at best.

blue_or_die · July 02, 2023, 06:38:31 PM

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 02, 2023, 05:47:28 PM
By that definition, basically anybody who plays quarterback could be a starting QB. There might be openings in the league for good QBs, but Streveler coming back here and "easily" being an effective starting QB is wishful thinking at best.

Tbf he didn?t say ?effective qb?. I think he means Strev?s abilities are a known commodity and you?d utilize those vs just about any other non-starting (and many starting) QBs at the mo. I know I would if I was?.most teams in the league rn.

dd · July 03, 2023, 03:19:10 AM

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 01, 2023, 08:11:41 PM
Did you read my comment? Work with me here: You're C.Jones in EDM. You just signed Strevie. Do you start Strevie or that Doege nobody next week??

Ya, thought so. Therefore, Strevie would easily be a starting QB in the CFL. Like tomorrow.

No, he couldn?t

TecnoGenius · July 03, 2023, 05:26:50 AM

Quote from: dd on July 03, 2023, 03:19:10 AM
No, he couldn?t

You'd start Doge Coin, OTT Adams, Arrrrbuckle, Corny and/or Mr Sack Cody ahead of Strevie if you had him on your roster?? Maybe if you try hard you could justify starting 1-2 of the above over Strevie. Maybe. If I'm the HC, I'm starting Strevie over all those going-nowheres.

If you would start Strevie over just 2 of the above, you're saying Strevie is a CFL starting-caliber QB. No one is saying he's great: we're saying he's better than some existing starters.

Or think of it this way: if Strevie was our #3 right now, and Zach gets hurt? I'm putting in Strevie, not Brown.

Sir Blue and Gold · July 03, 2023, 11:35:21 AM

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 03, 2023, 05:26:50 AM
You'd start Doge Coin, OTT Adams, Arrrrbuckle, Corny and/or Mr Sack Cody ahead of Strevie if you had him on your roster?? Maybe if you try hard you could justify starting 1-2 of the above over Strevie. Maybe. If I'm the HC, I'm starting Strevie over all those going-nowheres.

If you would start Strevie over just 2 of the above, you're saying Strevie is a CFL starting-caliber QB. No one is saying he's great: we're saying he's better than some existing starters.

Or think of it this way: if Strevie was our #3 right now, and Zach gets hurt? I'm putting in Strevie, not Brown.

Why all the mental gymnastics? You said Streveler could "easily" be a starting QB in the CFL. For that to happen he would need produce like one. On paper means nothing after the first snap. Considering he's never been one I have no idea if he could or not but I don't think it would be "easy".

Jesse · July 03, 2023, 02:01:07 PM

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 03, 2023, 11:35:21 AM
Why all the mental gymnastics? You said Streveler could "easily" be a starting QB in the CFL. For that to happen he would need produce like one. On paper means nothing after the first snap. Considering he's never been one I have no idea if he could or not but I don't think it would be "easy".

It would be an easy decision for half the coaches in the league to start Strevy.

Pete · July 03, 2023, 02:21:28 PM

It may not be "easy" to just step in for strevler, but it is an easy decision for the GM's of several teams to sign him to be a starter ( if available which is unlikely) (the other factor is with Lawler situation we might have cap space for a reunion, for this year anyway.)

The Zipp · July 03, 2023, 02:43:11 PM

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 03, 2023, 11:35:21 AM
Why all the mental gymnastics? You said Streveler could "easily" be a starting QB in the CFL. For that to happen he would need produce like one. On paper means nothing after the first snap. Considering he's never been one I have no idea if he could or not but I don't think it would be "easy".

Dude is getting some pretty good coaching and experience in the NFL - at least in the QB room...does he stick with the Jets? Maybe Rodgers will take a shine to him?

I can't seem him being a worse QB than when he played for the Bombers last

TecnoGenius · July 03, 2023, 08:43:16 PM

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 03, 2023, 11:35:21 AM
Why all the mental gymnastics? You said Streveler could "easily" be a starting QB in the CFL. For that to happen he would need produce like one. On paper means nothing after the first snap. Considering he's never been one I have no idea if he could or not but I don't think it would be "easy".

Were you out of the country for 2018-2019? The CFL player stats are still down but from memory Strev started around 10 games for us in '18-'19. He was our de facto starter when Nichols was hurt, and the team felt comfortable enough that he could win enough games to not panic-buy another QB. It was only when Zach became available and post-season approached that we wanted a more-vet QB to make a run.

From memory, Strev won about half his starts. That's better than many of the lesser QBs of the CFL currently. Yes, we can assume he's even better after his NFL experience. But even if he's just the same ol' Strev, he's already better than some of the lessers being rolled out lately.

Yes, he's probably still not as good as Zach, Trevor, Masoli, VAJ. I'd say he's around as good as Cody, Kelly and Maier. I think he's better than all the rest. Therefore, by simple math (9 starting slots, 4-7 starters better than him = 2-5 starting possibilities for him), if he was in the CFL, he'd be starting.

bunker · July 03, 2023, 09:22:05 PM

I think he'd definitely be given a shot by someone in the CFL. Whether he would succeed and hold down a starter position long term? Impossible to know. Probably depends in part on whether he's put in a position to succeed or not. I don't think the bombers had confidence in him as a starter 4 seasons ago, which is why they went out and got Zach, but a lot of time has passed since then, and he's almost certainly improved.

Pigskin · July 03, 2023, 09:41:25 PM

Quote from: bunker on July 03, 2023, 09:22:05 PM
I think he'd definitely be given a shot by someone in the CFL. Whether he would succeed and hold down a starter position long term? Impossible to know. Probably depends in part on whether he's put in a position to succeed or not. I don't think the bombers had confidence in him as a starter 4 seasons ago, which is why they went out and got Zach, but a lot of time has passed since then, and he's almost certainly improved.

Agree. A 50/50 starting QB isn't going to win you to many Grey Cups. I would be worried with his style of play, how long would he last.