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......and here it is....
Winnipeg Blue Bombers re-sign receiver Nic Demski to three-year extension
WINNIPEG, MB., February 5, 2023 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers announce today the club has re-signed receiver Nic Demski to a three-year contract extension, keeping him in Blue and Gold through 2025.
A born-and-bred Winnipegger and product of the University of Manitoba, Demski (5-11, 216) will be entering his fifth season with the Blue Bombers in 2023 after beginning his Canadian Football League career in 2015 as a first-round draft pick with the Saskatchewan Roughriders.
He first signed with Winnipeg as a free agent in 2018 and is coming off a 2022 season in which he set career bests despite missing five games. Demski finished ?22 with 64 receptions for 772 yards and 10 touchdowns - all the best numbers in his career - and in the process was named the Blue Bombers Most Outstanding Canadian Player for a second straight season and was also selected to the West Division All-Star Team.
In his four seasons with the Blue Bombers, Demski has 215 receptions for 2,523 yards and 20 touchdowns, while adding 633 yards and four more scores along the ground.
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2023, 07:41:29 PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2023, 07:46:58 PM » |
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I'm told Demski deal was done on Saturday night so he never got to the point where he could have taken advantage of the CFL's free agency negotiation window, which opened today at 11 a.m. CT. #Bombers #CFL
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2023, 07:52:58 PM » |
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2023, 08:04:19 PM » |
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A 3 year deal locks him up to continue his on going success in Winnipeg. Takes away the annual worry about free agency. He'll retire eventually as a Bomber.
Great work by Walters over the last couple of days in particular.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2023, 08:07:11 PM » |
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2023, 08:15:47 PM » |
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Great news!!
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2023, 08:42:26 PM » |
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Next signing I want to hear announced is Walters!
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2023, 08:45:14 PM » |
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The boyz are certainly BACK IN TOWN! Super super stuff! Was there ever any doubt? 
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2023, 09:40:31 PM » |
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2023, 09:50:46 PM » |
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Key cog worth every penny
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2023, 10:55:53 PM » |
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Always a top performer who offers many additional looks for our offence
Wonderful, terrific signing Well done Mr. Walters
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2023, 12:26:23 AM » |
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Hallelujah the X-Factor is back in blue and gold!!
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2023, 12:49:47 AM » |
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Hallelujah the X-Factor is back in blue and gold!!
Is he?
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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2023, 08:14:06 AM » |
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I think this is the signing this off season that makes me the happiest. It really does. Even more than the Zach signing for some strange reason.
And making it 3 years like Gittens: super awesome strategic move. Show the player love and confidence, and surely some coin, and you get loyalty and performance.
3 years!!! Woot woot. Thanks NIC DEMSKI! (saying it like Milt stuttered it out a few years ago)
Now, does anyone have an whisper numbers on what it cost us...... over-Gittens or under-Gittens?
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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2023, 12:51:33 PM » |
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Glad he's back! Interested to see what the deal is worth, especially at 3 years, it's likely to be a pretty big commitment with guaranteed cash. Not sure where that leaves us salary cap wise. Perhaps this year more than ever we very likely have a lot of SMS tied up in a few players. Gotta hope those guys stay healthy and are effective.
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2023, 01:58:08 PM » |
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Jeff Hamilton says he's "hearing" that it averages 190K.
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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2023, 01:58:58 PM » |
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Jeff Hamilton says he's "hearing" that it averages 190K.
If so that's pretty fair and realistic. He should be 20-25k less than Gittens who was over 200k.
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2023, 02:15:30 PM » |
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If so that's pretty fair and realistic. He should be 20-25k less than Gittens who was over 200k.
It's exactly the limit of what I expected/hoped to pay.
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« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2023, 03:52:22 PM » |
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I think Demski and Darby signing were the last really key free agents that were a must sign. I would like to see Bailey back as well especially with the uncertainty of Shoen right now but we do have some options if Bailey doesn't return.
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« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2023, 05:49:48 PM » |
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I think Demski and Darby signing were the last really key free agents that were a must sign. I would like to see Bailey back as well especially with the uncertainty of Shoen right now but we do have some options if Bailey doesn't return.
At this point I think Walters waits for Schoen to make up his mind before spending anymore money on receivers. If he comes back they will likely bump him up above what Bailey is asking, which could make it difficult to bump up Rasheed. If Bailey leaves I have fully expect Agudosi steps in as a starter, he's paid his dues and deserves his chance.
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« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2023, 06:15:27 PM » |
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I think this is the signing this off season that makes me the happiest. It really does. Even more than the Zach signing for some strange reason.
And making it 3 years like Gittens: super awesome strategic move. Show the player love and confidence, and surely some coin, and you get loyalty and performance.
3 years!!! Woot woot. Thanks NIC DEMSKI! (saying it like Milt stuttered it out a few years ago)
Now, does anyone have an whisper numbers on what it cost us...... over-Gittens or under-Gittens?
He is so easy to love. I am curious if he got any guaranteed $.
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« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2023, 07:43:37 PM » |
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He is so easy to love.
I am curious if he got any guaranteed $.
I'm almost certain he did.
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« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2023, 07:48:59 PM » |
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At this point I think Walters waits for Schoen to make up his mind before spending anymore money on receivers. If he comes back they will likely bump him up above what Bailey is asking, which could make it difficult to bump up Rasheed. If Bailey leaves I have fully expect Agudosi steps in as a starter, he's paid his dues and deserves his chance.
Absolutely as long as Agudosi can stay healthy!
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« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2023, 08:53:04 PM » |
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Absolutely as long as Agudosi can stay healthy!
Yes, I am excited to see Agudosi this year, hopefully he can stay healthy.
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« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2023, 08:55:50 PM » |
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Correct me if I am wrong but Agudosi was hurt then played a couple games, including that monster Calgary game, but then got hurt again for the balance of the year?
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« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2023, 09:02:05 PM » |
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Correct me if I am wrong but Agudosi was hurt then played a couple games, including that monster Calgary game, but then got hurt again for the balance of the year?
He only played 1 and a part games before getting injured. His injury history has not been good. Unfortunate or prone IDK. Showed well in the one full game.
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« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2023, 09:03:10 PM » |
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He is so easy to love.
I am curious if he got any guaranteed $.
With the new vet guaranteed money rule, any long term deal (by CFL standards) we can assume includes guaranteed $
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« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2023, 09:11:46 PM » |
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« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2023, 09:35:23 PM » |
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He only played 1 and a part games before getting injured. His injury history has not been good. Unfortunate or prone IDK. Showed well in the one full game.
righty O He only played 1 game really but boy was it a good one.
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« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2023, 09:54:04 PM » |
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Imagine how difficult it would be for a DC to defend against Demski, Schoen and Agudosi in the redzone, they have no need for Lawler or Lewis.
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« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2023, 10:35:14 PM » |
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Correct me if I am wrong but Agudosi was hurt then played a couple games, including that monster Calgary game, but then got hurt again for the balance of the year?
Yup... have to wonder if that frame just isn't made for football... 6'6, 217... and he's 29 now... Maybe he has a great year...
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« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2023, 12:56:15 AM » |
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With the new vet guaranteed money rule, any long term deal (by CFL standards) we can assume includes guaranteed $
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« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2023, 04:16:02 AM » |
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Jeff Hamilton says he's "hearing" that it averages 190K.
Very pricey for a WFC WR/SB. But Demski is a special case, and fits with what we need to do right now. Totally worth it. If Bailey leaves I have fully expect Agudosi steps in as a starter, he's paid his dues and deserves his chance.
Ya, Agudosi might be the next big thing. It was 2 TDs he got in his one game, IIRC (which is crazy insane, and really helped my fantasy that week). He was unstoppable in the EZ. Much like Eric Rogers, you just can't defend such a tall body that can also climb the ladder. He can probably catch wire balls that are 9' up in the air.
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« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2023, 01:20:10 PM » |
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Very pricey for a WFC WR/SB. But Demski is a special case, and fits with what we need to do right now. Totally worth it.
It's a great deal considering his passport, his versatility, and leadership. Being a hometown boy only sweetens the deal.
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« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2023, 12:24:19 AM » |
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I guess this means Demski gets 2nd billing only to Zach when they do IGF O player introductions?? Who 4 years ago would have pegged Demski to be our #1 receiver, and being more important than the RB?
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« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2023, 12:58:47 AM » |
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I guess this means Demski gets 2nd billing only to Zach when they do IGF O player introductions?? Who 4 years ago would have pegged Demski to be our #1 receiver, and being more important than the RB?
You are behind on the news. Lawler's coming back, he's #1, and Schoen led the league last year, so you have to put him at #3. Demski brings a lot of intangibles and warm fuzzies to go along with his skill set, but I would be surprised if he surpassed either of those in production.
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You are behind on the news. Lawler's coming back, he's #1, and Schoen led the league last year, so you have to put him at #3. Demski brings a lot of intangibles and warm fuzzies to go along with his skill set, but I would be surprised if he surpassed either of those in production.
Demski is easily the number 3 target and depending on camp/how Agudosi works out could be 4. People love Demski because he's Canadian and therefore more important due to the rules but if you compare output he is basically on par with the Rasheed Bailey/Markeith Ambles type guys. It's fine and even great when you are taking about Canadian receivers but it is still just that.
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« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2023, 01:34:51 AM » |
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You are behind on the news. Lawler's coming back, he's #1, and Schoen led the league last year, so you have to put him at #3. Demski brings a lot of intangibles and warm fuzzies to go along with his skill set, but I would be surprised if he surpassed either of those in production.
Missed it by just a few posts! The order to the IGF pre-game announcements doesn't always follow production, or $$. I always found it interesting what they do on D, with the changes in order between Bighill/Willie. Demski is the hometown hero and now the 2nd highest paid receiver. If for some reason he also ends up leading the O in TDs I could see Demski taking #2 spot in announcement order.
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« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2023, 01:41:12 AM » |
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People love Demski because he's Canadian and therefore more important due to the rules but if you compare output he is basically on par with the Rasheed Bailey/Markeith Ambles type guys.
It's fine and even great when you are taking about Canadian receivers but it is still just that.
Are you nuts? Comparing Demski to Ambles and Bailey?? Did you see all the explosions and TDs Demski pulled off last season? Watched his post-season play? His very respectable stats on the ground? You can say some things about Demski, but not that he's Ambles/Bailey, both of whom will command under $150k on the FA market.
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« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2023, 01:51:46 AM » |
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Are you nuts? Comparing Demski to Ambles and Bailey?? Did you see all the explosions and TDs Demski pulled off last season? Watched his post-season play? His very respectable stats on the ground?
You can say some things about Demski, but not that he's Ambles/Bailey, both of whom will command under $150k on the FA market.
His production is virtually identical to those two players. And Bailey is a tenacious run blocker (who has played every game the last two years). I love Demksi, but you exaggerate his impact like crazy.
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« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2023, 02:44:19 AM » |
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I love Demksi, but you exaggerate his impact like crazy.
Here's the thing, you know part of the reason why Schoen was always getting open for all those TDs? Demski taking double coverage on many/most plays. If we have Demski/Lawler/Schoen/Agudosi/Woli then D's are doomed. We'll look like 2009 Alouettes. We might continue our 2022 transition from being a D-dominant team to an O-dominant team.
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« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2023, 01:38:54 PM » |
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Are you nuts? Comparing Demski to Ambles and Bailey?? Did you see all the explosions and TDs Demski pulled off last season? Watched his post-season play? His very respectable stats on the ground?
You can say some things about Demski, but not that he's Ambles/Bailey, both of whom will command under $150k on the FA market.
Demski would absolutely be worth about what Bailey is if he weren't Canadian. That's undoubtedly a fact. We will see what the future holds I guess. He's never been close to a 1000 yard receiver and other than his career year for TD grabs in 2022 (10), his next best year is 2021 at 4 TD receptions and 1 TD run. Usually he's good for about 5 TDs a season. I doubt the 2022 TD numbers are sustainable but I suppose that's what makes the game fun to watch - I'm looking forward to finding out. He's a good player with a cool Winnipeg story for sure. I can see why you love him but with a more neutral perspective I think he is absolutely comparable to that mid tier import receiver.
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« Reply #44 on: February 09, 2023, 05:26:18 AM » |
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Demski would absolutely be worth about what Bailey is if he weren't Canadian. That's undoubtedly a fact. We will see what the future holds I guess. He's never been close to a 1000 yard receiver and other than his career year for TD grabs in 2022 (10), his next best year is 2021 at 4 TD receptions and 1 TD run.
I'm trying hard to see it your way, and for moments I can say "ya ok" -- Demski an IMP == Bailey $$... But then I really think about it and I still think you are wrong. Taking the WPG out of it, taking the NAT out of it... Is Demski a CFL top-10 receiver by impact (not necessarily stats)? I would think many in the league would say "yes". Now how about top-5? I might say yes, again (especially after Burnham leaving). If not top-5, he's close. And would you agree he's CFL top-1 NAT receiver? I would. Certainly top-2. Would you rather have Gittens? Not me. No one who wants to lump Demski in with middling-receivers has explained why so many teams' "keys to the game" in 2022 were "stop Demski". Not a single article was written in 2022 that said "stop Schoen", or "stop Ellingson". No, it was always "stop Demski". So, explain it if you want to convince me Demski==Bailey. Literally the only fault I can find for Demski at the moment is he's not a bruiser that can take the punishing catch across the middle flat (that's Bailey). But it's a minor quibble because he can blow you up in nearly every other way.
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« Reply #45 on: February 09, 2023, 01:39:19 PM » |
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Demski is top shelf as our offensive X-Factor. He's a running back who can catch the ball and beat coverage. His versatility is beyond compare and Buck uses his abilities to give our offence so many more options. The fact he's a Canadian AND.a Winnipeg boy just make him special as a player. No other team in the CFL can claim to have two native sons as legit all stars.....so yeah he's keyed on when it comes to stopping our O which opens up other receivers.....IE Schoen. If we get Schoen back and Agudosi our offence will be scary especially after signing Lawler. Who do you key on now if you're an opposition DC? We also have a legit 1000 yard Canadian RB who can catch the ball....then throw in Janarion Grant now and then on Jet sweeps. We are lucky to have Demski and I agree with Techno that he is worth every penny and was so happy he signed a long term deal with us!!!
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I'm trying hard to see it your way, and for moments I can say "ya ok" -- Demski an IMP == Bailey $$... But then I really think about it and I still think you are wrong. Taking the WPG out of it, taking the NAT out of it... Is Demski a CFL top-10 receiver by impact (not necessarily stats)? I would think many in the league would say "yes". Now how about top-5? I might say yes, again (especially after Burnham leaving). If not top-5, he's close.
And would you agree he's CFL top-1 NAT receiver? I would. Certainly top-2. Would you rather have Gittens? Not me.
No one who wants to lump Demski in with middling-receivers has explained why so many teams' "keys to the game" in 2022 were "stop Demski". Not a single article was written in 2022 that said "stop Schoen", or "stop Ellingson". No, it was always "stop Demski". So, explain it if you want to convince me Demski==Bailey.
Literally the only fault I can find for Demski at the moment is he's not a bruiser that can take the punishing catch across the middle flat (that's Bailey). But it's a minor quibble because he can blow you up in nearly every other way.
Kurleigh Gittens Jr. put up 1101 yards last year in his third season in the CFL and second season as a starter. Demski has been in the league 7 seasons and his best year was last year w/ 772. As for this notion that you remember articles and therefore he's worth more is strange logic. Who wrote the articles? Are you sure that that's proof that defensive coordinators would rather stop Demski over Schoen or Elliingson?
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« Reply #47 on: February 09, 2023, 05:38:17 PM » |
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Kurleigh Gittens Jr. put up 1101 yards last year in his third season in the CFL and second season as a starter. Demski has been in the league 7 seasons and his best year was last year w/ 772. As for this notion that you remember articles and therefore he's worth more is strange logic. Who wrote the articles? Are you sure that that's proof that defensive coordinators would rather stop Demski over Schoen or Elliingson?
Yeah, the idea of using beat reporters "keys to the game" as proof of a players' value doesn't do much for me. Demski will be our 4th option in our offence, behind Lawler, Schoen, and Brady. An incredibly valuable part of our offence, as we're a pretty balanced attack, but not the single most important player that teams plan around.
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Yeah, the idea of using beat reporters "keys to the game" as proof of a players' value doesn't do much for me.
Demski will be our 4th option in our offence, behind Lawler, Schoen, and Brady. An incredibly valuable part of our offence, as we're a pretty balanced attack, but not the single most important player that teams plan around.
Demski is a wild-card, always good to have one in your deck, he makes unexpected things happen.
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« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2023, 07:06:19 PM » |
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Demski is a wild-card, always good to have one in your deck, he makes unexpected things happen.
Yup, love him to death. Happy as a clam he's on our team.
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Kurleigh Gittens Jr. put up 1101 yards last year in his third season in the CFL and second season as a starter. Demski has been in the league 7 seasons and his best year was last year w/ 772. As for this notion that you remember articles and therefore he's worth more is strange logic. Who wrote the articles? Are you sure that that's proof that defensive coordinators would rather stop Demski over Schoen or Elliingson?
Gittens was in this REC Corps RK Date NAME Team GP REC ATT YARDS YAC AVG LG TD 30 1 2022 GITTENS JR., Kurleigh TOR 17 81 116 1101 483 13.6 70 5 4 2 2022 DANIELS, DaVaris TOR 15 61 85 860 257 14.1 54 4 6 3 2022 AMBLES, Markeith TOR 17 72 109 737 345 10.2 37 5 5 4 2022 BANKS, Brandon TOR 15 37 75 522 126 14.1 53 4 3 5 2022 PHILLIPS, Cameron TOR 11 38 60 515 205 13.6 55 3 3 Demski in this: RK Date NAME Team GP REC ATT YARDS YAC AVG LG TD 30 1 2022 SCHOEN, Dalton WPG 18 70 108 1441 368 20.6 81 16 12 2 2022 DEMSKI, Nic WPG 13 64 86 772 238 12.1 50 10 5 3 2022 BAILEY, Rasheed WPG 18 63 95 729 238 11.6 36 9 3 4 2022 ELLINGSON, Greg WPG 8 38 50 598 109 15.7 46 3 2 5 2022 WOLITARSKY, Drew WPG 14 36 49 471 84 13.1 41 1 2 Demski, in 4 fewer games, had twice the TD's, and 1 more 30+ catch... and 130 more rushing yards. I'm liking his all around game as well, including blocking, in the backfield and downfield. Not sure what Gittens does in that part of the game...
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« Reply #51 on: February 10, 2023, 04:09:42 AM » |
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Kurleigh Gittens Jr. put up 1101 yards last year in his third season in the CFL and second season as a starter. Demski has been in the league 7 seasons and his best year was last year w/ 772. As for this notion that you remember articles and therefore he's worth more is strange logic. Who wrote the articles? Are you sure that that's proof that defensive coordinators would rather stop Demski over Schoen or Elliingson?
Does Ed Tait just write our keys to the game out of his butt? Or does he get inside views and chats with players and DCs that we don't? Pretty sure during practices and chats Tait is nearby. He is paid by WFC, after all. I'm sure the other teams each have a similar guy. Those are the articles I was talking about. It's a fair point, and you could be right. But do you really think those reporters are ignorant to the reality, or not privy to the skinny? Depends on how much you value Ed Tait et al, I guess. Maybe all the house reporters just have a love-on for Demski!!  P.S. You skirted the yes/no questions: would you rather have Gittens or Demski? Quoting stats still doesn't answer the question. 
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« Reply #52 on: February 10, 2023, 12:49:49 PM » |
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Does Ed Tait just write our keys to the game out of his butt? Or does he get inside views and chats with players and DCs that we don't? Pretty sure during practices and chats Tait is nearby. He is paid by WFC, after all. I'm sure the other teams each have a similar guy. Those are the articles I was talking about. It's a fair point, and you could be right. But do you really think those reporters are ignorant to the reality, or not privy to the skinny? Depends on how much you value Ed Tait et al, I guess. Maybe all the house reporters just have a love-on for Demski!!  P.S. You skirted the yes/no questions: would you rather have Gittens or Demski? Quoting stats still doesn't answer the question.  I didn't mean to skirt the question. For one, Ed Tait is an in-house reporter. He's not a coach and I don't believe coordinators read his articles for clues on how to defend the Bombers offence (but that's just me). I would rather have Gittens for a variety of reasons. He's a younger, more talented receiver for one. Demski is a great player in the Canadian context, a fine player overall, don't get me wrong. Not trying to slander the dude. He's from Winnipeg and resonates with fans and that's probably worth something too. I believe that a) his 10 TDs is an anomaly and won't be repeated; and b) as a sub 1000 yard receiver he is very much in the 'fine' but not 'premier' class when it comes to receivers overall. I think $190,000 is an overpay for the production and there's no way he gets close to that without the right passport.
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« Reply #53 on: February 10, 2023, 03:14:06 PM » |
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I didn't mean to skirt the question. For one, Ed Tait is an in-house reporter. He's not a coach and I don't believe coordinators read his articles for clues on how to defend the Bombers offence (but that's just me). I would rather have Gittens for a variety of reasons. He's a younger, more talented receiver for one. Demski is a great player in the Canadian context, a fine player overall, don't get me wrong. Not trying to slander the dude. He's from Winnipeg and resonates with fans and that's probably worth something too. I believe that a) his 10 TDs is an anomaly and won't be repeated; and b) as a sub 1000 yard receiver he is very much in the 'fine' but not 'premier' class when it comes to receivers overall. I think $190,000 is an overpay for the production and there's no way he gets close to that without the right passport.
Gittens as a pure WR probably has the edge, sure. But that's not all Demski brings, and the other aspects make him well worth the SMS$ spend. Rather have Sayles, Couture or Demski? Demski will make a bigger impact, and is the same or less SMS$ We got good value in the Demski contract, and getting it on paper for 3years, doubly so.
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« Reply #54 on: February 10, 2023, 03:23:55 PM » |
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Demski is more of a gadget/hybrid receiver, where Gittens is more of a traditional receiver. As a pure receiver, Gittens has the advantage. As a versatile receiver, Demski has the advantage. Their NAT status is a wash. Both are back-to-back all-stars; also a wash.
Demski and Gittens are pretty hard to compare apples to apples, IMO.
Also: stats alone don't tell the whole story.
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« Reply #55 on: February 10, 2023, 05:41:21 PM » |
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Demski is more of a gadget/hybrid receiver, where Gittens is more of a traditional receiver. As a pure receiver, Gittens has the advantage. As a versatile receiver, Demski has the advantage. Their NAT status is a wash. Both are back-to-back all-stars; also a wash.
Demski and Gittens are pretty hard to compare apples to apples, IMO.
Also: stats alone don't tell the whole story.
Unfortunately, they don't keep stats on blocking... or on drawing coverage... or on breaking coverage... things Demski does that do not show up on a stats sheet...
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« Reply #56 on: February 10, 2023, 08:53:20 PM » |
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I think Nic Demski is our #3 receiver only because Lawler and Schoen are so uber talented.
I am also very intrigued and hopeful for Agudosi, but we shouldn't use the superficial stats against Demski and then at the same time pump Agudosi up based on the 1 or 2 games or whatever where he was actually healthy. If Nic were healthy all year, his 772 yards in 13 games extrapolates to over 1000 in a season if folks are still using that as the main benchmark these days.
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« Reply #57 on: February 11, 2023, 01:49:41 AM » |
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Ed Tait is an in-house reporter. He's not a coach and I don't believe coordinators read his articles for clues on how to defend the Bombers offence (but that's just me). I would rather have Gittens for a variety of reasons.
You got it backwards, again. It's not that DCs read their house reporter for ideas, it's that their house reporter gets to hear and watch their DCs. So whoever is the house reporter in SSK sees their team and DC talk and plan around Demski and then goes and writes their "Keys To The Game" and says Demski is a key. Again, see my Tait example. Is Tait just a lucky fan who gets a cushy gig writing made up nonsense from his imagination sitting in his basement all day all summer long, or is he an "insider" present at IGF who is allowed to spill some of the beans to us fans?
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« Reply #58 on: February 11, 2023, 01:54:38 AM » |
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You got it backwards, again. It's not that DCs read their house reporter for ideas, it's that their house reporter gets to hear and watch their DCs. So whoever is the house reporter in SSK sees their team and DC talk and plan around Demski and then goes and writes their "Keys To The Game" and says Demski is a key.
Again, see my Tait example. Is Tait just a lucky fan who gets a cushy gig writing made up nonsense from his imagination sitting in his basement all day all summer long, or is he an "insider" present at IGF who is allowed to spill some of the beans to us fans?
Okay, have it your way. Demski went into negotiations citing the number of times he was covered in Ed Tait's "keys to the game" segment.
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« Reply #59 on: February 11, 2023, 01:56:42 AM » |
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« Reply #60 on: February 11, 2023, 02:00:33 AM » |
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Okay, have it your way. Demski went into negotiations citing the number of times he was covered in Ed Tait's "keys to the game" segment.
Argh, you got it backwards again! It's the other-teams' house reporters touting Demski! Argh But thank you, I'll take the W  Oh you 2 LOL
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