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« on: September 18, 2022, 04:19:54 AM »

According to 3down. Stemming from an alleged sucker punch thrown by Cam Judge at Lucky Whitehead in the stadium after the game. Calgary Police involved.

https://3downnation.com/2022/09/17/lions-stampeders-involved-in-post-game-altercation-after-cam-judge-allegedly-sucker-punches-lucky-whitehead/
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2022, 04:38:15 AM »

Suspension or fine?
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2022, 04:47:07 AM »

Uh, keep it on the field, guys.

Article makes it sound like no violence, just chirping in the parking lot.  If so, nothingburger for the police.  And no fines unless any "no no" words were used.

If any punch on-field was caught on camera or with neutral witnesses, that could get a fine.

In any event, teams waiting for other teams at their locker entrance is not cool, and should not be allowed by the league.  Should be clarified to make this clear.  Just asking for trouble.
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2022, 01:26:38 PM »

Suspension or fine?
Both. The CFL has to step up here and protect the integrity of its product and league as this is bush league/shades of slap shot.
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2022, 08:04:43 PM »

Judge suspended one game.

https://3downnation.com/2022/09/20/cfl-suspends-calgary-stampeders-cameron-judge-one-game-for-punching-b-c-lions-lucky-whitehead/

They showed Lucky staggering after the punch to the head, he was really wonky! Maybe even concussed.
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2022, 08:24:33 PM »

Judge suspended one game.

https://3downnation.com/2022/09/20/cfl-suspends-calgary-stampeders-cameron-judge-one-game-for-punching-b-c-lions-lucky-whitehead/

They showed Lucky staggering after the punch to the head, he was really wonky! Maybe even concussed.
Did you manage to find a video of the punch? I couldn't seem to find anything...
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2022, 11:07:57 PM »

Did you manage to find a video of the punch? I couldn't seem to find anything...

Don't think TSN caught that, just the melee after the punch.
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2022, 11:52:04 PM »

Judge suspended one game.

https://3downnation.com/2022/09/20/cfl-suspends-calgary-stampeders-cameron-judge-one-game-for-punching-b-c-lions-lucky-whitehead/

They showed Lucky staggering after the punch to the head, he was really wonky! Maybe even concussed.
He got clocked as he was out on his feet. These things happen When trash talking goes too far.......
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2022, 12:52:02 AM »

He got clocked as he was out on his feet. These things happen When trash talking goes too far.......

Supposedly lucky lipping off again insulting a judge family member. Still this is high school behaviour.
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2022, 01:13:17 AM »

Lucky always struck me as as a lippy %$&@*# hole he probably deserved it!
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2022, 01:45:15 AM »

Could be a really wild game in BC this coming weekend! Lucky better keep his head low.
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2022, 06:48:29 PM »

Supposedly lucky lipping off again insulting a judge family member. Still this is high school behaviour.

The on-field trash-talkers are constantly mouthing off about everything, including families.  They do it on purpose to get under the skin.  This is news to anyone?

Talk is one thing.  Physical violence is another.

Glad to see enough people saw it for Judge to get suspended.  I guess the stadium-exit "melee" was a just a nothingburger shouting match then, as no charges were brought.  Still, I would hope the CFL would clarify that teams can't loiter outside the other team exit.
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2022, 07:43:37 PM »

Saw somewhere that Lucky might have been concussed by the blow... he's a hard guy to get to sit down for any reason... I sure hope he doesn't play if he has any lingering issues...
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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2022, 08:07:13 PM »

I ve always wondered why trash talking is an accepted norm in sport, you can verbally disrespect a player, but you don?t draw an OC call?? We have all sorts of respect in sports training etc going on yet we put up with this ghetto talk. Well I for one am glad a lippy mouth piece got punched in the mouth. I am old school. You talk the talk you better be able to back it up and Lucky clearly couldn?t.
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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2022, 08:23:34 PM »

Saw somewhere that Lucky might have been concussed by the blow... he's a hard guy to get to sit down for any reason... I sure hope he doesn't play if he has any lingering issues...

B.A. was also knocked out this week, doubt we would see any precautions taken if they had a game this weekend.
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« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2022, 12:18:19 AM »

I ve always wondered why trash talking is an accepted norm in sport, you can verbally disrespect a player, but you don?t draw an OC call??

If you tried to ban smack talk, you'd also have to kick Donny C out of the stands!  Grin Grin Grin Grin Shocked

Let them chirp, some think it helps, some don't bother engaging.  Different strokes.  But you don't throw blows in the CFL.
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« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2022, 12:41:40 AM »

I ve always wondered why trash talking is an accepted norm in sport, you can verbally disrespect a player, but you don?t draw an OC call?? We have all sorts of respect in sports training etc going on yet we put up with this ghetto talk. Well I for one am glad a lippy mouth piece got punched in the mouth. I am old school. You talk the talk you better be able to back it up and Lucky clearly couldn?t.

You bring up "respect in sport"...and condemn "ghetto talk" (which sounds super racist, so cut that out if you work with kids) - and then in the next breath say you're glad he got punched in the mouth.

These are adults and professionals and any violence like this is just ridiculous.
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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2022, 01:49:34 PM »

Trash talk is garbage.
I found that guys that engage in it are desperate, already defeated, and usually lose their individual battles or match-ups..its for losers.
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« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2022, 06:29:04 PM »

I find trash talkers usually engage with other trash talkers. I thought Darvin Adams was quite skillful at it. Often drawing penalties. I certainly wouldn't classify him as a loser.
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« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2022, 08:05:05 PM »

OK you pick one guy.

nice one!
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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2022, 03:11:08 PM »

I don't like trash talk but it's part of the game now.  It's not a penalty and young players will emulate what they see. Just seems to be getting worse. Good sportsmanship is gone.

I love those old b&w games where they'd score a td, put the ball on the ground and walk back to sideline. This was before someone invented "the spike" haha.
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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2022, 07:20:21 PM »

I don?t mind the TD celebrations,most are brief which they should be, but the trash talk is just disrespectful and I think tarnishes the product but it?s the way society is today, respect for your fellow man, teachers and police is truly sad as that?s what we ve ?evolved? to and we re supposed to be an intelligent species
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« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2022, 12:55:57 AM »

I don?t mind the TD celebrations,most are brief which they should be, but the trash talk is just disrespectful and I think tarnishes the product but it?s the way society is today, respect for your fellow man, teachers and police is truly sad as that?s what we ve ?evolved? to and we re supposed to be an intelligent species

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Trash talk is normal banter in sports and jacks some players up, but ugly personal insults are stepping over the line. I believe this is why Cameron judge lost it and gave lucky a shot. Lucky the lip!
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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2022, 02:07:58 AM »

I don't like trash talk but it's part of the game now.  It's not a penalty and young players will emulate what they see. Just seems to be getting worse. Good sportsmanship is gone.

I love those old b&w games where they'd score a td, put the ball on the ground and walk back to sideline. This was before someone invented "the spike" haha.

Yeah, that sounds boring.

This is entertainment. I like the planned TR celebrations. Seeing emotion on the field.

Just don?t do anything illegal.
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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2022, 02:17:09 AM »

Maybe blame it on the 3-4% Neanderthal dna in Homo sapiens why such nonsense continues!   Cheesy Wink

Trash talk is normal banter in sports and jacks some players up, but ugly personal insults are stepping over the line. I believe this is why Cameron judge lost it and gave lucky a shot. Lucky the lip!
I blame it on nobody is held accountable for what they say. Back in the day, you'd be called out and thumped, now we just let punks walk around the field with a coloured beanie on lipping people off. So glad he got what he deserved, looks great on him.
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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2022, 03:23:17 AM »

I blame it on nobody is held accountable for what they say. Back in the day, you'd be called out and thumped, now we just let punks walk around the field with a coloured beanie on lipping people off. So glad he got what he deserved, looks great on him.

IF he got sucker-punched, as reported, that is a cowardly attack by Judge. I'm not justifying any garbage talk that Whitehead might have thrown at Judge, but it should have not resulted in a blind side punch. Plain and simple.
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« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2022, 04:34:12 AM »

IF he got sucker-punched, as reported, that is a cowardly attack by Judge. I'm not justifying any garbage talk that Whitehead might have thrown at Judge, but it should have not resulted in a blind side punch. Plain and simple.

According to Whitehead they did not exchange any words after the first half and still Judge went hunting for him after the game. The fact he did not remove his helmet and held his anger for over an hour indicates he attacked with ill intent.  Judge had a reputation even before signing with Sask. originally for not being all that mentally stable.
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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2022, 05:39:03 AM »

I guess the lesson here is to not chirp those mentally unstable as whatever he said to him he held his anger for that long . Wow
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« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2022, 11:57:45 AM »

Stamps do alot of the trash talk they just dont like it when someone does it to them. The stamps player should get 2 or more games for that kind of bshaviour after a game. Dishes it out but cant take it on tbe field
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« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2022, 03:22:54 PM »

I guess the lesson here is to not chirp those mentally unstable as whatever he said to him he held his anger for that long . Wow

The lesson to be learned is don?t assault people.
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« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2022, 03:11:28 AM »

I blame it on nobody is held accountable for what they say. Back in the day, you'd be called out and thumped, now we just let punks walk around the field with a coloured beanie on lipping people off. So glad he got what he deserved, looks great on him.

Back in the day, y?all just committed assault if somebody said something insulting?
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