Injuries

[theaardvark]

Sounds like Taylor is out for the season as well...  looks like about 1/3 of our proposed starting O/D are injured.

Yikes


1-Game Injured List
NO            NAME   POS    A/N/G    HT    WT    AGE    COLLEGE
0       Clements, Malik    LB    A    6'0    224    26    Cincinnati
23       Hallett, Noah    DB    N    6'0    191    25    McMaster
3       Hansen, Thiadric    DE    G    6'2    250    29    
94       Jeffcoat, Jackson    DE    A    6'3    243    31    Texas
9       Taylor, Nick    DB    A    5'9    181    34    Florida International
82       Wolitarsky, Drew    WR    N    6'2    227    27    Minnesota

6-Game Injured List
NO            NAME   POS    A/N/G    HT    WT    AGE    COLLEGE
86       Agudosi, Carlton    WR    A    6'6    220    28    Rutgers
2       Ellingson, Greg    WR    A    6'3    211    33    Florida International
35       Houston, Demerio    DB    A    5'10    169    26    Southern University
7       Maston, Mercy    DB    A    6'0    210    29    Boise State
39       Rene, Patrice    DB    N    6'2    206    24    Rutgers
60       Richmond, Drew    OL    A    6'5    301    26    USC
19       Wilson, Kyrie    LB    A    6'1    221    29    Fresno State

[Pigskin]

This game will be the 6th game missed for GE2. Would be nice to see him back at practice next week.

Clements is a mystery?

[Pete]

Has anyone heard anything about Clements recovery? I don't think i've even seen him on the sidelines as we have with Wilson.

[pjrocksmb]

Some great players on these lists

[Pigskin]

I really like what we have done the last couple of weeks with our roster. We addressed some needs and, and now have some depth at most positions. Get back a few players from our IR and we are looking good for the playoffs.

[DM83]

For a public ally owned team injury info should be released earlier.
Not me, but some people net in these games

Like what is wrong with Ellington?  I mean I had a hip pointer and I was out for four weeks. So is he coming back or not?
And Wolitarski?  Was it torn ligaments and how bad? Same with Jefferson.

[GOLDMEMBER]

Unscathed tonight?

[BLUEBOMBER]

The Bombers can't afford to have anyone else injured.  Our Defence is already quite depleted as it is now.

[Pigskin]

We have lots of time to rest players now.

[TecnoGenius]

Unscathed tonight?

Demski was looking uncomfortable and limping a bit midway through after a sweep or hitch to the right and the D did a good twisty-leggy tackle on him.  But he stayed in all game (I think?) and didn't seem the worse for wear.

Zach had his bell rung on that almost-sack blindside whack.  I was a bit worried command was going to pull him.  But he also trooped on and seemed fine.

Oh ya, a hitch screen to Bailey where he got blown up also seemed to really jar him.  But he continued on.  Someone downfield missed his block or didn't hold enough...

EDM lost Brown right at the half and he never came back.  Any faint hope they had died with him.  Good thing I did pick him in fantasy this week. 

[TecnoGenius]

We have lots of time to rest players now.

You better believe it.  Forget rest vs rust.  I'm resting everyone who needs it and if not, the #1's only get a quarter a game (or less!!).  No chances.  Period.  Most of these guys will be going to their 3rd GC in a row, they don't need more reps.

[Blue In BC]

I expect some changes for this weeks roster going to Vancouver. As has been expressed, some of our vets could use a week off to recover from lingering issues. Small rosters make this somewhat complicated.

That said we might have a couple of players capable of returning from IR that need some live game reps.

What I'm really expecting is the possible activation of  2 or 3 players from the PR. A few in particular comes to mind. It depends on what happens with the IR players and any new injuries as the starting point.

One question might be whether Richmond is capable of returning ( as an example ) from the season long IR status. Team seems to believe in his abilities and if has been " in reserve " and could play, this might be the game to activate him. Both Bryant and Hardrick have some lingering injuries.

I don't directly have any insight and he might not even be in the consideration to play in 2022. Perhaps Lofton might be in the equation as a 2nd choice on the OL. OTOH, we might just start 4 Canadian OL with either Bryant or Hardrick on the roster but not starting?

Massie could be a player I wouldn't mind getting a look at. Again this depends on whether Jeffcoat is healthy or whether he sits one more week. I want to see one more week from Adams but giving Jefferson a week off starting ( not necessarily off the AR ). The catch there is do we remove another DI in order to do something like that?

Aside from that I don't really see who might be PR choices to activate.

Because we have 1st place locked up, we might not activate anyone off the IR. With the bye they'd have another two weeks before the last game against the Lions to practice etc etc.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I expect some changes for this weeks roster going to Vancouver. As has been expressed, some of our vets could use a week off to recover from lingering issues. Small rosters make this somewhat complicated.

That said we might have a couple of players capable of returning from IR that need some live game reps.

What I'm really expecting is the possible activation of  2 or 3 players from the PR. A few in particular comes to mind. It depends on what happens with the IR players and any new injuries as the starting point.

One question might be whether Richmond is capable of returning ( as an example ) from the season long IR status. Team seems to believe in his abilities and if has been " in reserve " and could play, this might be the game to activate him. Both Bryant and Hardrick have some lingering injuries.

I don't directly have any insight and he might not even be in the consideration to play in 2022. Perhaps Lofton might be in the equation as a 2nd choice on the OL. OTOH, we might just start 4 Canadian OL with either Bryant or Hardrick on the roster but not starting?

Massie could be a player I wouldn't mind getting a look at. Again this depends on whether Jeffcoat is healthy or whether he sits one more week. I want to see one more week from Adams but giving Jefferson a week off starting ( not necessarily off the AR ). The catch there is do we remove another DI in order to do something like that?

Aside from that I don't really see who might be PR choices to activate.

Because we have 1st place locked up, we might not activate anyone off the IR. With the bye they'd have another two weeks before the last game against the Lions to practice etc etc.

Agree on all points, now is the time to audition players for next season and see if they're worth hanging onto.  All players left on the PR become F.A.'s at the end of the year.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

You better believe it.  Forget rest vs rust.  I'm resting everyone who needs it and if not, the #1's only get a quarter a game (or less!!).  No chances.  Period.  Most of these guys will be going to their 3rd GC in a row, they don't need more reps.

Have to be careful managing the rust, Collaros threw 3 interceptions and they turned the ball over 6 times in the W.F. against Sask. last year, luckily they made no hay.  Make half that many mistakes against the Stamps and they will capitalize and bury them.

[Tee42]

Rust is real.  I am not a fan of long breaks. We have 2 weeks off coming up. 

[GOLDMEMBER]

Rust is real.  I am not a fan of long breaks. We have 2 weeks off coming up. 

would you rather have a little rust or completely not available to play?

[pjrocksmb]

Collaros will look fine if we rest him.  A wee bit of rust comes off quick.  Better to be rested and a wee bit rusty then fresh and nicked.

[Jesse]

would you rather have a little rust or completely not available to play?

Cuz it?s one or the other?

It is 5 weeks between meaningful games. You need to keep the guys engaged and in their routines.

[TecnoGenius]

Can BC or CGY clinch second before the last week?  It would be nice if at least our final BC game was meaningless for both teams.  I don't want to play our #1 or #2 team against a hungry BC that final game.

We need to hope either BC or CGY pulls ahead in the next 1 or 2 weeks.  I think BC has the season series on CGY?

In any event, BC will be balling in the next game.  Not great for us.  I really wouldn't even start any starter that can sit for that game.  It should be NAT-city on D, and get tons of game reps for the brand new guys like Hassell.  On O, start Brown at QB, JA27 RB, etc.  Dobson/Couture start, etc.

Then by the final week if the BC picture is decided, then we can start our regulars for a quarter (and they'll do the same).  We can make a wink & nod arrangement with BC that it'll be like a Pro Bowl game: no one gets hurt.  It'll work out great with the timing of the bye and the WSF rest week.

[Jesse]

Not sure why you think so little of our team that we?re going to be so manhandled, that every player gets injured.

[TecnoGenius]

Not sure why you think so little of our team that we?re going to be so manhandled, that every player gets injured.

Injuries really have nothing to do with whether you're winning or losing.  Look at Zach getting lit up a few times vs EDM when we were blowing them out.  Remember when Nichols went down and we were clobbering BC?  That was really his last competitive game ever.  Look at Rourke, he was winning handily when he got injured.

And the non-contact injuries just happen whenever, at random.

In years past I would consider the rest vs rust dilemma, but this year, with so many star starters already out, I want to take no chances.  Why take any chances with our #1's when we don't have to?  Again, guys like Bryant, Demski & Collaros are so seasoned that they really don't need to play to stay sharp.

We used to watch CGY face this problem year after year and they almost always chose rest.  They'd pull their best guys after 1Q max.

[Lincoln Locomotive]

Injuries really have nothing to do with whether you're winning or losing.  Look at Zach getting lit up a few times vs EDM when we were blowing them out.  Remember when Nichols went down and we were clobbering BC?  That was really his last competitive game ever.  Look at Rourke, he was winning handily when he got injured.

And the non-contact injuries just happen whenever, at random.

In years past I would consider the rest vs rust dilemma, but this year, with so many star starters already out, I want to take no chances.  Why take any chances with our #1's when we don't have to?  Again, guys like Bryant, Demski & Collaros are so seasoned that they really don't need to play to stay sharp.

We used to watch CGY face this problem year after year and they almost always chose rest.  They'd pull their best guys after 1Q max.

Agreed!  100%

[GOLDMEMBER]

Injuries really have nothing to do with whether you're winning or losing.  Look at Zach getting lit up a few times vs EDM when we were blowing them out.  Remember when Nichols went down and we were clobbering BC?  That was really his last competitive game ever.  Look at Rourke, he was winning handily when he got injured.

And the non-contact injuries just happen whenever, at random.

In years past I would consider the rest vs rust dilemma, but this year, with so many star starters already out, I want to take no chances.  Why take any chances with our #1's when we don't have to?  Again, guys like Bryant, Demski & Collaros are so seasoned that they really don't need to play to stay sharp.

We used to watch CGY face this problem year after year and they almost always chose rest.  They'd pull their best guys after 1Q max.

I am on board as well! Techno HE IS MAKING A COME BACK!!! lol

[Jesse]

Injuries really have nothing to do with whether you're winning or losing.  Look at Zach getting lit up a few times vs EDM when we were blowing them out.  Remember when Nichols went down and we were clobbering BC?  That was really his last competitive game ever.  Look at Rourke, he was winning handily when he got injured.

And the non-contact injuries just happen whenever, at random.

In years past I would consider the rest vs rust dilemma, but this year, with so many star starters already out, I want to take no chances.  Why take any chances with our #1's when we don't have to?  Again, guys like Bryant, Demski & Collaros are so seasoned that they really don't need to play to stay sharp.

We used to watch CGY face this problem year after year and they almost always chose rest.  They'd pull their best guys after 1Q max.

Because players who haven't played or played as a unit for 5 weeks are the kinds of teams that get upset come play-off time.

We will absolutely take advantage of helping injured players get extra rest, but it would be, imo, a poor decision to sit everyone down for too long.

[TecnoGenius]

We will absolutely take advantage of helping injured players get extra rest, but it would be, imo, a poor decision to sit everyone down for too long.

Normally MOS agrees with you.  He's a "play each week normally" type of guy.  However, this year I think we'll see if MOS has matured as a HC and does a lot more resting.  He'll probably still start all non-nicked guys, but I think he'll pull players much earlier than he has in past years.  Remember, not only do we preserve the #1's health, but we also get valuable real-game reps for the #2's.

If standings get sorted out enough so that the final week doesn't matter to BC, then the timing of all the byes/breaks are perfect for us:

week 18: we went all-out to beat EDM
week 19: we can go rest-heavy, maybe not even start Zach (why give him the "L" stat?)
week 20: bye
week 21: if BC is locked in at #2 or #3 then both teams can Pro-Bowl it and start the #1's but play real soft/easy
week 22 SFs: bye
week 23 DFs: ball out 100%
week 24 GC: go mental

* bold are weeks we play our normal starters

See how nice and staggered our efforts can be if week 19 is a #2's week?  I think all our superstars can play quite fine with 2-3 week breaks in between.  There would be no 5 week break.

If BC's final standings position isn't set by week 21, then we have a quandry.  I don't want to stand in their way of securing #2 at the risk of injury.

[TecnoGenius]

In an ideal world we want BC to be #2 so CGY has the harder time of beating BC in BC.  Might wear them out more before the WDF.

Unfortunately, CGY will likely steamroll SSK back2back if they need to.  But SSK will play hard as long as they still have a crossover shot.  They won't win, but they may make life difficult by making CGY make an effort.

The HAM@CGY game will be very important for 4 teams then: HAM, CGY, SSK and BC.  If HAM wins in an upset, it will screw up many West teams' lives.

If we really wanted to try to force CGY to BC for WSF, we could ensure we lose our 2 final games... Don't think MOS would ever do that, but it's an interesting thought.  If BC has to WSF it in cold CGY then I don't think BC has a hope in hades, even with Rourke.

Look at the final 3 weeks of games: the matchups are the best that I can ever remember.  Basically every team not named EDM / OTT / WPG is fighting for playoff positioning in a bad way!  It's going to be exciting and might we see some crazy surprises or spoilers?

[GOLDMEMBER]

Normally MOS agrees with you.  He's a "play each week normally" type of guy.  However, this year I think we'll see if MOS has matured as a HC and does a lot more resting.  He'll probably still start all non-nicked guys, but I think he'll pull players much earlier than he has in past years.  Remember, not only do we preserve the #1's health, but we also get valuable real-game reps for the #2's.

If standings get sorted out enough so that the final week doesn't matter to BC, then the timing of all the byes/breaks are perfect for us:

week 18: we went all-out to beat EDM
week 19: we can go rest-heavy, maybe not even start Zach (why give him the "L" stat?)
week 20: bye
week 21: if BC is locked in at #2 or #3 then both teams can Pro-Bowl it and start the #1's but play real soft/easy
week 22 SFs: bye
week 23 DFs: ball out 100%
week 24 GC: go mental

* bold are weeks we play our normal starters

See how nice and staggered our efforts can be if week 19 is a #2's week?  I think all our superstars can play quite fine with 2-3 week breaks in between.  There would be no 5 week break.

If BC's final standings position isn't set by week 21, then we have a quandry.  I don't want to stand in their way of securing #2 at the risk of injury.

Bravo. I really like this time table for the key players plus the nicked ones.

[BlueInCgy]

BC has the season series with Calgary.  Calgary will likely win out with Ham and Sask X , so BC has something to play for every game.  On the other hand, does how #2 and #3 work out matter to the Bombers?  Honestly it would be better if BC finished 2, I don?t think there?s much chance BC beats Calgary in Calgary , and a slim chance they beat them in BC.

O?Shea will keep everyone in game shape and speed.  That being said, I?d prefer Zach to not play, and possibly bench Schoen and Demski.  I don?t think either of those will happen, because there are team and individual records on the line.

[DM83]

bC is nothing as long as  Enron no read Adams. Has the ball. 
He is pitiful and. Can not read a defense. Same as Fajardo..

Adams is an outstanding div 3 QB, but change up the defense and he is lost.
Fun to watch, except when he starts crying.

For me I am inspired by a QB  or coach( not Lapo)  who pushes players to play on.  Because that is what you have to do to overcome any setback!.

In Adams case, it?s great he takes responsibility, but scrap the head in hands BS. 
Maybe his coordinator is crap, they are the guys who see coverages first..

Winnipeg, plays like a fine oiled machine.. everyone knows what has to be done.
The only problem Winnipeg would have is if the defense comes up with some crazy never before seen. Defense..