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« on: November 21, 2022, 02:13:26 PM »

I haven't been around as a superfan for nearly as long as some of you but I can say that for the majority of my superfandom the Bombers have absolutely stunk.

I threw a modest Grey Cup party yesterday and once everyone was leaving (shortly after the clock hit 0:00...couldn't bear to watch any ceremonies and had overtired kiddos), as I walked up the stairs it occurred to me that every year for....15/16+ years I either host or attend some sort of GC party, and that faaaarrrr more often than not, not only were the Bombers not playing in that game, but they missed the playoffs and were never even in the conversation of being contenders. What a wild ride of having 3 seasons in a row, hosting that party with the Bombers in the game! My rec room is a complete disaster and it was so much fun regardless of the outcome.

I hate the way it was played and the way it ended but man this regime is an absolute treat to watch, not just per game, but seasons strung together. The hot July games baking in the sun on a Friday night to the raw, frozen hands clapping as we host playoff games in November at IGF. This is still far and away the golden years of my fandom.

The best part: before this winning streak, our other GC appearances in 2007 and 2011 (both losses) were followed by so much hope going into the next year and then in both 2008 and 2012 we fell FLAT on our faces for years afterward. This time, I think it's different. No way the Mafia accepts losing and they will be right back to work ensuring that my party next year is made extra special by the Bombers being in it again.

Anyway, I normally find it kind of annoying when people make threads following a loss of "well that sucked but we should all be grateful" but I just had to get this off my chest to explain why I'm feeling oddly fine today. If anything, I am sad now only because Bomber season is over and we have to wait another 6 months through the cold long winter without them.

I guess winning in 2019 and then in 2021 really broke the jadedness for me, and I'm happy that I can enjoy being a fan on a more sane and level-headed way now that we are perennial contenders and not the embarrassment of the league.

Thanks for another incredible season!!!
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2022, 02:36:06 PM »

Awesome post man, I could not agree more. Heck I just saw the 2 time defending champions in the game live. What a great experience this all was. Saskatchewan can eat our shorts now for quite some time. Cheesy

No more Blue Bomber football is never a good thing. Cannot wait till next year.
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2022, 02:36:28 PM »

I haven't been around as a superfan for nearly as long as some of you but I can say that for the majority of my superfandom the Bombers have absolutely stunk.

I threw a modest Grey Cup party yesterday and once everyone was leaving (shortly after the clock hit 0:00...couldn't bear to watch any ceremonies and had overtired kiddos), as I walked up the stairs it occurred to me that every year for....15/16+ years I either host or attend some sort of GC party, and that faaaarrrr more often than not, not only were the Bombers not playing in that game, but they missed the playoffs and were never even in the conversation of being contenders. What a wild ride of having 3 seasons in a row, hosting that party with the Bombers in the game! My rec room is a complete disaster and it was so much fun regardless of the outcome.

I hate the way it was played and the way it ended but man this regime is an absolute treat to watch, not just per game, but seasons strung together. The hot July games baking in the sun on a Friday night to the raw, frozen hands clapping as we host playoff games in November at IGF. This is still far and away the golden years of my fandom.

The best part: before this winning streak, our other GC appearances in 2007 and 2011 (both losses) were followed by so much hope going into the next year and then in both 2008 and 2012 we fell FLAT on our faces for years afterward. This time, I think it's different. No way the Mafia accepts losing and they will be right back to work ensuring that my party next year is made extra special by the Bombers being in it again.

Anyway, I normally find it kind of annoying when people make threads following a loss of "well that sucked but we should all be grateful" but I just had to get this off my chest to explain why I'm feeling oddly fine today. If anything, I am sad now only because Bomber season is over and we have to wait another 6 months through the cold long winter without them.

I guess winning in 2019 and then in 2021 really broke the jadedness for me, and I'm happy that I can enjoy being a fan on a more sane and level-headed way now that we are perennial contenders and not the embarrassment of the league.

Thanks for another incredible season!!!

Thanks for starting this, i was thinking the same thing just didn?t post it.  Though this one stings, the sting faded away quickly for me.  Great season, great team, great regime, and the fact that they are all pissed right now from losing will make next year a great one too.  I have no doubt this team wins a few more under O?Shea/Walters/Miller, now lets just get O?Shea extended.
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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2022, 02:44:44 PM »

Good post. I'm obviously bummed about the result, but 2019 and 2021 both take some of the sting away. If it had been 10 years or more since our last GC win then it would be a different story.
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2022, 03:00:13 PM »

I am super bummed because there were so many opportunities to grab the victory and we just couldn?t do it.

But last night and on the drive hope, most of what we?re talking about is how next season we have the opportunity to be even better.

So here?s to 16-2 and three Cups in four years.
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2022, 03:15:12 PM »

I just want to echo these statements... we've got to watch this team win 2 grey cups and go to a third.... keeping us entertained the entire time. The third would have been great but to tell you the truth i dont feel bummed out as I'd thought I be. More like grateful for all the great performances we've seen and felt a part of! Bring on 2023.
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2022, 03:19:50 PM »

We are also disappointed because the game was there for us to win. But as I told the kids after the game, no team in any sport can stay the champions forever.
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2022, 03:26:04 PM »

I am super bummed because there were so many opportunities to grab the victory and we just couldn?t do it.

But last night and on the drive hope, most of what we?re talking about is how next season we have the opportunity to be even better.

So here?s to 16-2 and three Cups in four years.
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2022, 03:45:10 PM »

Should have had it after the punt return. Just needed to make a few first downs but called a few bad plays . still could have done it in  the last few secs but underthrew a pass where prob someone else was open
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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2022, 04:41:15 PM »

Good post. I'm obviously bummed about the result, but 2019 and 2021 both take some of the sting away. If it had been 10 years or more since our last GC win then it would be a different story.

This especially^ If this loss was in 2019 to extend the drought I'd be seething mad, especially losing by only 1. However, since the Bombers just won 2 in a row, by 10:00pm last night I was over it and happy with another great season of football. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2022, 04:57:19 PM »

Losing in an exciting, but error filled game is a downer, for sure.  This is not a prototypical MOS Bomber game by any stretch.

Not sure why, not sure is the Collaros health issue made them make the errors, or if there were other health issues we don't know about, but regardless, we lost by a point on a blocked FG attempt.

This was not a blowout, or a reason to panic.

Errors were made, we have an offseason to address them and prevent it from happening again.

And then continue our dominance and start a new GC streak.

"Unfinished business" is not a bad motivator for the 2023 season...

Hopefully we keep this core together, and cobble in a few new pieces.
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2022, 05:04:28 PM »

I feel the same way.

I've been a Bomber fan since 1971, and have seen more than my share of disappointments, and I have to say, yesterday's loss hurt a lot less than any other Grey Cup loss they've had since I've been watching.

Maybe it's because they'd won the last two. Maybe it's because, realistically, they're still likely to be very, very good for at least another couple of years. Sometimes bad things just happen, all at once, in a single game, and yesterday was one of those. It reminded me a lot of the game against Montreal during the season.

Disappointing, yes...heartbreaking? Nah.
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2022, 05:23:19 PM »

I am super bummed because there were so many opportunities to grab the victory and we just couldn?t do it.

Agreed. So many opportunities to run away with that game and they faltered repeatedly.

What irks me most is that it had to be a loss to the Argonauts. That franchise sickens me.
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2022, 05:33:25 PM »

I'm totally fine! We lost but have gone to 3 Grey Cups, winning the first two. If you define your Bomber happiness on only winning Grey Cups you're going to be angry more often than not. Only one team can win and it's not always the best team. Ah well. We have another fantastic year to look forward to next year.
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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2022, 06:21:53 PM »

I'm totally fine! We lost but have gone to 3 Grey Cups, winning the first two. If you define your Bomber happiness on only winning Grey Cups you're going to be angry more often than not. Only one team can win and it's not always the best team. Ah well. We have another fantastic year to look forward to next year.

I'm not really shocked they lost as I always considered it a possibility, but the mad ride yesterday kept indicating they were going to find a way to pull it out of the fire once again, so the end result is disappointing.
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« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2022, 06:36:25 PM »

Stinging loss but be proud fellow BB fans!

We still have the great memories of b2b championships! And we represented the Bombers well at the game.
Cannot say the same thing about Argo & Rider fans. Far too many empty seats for a championship game!
Regina & the CFL should be thankful the b2b champs we?re in that game! It would have been an embarrassment otherwise!
 
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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2022, 09:38:42 PM »

I'm not really shocked they lost as I always considered it a possibility, but the mad ride yesterday kept indicating they were going to find a way to pull it out of the fire once again, so the end result is disappointing.

I was thinking that I almost (but not really) wish that the last couple minutes there where it felt like we flubbed and then got breaks to make winning a possibility didn't happen, just to save the final heartbreak!
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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2022, 10:36:50 PM »

I was thinking that I almost (but not really) wish that the last couple minutes there where it felt like we flubbed and then got breaks to make winning a possibility didn't happen, just to save the final heartbreak!
Darrin Bauming mentioned this in his Post Game show....it was like we were inexplicably given a few mulligans what with the facemasking call which negated a loss of downs deep in our end and the OC foul on Banks who chirped the ref on the no PI call near the goal line.    Then we blocked a FG attempt and were still down only a point with plenty of time to drive into FG range.  I was yelling at the TV screen to just keep pounding the rock on 2nd and 5 and then they knocked down the pass at the LoS!!   Ugh!!!   Brady was running the ball well at the time and one more running play also would have used up more clock time and even if we were short there was the option to go for another short 3rd down attempt eating up more of the clock and getting us closer to the end zone.
Doesn't matter a rats a$$ now though....but that's my take on it.

We were given several chances to rally back and then they made a play or was it even necessary as the I'll-fated FG attempt by Legghio didn't seem to be struck well from the get go.    Seemed to be low and wide left.
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« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2022, 03:10:57 AM »

Totally fine with it, even with how we lost it as I told my wife before the game started this was going to happen and also told her I wasn?t even going to freak out, and I didn?t. It was a close game and it came down to kicking and we?ll lose that one every time and we did. No big deal.
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« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2022, 05:38:34 AM »

What irks me most is that it had to be a loss to the Argonauts. That franchise sickens me.

Yes, strangely I find that to be one of the worst aspects of the loss.  I was so hoping HAM would be in it as I'm fine with them finally getting it.  Even if SSK had crossed over and won I'd be happier with it.  Literally any team than TOR.  Because TOR is the lucky horseshoe if-we-get-in-we-win team that rarely is the better/best team in the league.  And they've already won the most cups.

The only saving grace is I'm happy for AH33, I predicted this outcome in the pre-season: AH33 getting his revenge.  And I'm strangely happy for Henoc.  Maybe the dude balling his eyes out for 5 minutes straight made me feel for the guy.  I didn't realize it had been 11 years.  Both MVP/MOC?  Not sure about that, but good for the guy to finally get a cup.  And I'm strangely happy for Banks.  Maybe now he can retire.
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« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2022, 05:44:26 AM »

just keep pounding the rock on 2nd and 5 and then they knocked down the pass at the LoS!!   Ugh!!!   Brady was running the ball well at the time and one more running play also would have used up more clock time

We were given several chances to rally back and then they made a play or was it even necessary as the I'll-fated FG attempt by Legghio didn't seem to be struck well from the get go.    Seemed to be low and wide left.

Ya that was messed up.  But TOR was loading the box for a blitz and run blitz.  It was the wrong call.  Maybe a hitch screen, which we rarely do so would be unexpected would have been better.  TOR might have stuffed BO20 for only 1 or 2 yards.  We needed 4 to get within sneak distance.  Was 1 or 2 yards going to make the FG any easier (higher trajectory)?  No.  It was first down or bust.

The thing was, once we were in FG range, no way was MOS going to gamble on anything other than 3rd&1.

Zach should have pumpfaked.  He had the time.  I think that's why he was so mad immediately after.  He had a good pocket.  Fake and make the guy jump, then throw.

And yes, slowmo hints the kick might have gone a bit wide left.  But you never know with the spin and wind.  It was pretty good, not shanked.  It was only low because he needed the distance: I'm not concerned with the low.  Sayles blew the block, and Beadreau had braindead hoggie blocking package for a must-make no-chance-of-recovery who-cares-if-they-return-TD FG.  I'm going to touch on that in another thread if it hasn't been discussed to death.
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« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2022, 05:56:15 AM »

I just got home from Regina.  We took the day to poke around town and do things we don't normally get to do.  And then drive home in the mini-blizzard.  (When you can't use your brights because the snow is too darn heavy, it's a driving blizzard to me.)

I argee with OP.  Mostly.  I was perfectly fine at the moment.  Stunned more than anything.  I was fine chatting with fans doing the bus thing (orange line, took 1.5 hours, one of the last people!).

But next day driving around Regina the mini-depression hit me.  Just a numbness that we lost in such a manner.  We were weak all game in so many ways.  Losing to an inferior team: now I know how 2019 TiCats felt.  But I feel like we kind of deserved it, coming out like that with weak play and a weak plan and weak coaching.  Everything was just flat.

I got out of that funk pretty fast, and had fun the rest of Monday.  Got to my favorite places, and many new places, and spending great time with my son and driving my favorite car.  Life is good.

I feel sorry for the guys on the team, but for the vets with 1 or 2 rings, I bet they feel a lot like the fans do.  There's solace in the 2 rings, and knowing we have a good group, and we'll most likely be stronger next year for taking this on the chin.

I mention this every year: who has the hunger.  We weren't hungry.  We were complacent.  Some players made great plays, especially on D.  But our O was very flat, just like in the WDF.  TOR just made those hair's-width extra-effort plays more than we did.

TOR deserved to win, and I am fine with that.  And I'm super proud of our guys.  Super proud.  The best-season-ever and division win are good enough for me.  It just wasn't in the cards for the cup win.  This loss might be the thing to kick them in the butt to get that hunger back for the run next year.
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« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2022, 06:12:08 AM »

Upon Further Review | 109th Grey Cup

.....THE 'NOW WHAT?' QUESTIONS... will begin to be debated and analyzed by the Blue Bombers and management over the next few days in exit meetings and in the months ahead. There are some meaty issues to tackle, too, the biggest being head coach Mike O'Shea?s expiring contract.

Clearly the Blue Bombers have built something of substance here, with the two consecutive championships followed by a 15-3 record and then a loss in the championship game. But it?s a change business, as they say.

"Look around this locker room, you're going to see a good majority of familiar faces who are going to be back next year," said running back Brady Oliveira, tears welling in his eyes. "We know what we've got in this locker room. Guys want to come back and if we can keep these guys together that chemistry is already there, that confidence is already there, and it builds every season if there?s not a lot of turnaround.

"We've got the best quarterback in the league. We've got the best offensive line in the league. We've got great players all around who want to be back next year and make another run for the Grey Cup next year.

"They just made one more play than us and you've got to give them credit. They won the Grey Cup and that?s great, but we're going to use this as fuel to the fire. I know personally I'm going to attack this offseason. I hate this feeling."

That was a universal sentiment after months and months of early mornings, heavy workout sessions and eons of film work. One day, a handful of plays, and suddenly it ends with a devastating result.

"I see what these guys bring every single day," said linebacker Adam Bighill. "That's why I'm sad it didn't happen tonight, because I know guys have worked for it. I'm very proud of every single guy in this room. It's just tough we didn't pull through.".....


Read more on Further Review here!
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« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2022, 06:16:36 AM »

On the bright side... MOS's contract value just flattened vs what it would have been with a win!  I'm sure KW will pay him what he's worth.  And I'm sure MOS was never going to ask for the sun & moon & stars.  But now for sure he won't!  Wink
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« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2022, 04:03:09 PM »

Yes, strangely I find that to be one of the worst aspects of the loss.  I was so hoping HAM would be in it as I'm fine with them finally getting it.  Even if SSK had crossed over and won I'd be happier with it.  Literally any team than TOR.  Because TOR is the lucky horseshoe if-we-get-in-we-win team that rarely is the better/best team in the league.  And they've already won the most cups.

The only saving grace is I'm happy for AH33, I predicted this outcome in the pre-season: AH33 getting his revenge.  And I'm strangely happy for Henoc.  Maybe the dude balling his eyes out for 5 minutes straight made me feel for the guy.  I didn't realize it had been 11 years.  Both MVP/MOC?  Not sure about that, but good for the guy to finally get a cup.  And I'm strangely happy for Banks.  Maybe now he can retire.

It's just lame how that organization gets little to no attention in its home city unless it's in the big game. But the minute they are, it's non-stop ad nauseam about the "greatest" franchise in the CFL. The media for the most part has already moved on, with TSN caring more about the Leafs and their mounting blue line injuries. For such a storied franchise, all the Argonauts ever seem to get is conditional love - at best. I had honestly hoped the Alouettes would represent the East as I think the matchup would've been more entertaining.

Good for Harris getting another ring but I'm not sure I'd classify it as revenge. It's not like he ran roughshod the other night or was a factor in deciding the game. The Bombers made the right decision moving on from him and that's just the nature of the business in sports, regardless of how he feels or felt about it.

Muamba is the only feel good aspect for me. I'm glad he finally got his ring and adding MVP/MOC to his resume is pretty nice, too.

Banks can retire now. And good riddance.
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« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2022, 02:04:35 AM »

The is for this thread. I?m gutted. I get why ppl are feeling better than they thought they would. For me, the three peat meant dynasty, something I could tell my kids and grandkids about. It was so very close, despite us being outplayed. The seesaw of thinking it was over the on sack, after the blocked fg, seeing the face mask and big pass to Ellingson and five yard gain by Brady. I thought we had it. Just like last year. Then in an instant, it was over. I am of course super proud of the team and grateful for 2 cups. But three peat was there for the taking and as you know, you never know in sports if you?ll get back. Be it injuries, retirements, guys looking for more money, or just bad luck, you never know. I think we?ll see some turnover and perhaps Biggie, Thomas, and Hardrick showed their age. We make one more play we win, be it a tackle, catch, or kick. Tough to swallow. I?m sure the players feel a million times worse than me. We?ll definitely talk about it more on Bauming?s show.
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« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2022, 05:09:56 AM »

I'm just now feeling like the pain has subsided enough that I can make a post. It took a lot of alcohol to deaden that pain and I'm just now coming around. That game was an incredible roller coaster of emotion and my heart almost didn't survive it. The 1-point loss was crushing. The result a horrifying nightmare.

The way I see it, Zach's injury in the WF was an omen of things to come. Without his legs he had no zip on the ball and he couldn't scramble effectively. He was a sitting duck back there most of the night and the Argos knew it. The Argo pass rush kept pressuring our O-line and I was horrified to see them breaking through to pressure Zach as the game wore on.

The other thing that stands out for me is how Liegghio's performance reminded me of our first loss of the season to Montreal. It's horrifying when a kicker struggles like that and when he missed the first extra point in this game the tone was set. It could be argued that Liegghio cost us our undefeated streak earlier this year and then the Grey Cup. I'm not sure I'd be inviting him back to camp next year. It might be best for him and us if he went on to play elsewhere.

Losing sucks, period. Matters little to who but I will say losing to the Argos sucks hard! We are something like 0-7 in Grey Cups to that team over our history. I despise them and wanted to beat them so badly to end the Grey Cup drought. I'm hoping for a rematch and a serious Argo beat-down next year. We have unfinished business with that team now and if I know MOS and Wade Miller that's the way they'll be seeing it too, unfinished business.
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« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2022, 05:22:04 AM »

The way I see it, Zach's injury in the WF was an omen of things to come. Without his legs he had no zip on the ball and he couldn't scramble effectively. He was a sitting duck back there most of the night and the Argos knew it. The Argo pass rush kept pressuring our O-line and I was horrified to see them breaking through to pressure Zach as the game wore on.

The other thing that stands out for me is how Liegghio's performance reminded me of our first loss of the season to Montreal. It's horrifying when a kicker struggles like that and when he missed the first extra point in this game the tone was set. It could be argued that Liegghio cost us our undefeated streak earlier this year and then the Grey Cup. I'm not sure I'd be inviting him back to camp next year. It might be best for him and us if he went on to play elsewhere.

Losing sucks, period. Matters little to who but I will say losing to the Argos sucks hard! We are something like 0-7 in Grey Cups to that team over our history. I despise them and wanted to beat them so badly to end the Grey Cup drought. I'm hoping for a rematch and a serious Argo beat-down next year. We have unfinished business with that team now and if I know MOS and Wade Miller that's the way they'll be seeing it too, unfinished business.

Agreed on all points.  The Zach pressure isn't all on Zach/injury: Buck didn't do enough mixing it up to relieve the pressure.  TOR bet all their chips we'd stick to our tendencies, and we didn't disappoint.  Buck called such a vanilla game it wasn't even funny.  Run on 1st, pass on 2nd & long.  No draws.  Very few sweeps.  Not a single hitch screen I don't think.  And we didn't adjust!!  We also didn't run our 6-man OL package as much on the pass as we did in WDF.

Yes, the game smelled very much like the MTL loss.  Many similarities in plays and overall feeling.  Would we have won with Meddie?  Maybe.  Compare our kicking stats to TOR's: 10-20 less yards on every avg.  It adds up.  But Leggs did make more FGs, and that last screw-up isn't on him.  I'm fine keeping with developing Leggs.  If he can incrementally improve every year, he'll be good.  I like how MOS is planning around his capabilities: punting instead of FGing.  That's what we need while he's developing.

Rematch: you bet.  That is what will instill the needed hunger in our guys.  If we get a rematch it should be an epic beatdown.
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« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2022, 06:00:28 AM »

Actually, would not be surprised to see Bombers facing TO in the first regular season game next year. Often happens that way.
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« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2022, 03:16:09 PM »

The is for this thread. I?m gutted. I get why ppl are feeling better than they thought they would. For me, the three peat meant dynasty, something I could tell my kids and grandkids about. It was so very close, despite us being outplayed. The seesaw of thinking it was over the on sack, after the blocked fg, seeing the face mask and big pass to Ellingson and five yard gain by Brady. I thought we had it. Just like last year. Then in an instant, it was over. I am of course super proud of the team and grateful for 2 cups. But three peat was there for the taking and as you know, you never know in sports if you?ll get back. Be it injuries, retirements, guys looking for more money, or just bad luck, you never know. I think we?ll see some turnover and perhaps Biggie, Thomas, and Hardrick showed their age. We make one more play we win, be it a tackle, catch, or kick. Tough to swallow. I?m sure the players feel a million times worse than me. We?ll definitely talk about it more on Bauming?s show.
I don't know if this'll help, but the Bud Grant/Kenny Ploen Bombers never won three in a row, and they're still considered something of a dynasty, and possibly the greatest Bomber teams of all time. That works for me.

I think that if the Bombers can come back next year and win, the 2022 glitch in the Matrix won't mean that much in the long run.
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« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2022, 03:20:38 PM »

Actually, would not be surprised to see Bombers facing TO in the first regular season game next year. Often happens that way.

It'd make sense. Probably at BMO with a few thousand in attendance a whole lot of empty seats, though.
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« Reply #31 on: November 24, 2022, 04:46:42 PM »

It'd make sense. Probably at BMO with a few thousand in attendance a whole lot of empty seats, though.

Argo celebration, seems to be live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW5mZ_iXaeI&ab_channel=TorontoArgonauts
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« Reply #32 on: November 24, 2022, 05:07:54 PM »

It is terribly disappointing, but it's done, can't go back. Now the shift focuses to questions moving forward, who will replace Shoen, is Ellingson worth it, are a few of the guys longer in the tooth still able to perform at championship level, what do we do about our kicking game, do we roll with Leggs, do we bring in real competition against him, who can we re-sign and who will we lose, how many guys will make the NFL jump, can Jeffcoat really be counted on for a whole season, will Sayles continue to grow and flourish next year, will JT retire, if so is Lawson good enough to replace him etc. etc.

At the end of the day any day you wake up is a good day, time to look forward and not backwards, let's build the 2023 Bombers roster even deeper and more talented than the 2022 version.
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« Reply #33 on: November 24, 2022, 05:50:59 PM »


Good on fans for showing up to celebrate a championship...? That has absolutely nothing to do with the ongoing attendance issues at BMO Field in the league's most populous market, though.
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« Reply #34 on: November 26, 2022, 12:07:46 AM »

It is terribly disappointing, but it's done, can't go back. Now the shift focuses to questions moving forward, who will replace Shoen, is Ellingson worth it, are a few of the guys longer in the tooth still able to perform at championship level, what do we do about our kicking game, do we roll with Leggs, do we bring in real competition against him, who can we re-sign and who will we lose, how many guys will make the NFL jump, can Jeffcoat really be counted on for a whole season, will Sayles continue to grow and flourish next year, will JT retire, if so is Lawson good enough to replace him etc. etc.

At the end of the day any day you wake up is a good day, time to look forward and not backwards, let's build the 2023 Bombers roster even deeper and more talented than the 2022 version.

This will always be remembered by me as the season of unfulfilled promise. A 15-3 team capable of great things that ultimately fell short.

I dared to believe that the Miami Dolphins' undefeated season was going to be equalled by this Bomber team. After two seasons as Grey Cup champs and at 9-0 in the third I was riding high thinking that this team was unstoppable. That ended, twice, once in regulation and once in overtime, of the same game against Montreal. With an undefeated season on the line Liegghio missed two very makeable FGs to end that dream. Ripped my heart out.

Then of course, the third post-season missed extra point to deny us a chance in overtime for a 3-peat, Liegghio ripped my heart out again. I wonder if Scott Norwood called Liegghio after the game to let him know that there is life after football. In any event, Liegghio will always be the Bombers' Norwood to me.

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« Reply #35 on: November 26, 2022, 12:11:20 AM »

This will always be remembered by me as the season of unfulfilled promise. A 15-3 team capable of great things that ultimately fell short.

I dared to believe that the Miami Dolphins' undefeated season was going to be equalled by this Bomber team. After two seasons as Grey Cup champs and at 9-0 in the third I was riding high thinking that this team was unstoppable. That ended, twice, once in regulation and once in overtime, of the same game against Montreal. With an undefeated season on the line Liegghio missed two very makeable FGs to end that dream. Ripped my heart out.

Then of course, the third post-season missed extra point to deny us a chance in overtime for a 3-peat, Liegghio ripped my heart out again. I wonder if Scott Norwood called Liegghio after the game to let him know that there is life after football. In any event, Liegghio will always be the Bombers' Norwood to me.


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« Reply #36 on: November 26, 2022, 01:29:23 PM »

I don't know if this'll help, but the Bud Grant/Kenny Ploen Bombers never won three in a row, and they're still considered something of a dynasty, and possibly the greatest Bomber teams of all time. That works for me.

I think that if the Bombers can come back next year and win, the 2022 glitch in the Matrix won't mean that much in the long run.

Getting to the Grey Cup is never an easy thing. An injury to a key player can end a season's hope. If Rourke didn't get injured in Vancouver, they could have been in the Grey Cup. If Collaros didn't get nicked in the WDF he may have performed closer to 100%.

At this point in time, we only have expectations of retaining most of our roster. Reality is we won't know until shortly after free agency where we have holes to fill. The next rookie sensation is always on the horizon. Schoen was that player in 2022


Bud Grant didn't win 3 Grey Cups in a row but was in the top 2 teams from 1957 - 1965. Won a bunch and lost a couple. So it's not quite the same comparison. I think it's more difficult to maintain a constant roster like in the old days of small rosters and salary levels. Turnover is high every year across the CFL.
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« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2022, 01:47:50 PM »

Getting to the Grey Cup is never an easy thing. An injury to a key player can end a season's hope. If Rourke didn't get injured in Vancouver, they could have been in the Grey Cup. If Collaros didn't get nicked in the WDF he may have performed closer to 100%.

At this point in time, we only have expectations of retaining most of our roster. Reality is we won't know until shortly after free agency where we have holes to fill. The next rookie sensation is always on the horizon. Schoen was that player in 2022


Bud Grant didn't win 3 Grey Cups in a row but was in the top 2 teams from 1957 - 1965. Won a bunch and lost a couple. So it's not quite the same comparison. I think it's more difficult to maintain a constant roster like in the old days of small rosters and salary levels. Turnover is high every year across the CFL.

Completely agree. That is why this collapse was so devastating. I truly hope we come back next year but there are many reasons why it might not happen. Guys getting older, retirements, others chasing money. We?ll see. Harder these days for sure.
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« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2022, 03:41:11 AM »

We are good because our club is full of greatness top to bottom
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