Started by ModAdmin, February 13, 2023, 05:14:47 PM
Quote from: ModAdmin on February 14, 2023, 04:26:38 PMConfirmed - Blue Bombers sign Kenny Lawler to a two-year contract.
Quote from: 3rdand1.5 on February 14, 2023, 05:08:01 PMSchoen and Lawler as 1a and 1b, Demski as #3, and a combination of Woli, BOLO, Agadosi, Mc Crea, and a fresh crop of rookies to fill out the #4 through #6 spots....looks good
Quote from: blue_or_die on February 14, 2023, 05:42:27 PMDon't forget Grant as backup in a pinch if needed. No superstar rec but knows the system and we know he's got the wheels. Good to have.
Quote from: DM83 on February 14, 2023, 07:21:36 PMWhat was the name of that tall drink of water, who played one game and tore up his knee? Hows he doing?
Quote from: Blue In BC on February 15, 2023, 02:15:31 PMBombers might pick up some back up / depth players at the right price today? I still like Justin Herman as a good ST player.
Quote from: KINGCHARLES on February 15, 2023, 04:06:10 PM Hell aren't both Herdman's equally good special teams players and....Winnipeg boys?
Quote from: Blue72 on February 15, 2023, 04:26:15 PMI would like for us to bring in Sankey and have the option for a 3/4 or 4/3 defense. If Wilson or Bighill go down we would be ok and if a DT shows up at TC all the better. Briggs or Gauthier we not bad but it made a difference when they were in. Also it could give Bighill a rest during games as age is starting to get up there, BC went 3/4 with Bighill and it worked out pretty good.
Quote from: Blue72 on February 15, 2023, 04:26:15 PMI would like for us to bring in Sankey and have the option for a 3/4 or 4/3 defense.
Quote from: KINGCHARLES on February 15, 2023, 04:17:58 PMMan its so exciting that our team has the league leading WR's from the last 2 seasons on the same team. I feel like Schoen, and Lawler are going to be the deeper threat/scramble targets and Demski, Woli, Agudosi and BOLO will be more of the possesion/1st down targets. I completely forgot about McCrae, he was a very surprising and exciting dual threat RB last year, i hope we can fully utilize his potential in our loaded offence.Craziest thing is I'm fully anticipating Brady O to have a huge breakout year this year and be even more like a young Andrew Harris out of the backfield. Im basically expecting him to improve on his rushing abilities and catching more passes out of the backfield.Y'all wanna know something kinda mindblowing .... since the 2017 season the Bombers have been the highest scoring or 2nd highest scoring team every season. Theres a couple key factors there. Buck Pierce and that OL.
Quote from: Pete on February 15, 2023, 11:20:00 PMOr Mike Moore , who can also play de.
Quote from: Blue In BC on February 16, 2023, 07:16:40 PMNo rumours of any Bomber acquisitions for depth players?
Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 17, 2023, 05:18:38 AMWe're waiting for the dregs. We've blown the wad. The only way we get more FA vets is if they've exhausted all other options and they can have no choice but to accept our lowball offer.The rest is up to the scouts and some miracle IMP ELCs. I wonder who they have dialled up?
Quote from: theaardvark on February 17, 2023, 04:23:07 PMI think the biggest factor in any other additions will be character. Walters and O'Shea won't be picking up bargain guys that are problem children. They will possibly take a depth guy with heart that can play ST and wants to contribute any way he can. They won't be taking on guys that are hot heads or take penalties. I think this years draft might have a player or two that make the roster, as well as previous draft picks coming to camp... we pick 8, 15, 26, 35, etc... all our picks this year, albeit 2nd last each round for our success...
Quote from: Freebird on February 17, 2023, 06:12:54 PMBlue Bombers agree to terms with American WR Bailey on one-year contracthttps://www.tsn.ca/cfl/rasheed-bailey-agrees-to-terms-winnipeg-blue-bombers-on-one-year-deal-1.1920653
Quote from: theaardvark on February 23, 2023, 02:33:46 PMHave to wonder whether using a DI spot for a P is being used instead of G because we have such good Global players already... and a P on an ELC is going to be very cheap...Good signing, if he can punt as well or better than Leggs, Leggs can concentrate on K.
Quote from: M.O.A.B. on February 23, 2023, 03:02:28 PMI'm not in favor of using a DI spot for a kicker/punter unless the guy can do all 3 kick job like Medlock. It's a waste of roster spot imo.For me in order of preference ... Ideal...- Canadian doing all three - American (DI) doing all three- Combo of Canadian kicker / punter These are waste of a roster spot- Combo of Canadian and American kicker / punter - Combo of American kicker / punter
Quote from: Blue In BC on February 23, 2023, 03:20:21 PMYeah it's a tough sell to use a DI spot for a kicker unless he does all kicking duties and excels at each. I'd still be looking for a very good global kicker to compete. We have a few good global players so that becomes a possible issue, but it's the direction I'd choose. That's if we choose to roster 2 kickers.
Quote from: Jesse on February 23, 2023, 03:27:54 PMYeah. Makes it seem as if this is purely a move to push Leggs, and not a candidate that could realistically replace him - regardless of how well he does.But the Bombers do unexpected things with their special teams at times.
Quote from: LXTSN on February 23, 2023, 02:13:34 PMNot the signing that we've been waiting for but this guy should be competition for Leggs punting:https://www.betweenthegoalposts.com/post/cfl-winnipeg-blue-bombers-sign-devin-anctil
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 23, 2023, 05:20:16 PMHe must have been a teammate of Schoen at some point as he played at KSU from 2016-2019.
Quote from: Tiger on February 24, 2023, 05:02:40 AMThe interesting thing about Devin Anctil is he also an experienced holder. I could not think of why we did not sign a PK instead of. P until I thought of this. Then again he was also a PK in Community College. I guess we will see.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 24, 2023, 04:45:09 PMPrukop was holding last year... always makes sense to have a dedicated holder, and who better than a dedicated punter. A guy who is already working with the LS, and would just be standing on the sidelines otherwise.I guess Leggs could hold for himself... there is the whole rule for dropkicking...
Quote from: Blue In BC on February 24, 2023, 05:21:22 PMAgain, IMO we'd be hard pressed to use a DI spot for a punter. All the complaints about Liegghio were about PK both in accuracy and depth. While I think we need to continue to let him develop, adding a punter is neither a +/- to that issue.Last year we retained Mourtada on the PR. Barring injury that's currently where I'd expect this new punter to be at the end of TC. The preference would still be to add a global kicker of some sort to reside on our PR. It would be easier to activate him within the ratio if an injury happened.Also the preference would be for a # 3 QB to be the holder in the event we need to do some sort of fake.
Quote from: Blue In BC on February 24, 2023, 05:21:22 PMAgain, IMO we'd be hard pressed to use a DI spot for a punter. All the complaints about Liegghio were about PK both in accuracy and depth. While I think we need to continue to let him develop, adding a punter is neither a +/- to that issue.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 24, 2023, 06:32:55 PMYa, I have no idea what people are smoking. We were hard pressed to waste a DI spot on the league's best K/P with Meddie! No way we waste a DI on just a P! (And also being a H doesn't change that.)Maybe the goal is to have him coach up Leggs with some P tips? Or maybe just to keep Leggs from getting complacent (read: realizing we have nobody we could possibly replace him with).An IMP P-only is virtually useless in the CFL.Next
Quote from: theaardvark on February 24, 2023, 06:11:46 PMWith a K that is a NAT, and Globals for what would usually be 2 DI positions (DE and LB), I have no issue with using a DI on a P/holder, especially is Prukop does not return.
Quote from: LXTSN on February 24, 2023, 08:34:46 PMThat depends on if it would help Leggs kick field goals and converts at a high percentage. There's not a lot of guys that take on both roles so if we can go from 80% to 90% that would be a huge thing for us. Plus it would improve our punting at the same time.It's not ideal but it would probably make more of an impact over having one more LB or DE on the active roster.
Quote from: LXTSN on February 24, 2023, 08:34:46 PMThat depends on if it would help Leggs kick field goals and converts at a high percentage.It's not ideal but it would probably make more of an impact over having one more LB or DE on the active roster.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 24, 2023, 09:22:39 PMWhy would it, though?I thought Leggs was pretty good at P. He was very good directionally, and good at not outkicking the coverage. At worst you could say his P distance was a tiny bit under what we would have liked.So we take away the duty he's good at (P) so he can play the stuff he's weaker-ish at (PAT,FG)? Is "he can concentrate more" really a thing? Or is this just hope.I'm with BinBC... except I would bet actual big money we don't DI a pure-P.As for "more impact", our DEs (and DTs) are always getting tired and/or dinged up and we need the rotation if we get behind on ToP. Fresh DL totally beats out a maybe-5-punts-a-game IMP P.
Quote from: ModAdmin on February 28, 2023, 06:49:43 PMCFL Headlines@CFL_Headlines1hBombers' GM Kyle Walters promises 'legit competition' for kicker Marc Liegghio in training camp: The Winnipeg Blue Bombers plan to have plenty of kickers in training camp following the inconsistent performance of Marc Liegghio during? https://3downnation.com/2023/02/28/bombers-gm-kyle-walters-promises-legit-competition-for-kicker-marc-liegghio-in-training-camp/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter via @3DownNation
Quote from: DM83 on March 06, 2023, 07:44:38 PMArds.... I love you as a fan.How does a kicker learn the "pro" game?All he does is a physical act/ 1-2-3 kick.He doesn't get touched, the goal posts don't move.I don't buy that the fans scared him by cheering or booing. I mean its a mechanic, same skill repeated over and over.He's been doin it since he was ten years old.
Quote from: Jesse on March 07, 2023, 11:47:35 AMI first picked up a gold club when I was 5, yet I somehow still don't get a hole in one every time.
Quote from: Horseman on March 07, 2023, 02:49:38 PMLeggs kickoff are not deep, he kicks it to around the 20 and then with a return the other team starts around their 40+ yard line. This gives them good field position right off the bat, if you doubt me watch this year on his KO and mentally note what yard line the other team catches the ball at.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on March 07, 2023, 03:00:23 PMI mean, he kicked a 55-yard field goal last year so it's not like leg strength is a huge issue. His kickoffs are shorter than some but this is a league where you can start on the 40 yard line anyway half the time. Leg strength is certainly not the main concern, I don't think. Net punting/kicking are more important than how far the ball travels in the air.
Quote from: the paw on March 07, 2023, 05:56:58 PMI don't really care about kick off length, and his net punting results are strong.The question is about place kicking. I don't care so much about 55 yd field goals. I want a guy who is highly accurate at up to 40-42 yards, and at least has a chance up to 50. You can work within those parameters. Which is why the converts are so concerning, they seem to indicate an occasional lack of focus.
Quote from: theaardvark on March 09, 2023, 03:30:28 PMLeggs seems to have an off game every once in a while. 16 of 20 games last year, he was perfect.Week 5 3-5Week 10 1-3Week 19 1-4Week 21 1-281.8% FG kicking.Missed 8 of 67 PA attempts. 88.1% PA attempts.Will he get better year 3? All indications point to yes...
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 09, 2023, 06:28:37 PM"Perfect" as in both FGs and converts?
Quote from: TecnoGenius on March 09, 2023, 07:40:32 PMSeriously, just go for 2 on PATs all season long. Just abandon the Leggs PAT. If he's missing about half, then the math should be in our favor. I bet we can get to 60% on 2pt PATs if we really work on it.Let Leggs concentrate on the "money" 40-55 yd FGs. If we are at the 20-25 YL on O, just gamble on 3rd down. Clearly that's Legg's danger zone.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on March 09, 2023, 07:20:21 PMNope. He had 11 (out of 20) games where he was 100% on field goals and extra points. If you break out the two playoff games separately, he was:4 for 6 FGs3 for 6 PATHis punting average in the Grey Cup was the lowest in all games played in 2022 at 39.1
Quote from: DM83 on March 12, 2023, 02:53:46 AMJust as an aside.Touch football has the option on convertsI point from the five2 points from the ten.Think about it. A de cent team should score on the majority.With our offense I would live to see us go for two pts
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on March 12, 2023, 03:08:26 PMWow, the free agent market turned stone cold dead so quickly, has to be concerning for those left without contracts knowing they are one step away from the end of their football careers. At this point any offer from one of the new leagues might buy them a year or two extension, but I doubt they ever show up in the CFL again.
Quote from: pjrocksmb on March 12, 2023, 03:52:18 AMIt's proven that going for one is a high percentage play, while going for 2 is an option at times, because it's generally a lower percentage option won't see us or majority of teams trying it as much as some would like.
Quote from: the paw on March 12, 2023, 05:30:50 PMI think the "legal tampering" window has made actual free agency much more efficient. Teams go into free agency basically known which big free agents are leaving and which top ones they have attracted. Then the dominoes fall pretty quickly as teams move to various positional Plan B's. A few hard cases hold out to see if they can get their number, but by then the market has re-set and it's time for a chat with Mr. Reality. I don't blame veterans who set a number and won't play for less, I think everyone has their own sense of what makes it worthwhile. Nothing wrong with walking away when you feel the time is right.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on March 13, 2023, 05:48:42 AMI can't remember what year it was (probably 4-5 ago) that (I think) DT (who was on TSN doing those animations) ran the numbers and said the numbers proved teams should always go for 2. Around the same time CGY and HAM started going for 2 a whack ton. The insiders may have talked about it as well, and the booth guys.It was kind of the buzz for a couple of weeks that year.If "CFL wide" (i.e. all averages) show going for 2 can make sense, then imagine how those numbers calc out when your kicker misses PATs like I miss the bullseye at darts. Add in the fact that your O is one of the best in the CFL (especially in red zone) and... should be a no-brainer for our team!!And CGY was doing it with rarely-misses-PAT Parades!!
Quote from: theaardvark on March 13, 2023, 02:32:45 PMBut I can see that taking away a PAT responsibility from a K might go against MOS's philosophy. Kinda undercuts your confidence.