Argos at Blue Bombers GREY CUP pregame thread

[GOLDMEMBER]

Lets do this 3-peat eh!

[The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB]

https://leaderpost.com/sports/football/cfl/grey-cup/rob-vanstone-more-mosaic-magic-awaits-winnipeg-blue-bombers

From the article:
Blue Bombers? losses over their last 41 games: Seven.
Roughriders? losses over their last seven games: Seven.

[BlueInCgy]

I guess there are worse places to play than IGF West (Mosaic).  It's getting harder and harder to beat up on Rider fans, because they do it so well to themselves.  Vanstones piece is a bunch of stabs at the Riders, and last weeks Craig Reynolds podcast interview could be summed up as "Do you realize how bad the Riders suck?" from every second question.  But they are not the topic of conversation here.

Lots of storylines coming into this one.

3 Peat - either for the BB or for AH
Speedy B - is fourth time a charm
Zach - can he go
MBT - is good or bad MBT going to show up
Special teams - last two GCs were won on the foot of established kickers.  We have a definite struggler this year.  Can he pull through?

It's in the best interest of the CFL for the Argos to win.  I'm not suggesting any bias there, it's simply fact.  A third win in a row for the Bombers does nothing for the league outside of Winnipeg.

Do the Argos deserve to be in the game?  Honestly, no, they are the beneficiaries of an antiquaited divisional system that has failed this year.  Both the Stamps and Lions are far more deserving than the Argos, and their only fault is they are in the same division as the Bombers.

Can the Argos win?  Absolutely.  Bombers losses that mattered this season came to teams worse than the Argos.  I'm less confident about our chances than I normally would be because my brain is equating MBT with Marcus Crandell.  But this teams discipline is much better than that, so hopefully that prevails.

How do I think it will go?  26-18 for the Bombers.

[bomb squad]

I guess there are worse places to play than IGF West (Mosaic).  It's getting harder and harder to beat up on Rider fans, because they do it so well to themselves.  Vanstones piece is a bunch of stabs at the Riders, and last weeks Craig Reynolds podcast interview could be summed up as "Do you realize how bad the Riders suck?" from every second question.  But they are not the topic of conversation here.

Lots of storylines coming into this one.

3 Peat - either for the BB or for AH
Speedy B - is fourth time a charm
Zach - can he go
MBT - is good or bad MBT going to show up
Special teams - last two GCs were won on the foot of established kickers.  We have a definite struggler this year.  Can he pull through?

It's in the best interest of the CFL for the Argos to win.  I'm not suggesting any bias there, it's simply fact.  A third win in a row for the Bombers does nothing for the league outside of Winnipeg.

Do the Argos deserve to be in the game?  Honestly, no, they are the beneficiaries of an antiquaited divisional system that has failed this year.  Both the Stamps and Lions are far more deserving than the Argos, and their only fault is they are in the same division as the Bombers.

Can the Argos win?  Absolutely.  Bombers losses that mattered this season came to teams worse than the Argos.  I'm less confident about our chances than I normally would be because my brain is equating MBT with Marcus Crandell.  But this teams discipline is much better than that, so hopefully that prevails.

How do I think it will go?  26-18 for the Bombers.

I have to disagree with you there. I think the Argonauts are at the same or close to same level as the Lions and Stamps.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I have to disagree with you there. I think the Argonauts are at the same or close to same level as the Lions and Stamps.

If Dru Brown starts the Argo DB's will feast, their secondary is the best in the league.

[The Zipp]

Argos has gotten better over the season..AJ Oulette is a beast

This is going to be a battle. 

[bwiser]

I'm worried the command center will be on the Argo's bench.

[3rdand1.5]

The big story will probably be AH vs. his old team.

Banks should have at least one hissy fit next week, AH will run angry, the question is will his body let him go full game. Oulette will feature predominately I would guess, he is very good with screens and swings. Gittens is very good and MBT can be great or terrible, who knows what MBT will show-up. The T.O defence is pretty darn good Henoc is very good, Mc Manis is really good, Davis etc. and they have a very opportunistic backfield. Zach will not get away with as many bad balls as he threw last week. His ankle may prevent him from being as mobile as he would like and T.O may be able to force him to stay in the pocket, Buck just might have to have a few wrinkles to work in with some mobility issues.

I believe we have the edge in coaching, Leggs has to play better no if's ands or buts about it, gifting teams 4 points is not acceptable and a minor miracle it didn't cost us the West Final. Grant muffed a bit, ball security is more important, he gifted BC 7 then got it back and scored 7 we got lucky but special teams needs to be more fundamentally sound. If our defence and Ritchie can game plan/play as well as we did against BC they will give us a chance to win. Saying that though our offence needs to play cleaner and or special needs to be much cleaner than last week.

IMO I don't see us winning on the big stage with making the same number of mistakes on specials and offence. luckily for us that's what we did last year, made mistakes in the West final and then cleaned it up the following week at the cup.

[GOLDMEMBER]

If Dru Brown starts the Argo DB's will feast, their secondary is the best in the league.

Is it? Better than ours? Better than Lions? Better than Calgarys? Hmmmm

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Is it? Better than ours? Better than Lions? Better than Calgarys? Hmmmm

The Argos lead the league in interceptions with 29, next best were the Lions and Stamps with 18, while the Bombers had 16.

[Horseman]

Over on Rider fan forum, they are hoping the Argos win. What pisses them off is that we are going for our 3rd GC in three years while the Riders only have 4 Grey Cup victories in 101 years!!!! Now that is funny, screw the disgruntled riders...GO BOMBERS GO!

[M.O.A.B.]

The Argos lead the league in interceptions with 29, next best were the Lions and Stamps with 18, while the Bombers had 16.

I believe we have a lot of pass knockdowns and could be the leader on that stats.

[GOLDMEMBER]

Over on Rider fan forum, they are hoping the Argos win. What pisses them off is that we are going for our 3rd GC in three years while the Riders only have 4 Grey Cup victories in 101 years!!!! Now that is funny, screw the disgruntled riders...GO BOMBERS GO!

those comments are par for the course. Did you think they were go cheer on the Blue Bombers in there own stadium? Lol, not me.

[Pigskin]

Looks like a little colder in Regina for the GC. -11 at kick off with a 10 km wind. -19 with the wind chill. make sure you bring your hand and boot warmers.

[dd]

The Argos lead the league in interceptions with 29, next best were the Lions and Stamps with 18, while the Bombers had 16.

Ya but those stats are misleading. How many times did the Argos play the bombers, Stamps and lions ie the top 3 teams in the league, and how many times did they play train wreck Hamilton and Ottawa?? They?re good, but I?d take our secondary over theirs any day of the week and twice on game day!!