Dalton Schoen working our for Vikes...

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Dalton was great for us but was particularly effective during scramble rules. With Collaros there were a ton of those opportunities. In the NFL you can't make a living off of that so he needs to win with route running, size and/or speed and I'm not sure he's capable of that.

[GOLDMEMBER]

Still a ways to go but I am leaning toward the return of Dalton Schoen to the Bombers in 2023.

I hope your leaning is correct!

[Lincoln Locomotive]

I hope your leaning is correct!

[BLUEBOMBER]

It's a pity that many CFL players get poached by the NFL if they have 1 or 2 good seasons up here.  It's the nature of sports I guess...

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

It's a pity that many CFL players get poached by the NFL if they have 1 or 2 good seasons up here.  It's the nature of sports I guess...

....and they usually don't go on to accomplish anything noteworthy in the NFL, their playing careers become easily forgotten.

[DM83]

Their football careers may dry up, but making half a million a yr., and hanging out with the guys, sure beats working!

[TecnoGenius]

....and they usually don't go on to accomplish anything noteworthy in the NFL, their playing careers become easily forgotten.

Zylstra has entered the chat.  (And Walker, and Duke, and ...)

I too think that Schoen doesn't really fit the mold of what the NFL wants.  He's not super fast, nor super big.  He doesn't lay out for balls.  His routes are so-so+.  What he does have is an incredible nose for the ball, football IQ of what the QB needs at that moment, a great sense of the coverage and its weakness, and great scramble rules instincts.  And good hands.  And like Bailey, he can take a hit and hang on.

We shouldn't rule out the possibility that he also has some special chemistry with Zach that he might not necessarily have with another team/QB.  Ellingson also had that great chemistry with Zach before his early-season injury.  Ellingson looked like he did 6 years ago.

[GOLDMEMBER]

Zylstra has entered the chat.  (And Walker, and Duke, and ...)

I too think that Schoen doesn't really fit the mold of what the NFL wants.  He's not super fast, nor super big.  He doesn't lay out for balls.  His routes are so-so+.  What he does have is an incredible nose for the ball, football IQ of what the QB needs at that moment, a great sense of the coverage and its weakness, and great scramble rules instincts.  And good hands.  And like Bailey, he can take a hit and hang on.

We shouldn't rule out the possibility that he also has some special chemistry with Zach that he might not necessarily have with another team/QB.  Ellingson also had that great chemistry with Zach before his early-season injury.  Ellingson looked like he did 6 years ago.

I agree but he is a better route runner than you describe. He is actually a great route runner for CFL standards and needs.

[theaardvark]

....and they usually don't go on to accomplish anything noteworthy in the NFL, their playing careers become easily forgotten.

Alex Singleton says "Hi"

[TecnoGenius]

Alex Singleton says "Hi"

Has Singleton petered out in the NFL now?  It was 2 or 4 years back I was watching him start a few NFL games and was looking very good indeed.  Busting up O's and the NFL commentators were loathe to give him cred and/or mention the CFL in a positive light.

Too bad he didn't stay in the CFL, I think he could have eventually gotten as good as Solly.

[Jesse]

Has Singleton petered out in the NFL now?  It was 2 or 4 years back I was watching him start a few NFL games and was looking very good indeed.  Busting up O's and the NFL commentators were loathe to give him cred and/or mention the CFL in a positive light.

Too bad he didn't stay in the CFL, I think he could have eventually gotten as good as Solly.

He has not petered out at all. He would be a one man wrecking crew if he was still here.

[GOLDMEMBER]

Has Singleton petered out in the NFL now?  It was 2 or 4 years back I was watching him start a few NFL games and was looking very good indeed.  Busting up O's and the NFL commentators were loathe to give him cred and/or mention the CFL in a positive light.

Too bad he didn't stay in the CFL, I think he could have eventually gotten as good as Solly.

not at all in fact he has carved out quite a nice year with the Denver Broncos I believe.

[Lincoln Locomotive]

Remember Cameron Wake who used to play for BC and also excelled in the NFL?   He was also a freak of nature in a Willie Jefferson kind of way

[Jesse]

Remember Cameron Wake who used to play for BC and also excelled in the NFL?   He was also a freak of nature in a Willie Jefferson kind of way

Best defensive player we've probably ever seen in the CFL. He was unstoppable.

[Pigskin]

Dalton may not be as effective without the running start he gets in the CFL.