Rutledge roster change

Started by TecnoGenius, October 12, 2022, 01:14:51 AM

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TecnoGenius

From the roster thread:

2022-10-11   WPG   RUTLEDGE, Donald   LB   A   Georgia Southern   Add To   Free Agent

What's up with that?  He was slotted behind Kramdi in the last game.  I saw a lot of Kramdi, did we see any Rutledge at all?

Roster thread seems to think the above line mean he's moved to PR (not released to FA as it looks).

Anyone have any info?  This is quite a surprise, to me at least.  We want Rutledge easing back in heading into the playoffs.

Could this mean:
1. Darby will start at SAM very soon, and not at DB (Holm's spot maybe) as speculated?
2. Rutledge is still injured and wasn't ready to play?

I hope Rutledge doesn't pull a Gaitor and get miffed and bugger off when we could still be needing him.
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I'd take this to indicate he's moved to the PR. That seems a big negative step. Yes Darby is likely to be starting at SAM but I wouldn't have thought Rutledge would be moved to PR. Who is now the back up at SAM? If Thompson is healthy it might be him?

Regardless moving Rutledge to the PR and not the 1 game IR is alarming.

Also, Hassell and Karamoko also released probably back to PR.

Karamoko effectively replaced a Canadian that we didn't have as a healthy choice. So we should see another Canadian added back to the AR this week. Could be Woli, Noah Hallett or Thompson.

Hassell coming off suggests Lawrence as the one to replace him? He shows on the AR at the moment.

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TecnoGenius

I guess this is a nod to Kramdi that he proved capable of holding down SAM in a pinch?

Strange roster moves ahead of the "pointless" BC game.  Instead of moving #2's and #3's to PR, I'd be bringing all the #3's in to start!!  I thought this would be an awesome time to see what Hassell has as a DB!

I guess this hints we'll be starting our normal lineup in a few days.  Hopefully MOS is wise enough to still pull most of them early.  I can't believe we're going to play this game like it's any other?

Study and learn from The Huffer.  He never played BLM more than 1Q in garbage-season.
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Coach Hall said Rutledge hit the wall.  Sometimes rookies who have never played more than 10 game seasons have this happen.  Rutledge's minor injury might have been a catalyst for it all catching up with him.

Darby can play that position at all star level, so it all works out.  Let Rutledge rest and regroup on the PR, and call him up if needed.  He will learn from this, and use his off season to prepare for the pro grind, and he will be our starting SAM next year.
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Quote from: Blue In BC on October 12, 2022, 02:05:05 AM
I'd take this to indicate he's moved to the PR. That seems a big negative step. Yes Darby is likely to be starting at SAM but I wouldn't have thought Rutledge would be moved to PR. Who is now the back up at SAM? If Thompson is healthy it might be him?

Regardless moving Rutledge to the PR and not the 1 game IR is alarming.

Also, Hassell and Karamoko also released probably back to PR.

Karamoko effectively replaced a Canadian that we didn't have as a healthy choice. So we should see another Canadian added back to the AR this week. Could be Woli, Noah Hallett or Thompson.

Hassell coming off suggests Lawrence as the one to replace him? He shows on the AR at the moment.



Thompson is probably out for the rest of the season, so I don't think it will be him. He was on crutches last week at practice. Was having a very tough time getting around.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 12, 2022, 02:19:04 AM
I guess this is a nod to Kramdi that he proved capable of holding down SAM in a pinch?

Strange roster moves ahead of the "pointless" BC game.  Instead of moving #2's and #3's to PR, I'd be bringing all the #3's in to start!!  I thought this would be an awesome time to see what Hassell has as a DB!

I guess this hints we'll be starting our normal lineup in a few days.  Hopefully MOS is wise enough to still pull most of them early.  I can't believe we're going to play this game like it's any other?

Study and learn from The Huffer.  He never played BLM more than 1Q in garbage-season.


I wouldn't read too much into it, there is still plenty of time to juggle the roster before the playoffs begin, if Rutledge is still sitting on the PR at the end of the season that would leave him an unprotected F.A. which would be a shame as they invested a lot of time in his development this year and he looks to have a promising future.  It all comes down to numbers, they can't keep everyone on their PR and they only have so much time left to figure out who they want to protect for next season.

Pigskin

Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 12, 2022, 01:14:51 AM
From the roster thread:

2022-10-11   WPG   RUTLEDGE, Donald   LB   A   Georgia Southern   Add To   Free Agent

What's up with that?  He was slotted behind Kramdi in the last game.  I saw a lot of Kramdi, did we see any Rutledge at all?

Roster thread seems to think the above line mean he's moved to PR (not released to FA as it looks).

Anyone have any info?  This is quite a surprise, to me at least.  We want Rutledge easing back in heading into the playoffs.

Could this mean:
1. Darby will start at SAM very soon, and not at DB (Holm's spot maybe) as speculated?
2. Rutledge is still injured and wasn't ready to play?

I hope Rutledge doesn't pull a Gaitor and get miffed and bugger off when we could still be needing him.


Rutledge played on teams all night.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Pigskin on October 12, 2022, 04:14:49 AM
Rutledge played on teams all night.

Ya, I'm seeing that on rewatch.  But I'm more interested to know if he was ever spelling Kramdi on D.

Instead of PR him, dress him the final game and have him stub his toe.  Won't he get a ring on the IR?  Be a shame if he's our very good SAM all year but gets shafted on the ring (let alone the playoff cheques).

Whether Maston has any hope of ever playing again may play into our plans for Rutledge in FA.  And I'm not positive Darby will be more than a rental.  Ideally we'd have 2 of these 3 guys on the roster in 2023.  Rutledge may be the cheapest, and certainly capable of playing the spot.
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It's just another first year player who's had his trial by fire. We liked him because he made some plays early in the season, but he has frequently been pulled form the field over the course of the season, most people just don't notice unless you're looking for it.

Just like Houston/Leggs last season, and Parker this season, he's getting coached up and will be playing at an all-star level next year.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 12, 2022, 05:00:06 AM
Ya, I'm seeing that on rewatch.  But I'm more interested to know if he was ever spelling Kramdi on D.

Instead of PR him, dress him the final game and have him stub his toe.  Won't he get a ring on the IR?  Be a shame if he's our very good SAM all year but gets shafted on the ring (let alone the playoff cheques).

Whether Maston has any hope of ever playing again may play into our plans for Rutledge in FA.  And I'm not positive Darby will be more than a rental.  Ideally we'd have 2 of these 3 guys on the roster in 2023.  Rutledge may be the cheapest, and certainly capable of playing the spot.


I saw him sub in for Kramdi at least a few times, probably more than I noticed.  Players left on the PR do not receive rings or playoff bonuses, so it needs to be managed carefully.

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Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 12, 2022, 02:42:39 PM
I saw him sub in for Kramdi at least a few times, probably more than I noticed.  Players left on the PR do not receive rings or playoff bonuses, so it needs to be managed carefully.

Didn't know that. Is that true?

Blue In BC

Quote from: Pigskin on October 12, 2022, 04:12:43 AM
Thompson is probably out for the rest of the season, so I don't think it will be him. He was on crutches last week at practice. Was having a very tough time getting around.

Ok, that would make sense. What doesn't make sense is why neither Thompson or Taylor on the 6 game IR instead of the 1 game IR. For that matter Clements has missed the last 6 games and hasn't practised at all. So same question for him.

If a player is injured to the point of knowing he won't be able to return this season, why would you not make the roster adjustment to shelter the SMS hit?  That's definitely true in the case of Taylor. Possibly less a known situation for Clements or Thompson but that would seem to be the case.

In any case a player can be removed early so where is the risk of 6 game IR when a player is not able to practice for several weeks?
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Quote from: Blue In BC on October 12, 2022, 03:56:18 PM
Ok, that would make sense. What doesn't make sense is why neither Thompson or Taylor on the 6 game IR instead of the 1 game IR. For that matter Clements has missed the last 6 games and hasn't practised at all. So same question for him.

If a player is injured to the point of knowing he won't be able to return this season, why would you not make the roster adjustment to shelter the SMS hit?  That's definitely true in the case of Taylor. Possibly less a known situation for Clements or Thompson but that would seem to be the case.

In any case a player can be removed early so where is the risk of 6 game IR when a player is not able to practice for several weeks?

I can't remember the last time Walters made an appearance, he should have some kind of press conference soon though as he usually has two per season, these would be good questions for a reporter to ask him.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 12, 2022, 03:56:18 PM
Ok, that would make sense. What doesn't make sense is why neither Thompson or Taylor on the 6 game IR instead of the 1 game IR. For that matter Clements has missed the last 6 games and hasn't practised at all. So same question for him.

Maybe when there are less than 6 games left there is no point (no savings)?  Maybe 1GIR lets them still practice to keep evaluating?  Taylor won't be doing anything at practice, but Thompson might.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 12, 2022, 08:29:33 PM
Maybe when there are less than 6 games left there is no point (no savings)?  Maybe 1GIR lets them still practice to keep evaluating?  Taylor won't be doing anything at practice, but Thompson might.


with his crutches  ;D