RIDERS RELEASE MARINO

Started by barbk, September 06, 2022, 11:26:44 PM

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LXTSN

I think Duke is not an issue for them. He has NFL type of talent with temper and behavioural issues.
If they want to take a shot at a Grey Cup, they need him.

BLUEBOMBER

Quote from: GCn19 on September 07, 2022, 03:26:37 PM
Jones places a strong emphasis on discipline? News to me. The Riders discipline problems started with him, and continued on after he left. He is the one that brought in questionable character guys like Ed Gainey, Nick Marshall, Duron Carter etc, and allowed them to run rampant throught the dressing room.

It's one thing to mouth off but intentionally injuring other players is at another level.

GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: LXTSN on September 07, 2022, 04:21:43 PM
I think Duke is not an issue for them. He has NFL type of talent with temper and behavioural issues.
If they want to take a shot at a Grey Cup, they need him.
to me that is debatable
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Quote from: LXTSN on September 07, 2022, 04:21:43 PM
I think Duke is not an issue for them. He has NFL type of talent with temper and behavioural issues.
If they want to take a shot at a Grey Cup, they need him.

Disagree.  Temper and behavioural issues demonstrate a lack of discipline and control and are detrimental to the player with potential to spread to other team members.  There could be an argument made this behaviour is already costing the Riders wins. Same sentiment applies to Marino.

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GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: ModAdmin on September 07, 2022, 05:36:58 PM
Disagree.  Temper and behavioural issues demonstrate a lack of discipline and control and are detrimental to the player with potential to spread to other team members.  There could be an argument made this behaviour is already costing the Riders wins. Same sentiment applies to Marino.


I am with modadmin plus he was dropping the ball more than enough when playing this year as well. The guy is an absolute cancer. He IS overrated this year!
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theaardvark

A Rec losing his mind and attacking another player is a giggle.  A 300lb DT doing so, nothing to laugh at. 

Duke has his place on the Riders for sure.  He is a legit top talent, when he is on his game.  Does Maas have the skills to max his potential?  Does Dickenson have the skills to keep him in check?
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Pete

Dickenson says that they released Marino because he was becoming a distraction.Talk about a day late and a dollar short. It doesnt even address the other discipline issues as all it says that if your suspended, fined and blacklisted from the league then we may address the issue

TecnoGenius

So does Marino still get a fine for the Zach hit?  Or have they washed their hands of him?

I think the Ambrosie memo is a first for the league?

Yikes, out of all the cretins the CFL has seen over the years, Marino took the cake.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: LXTSN on September 07, 2022, 04:21:43 PM
I think Duke is not an issue for them. He has NFL type of talent with temper and behavioural issues.
If they want to take a shot at a Grey Cup, they need him.

Duke used to have NFL talent.  He hasn't done squat since coming back.  He's way underproducing for his salary and hype.  Give me Schoen or Lawler or Demski any day over Duke.

The dude gets escorted off the field by trainers on every diving (missed) catch... like 3 by my count now.  He never catches them either, then just plays hurt to avoid criticism.

My opinion is he's washed up.  Maybe fine as a 3rd read or something, but not worth more than $130k/year.  I'd be surprised if he makes one highlight catch a season.  Once you subtract all of his penalty yards, he's probably a net negative.  To think we once were drooling over the prospect of him in blue & gold...
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 08, 2022, 04:28:25 AM
Duke used to have NFL talent.  He hasn't done squat since coming back.  He's way underproducing for his salary and hype.  Give me Schoen or Lawler or Demski any day over Duke.

The dude gets escorted off the field by trainers on every diving (missed) catch... like 3 by my count now.  He never catches them either, then just plays hurt to avoid criticism.

My opinion is he's washed up.  Maybe fine as a 3rd read or something, but not worth more than $130k/year.  I'd be surprised if he makes one highlight catch a season.  Once you subtract all of his penalty yards, he's probably a net negative.  To think we once were drooling over the prospect of him in blue & gold...


However, cruising on the sidelines, looking dapper with his sunglasses, suits him.
"You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one." - John Wooden

LXTSN

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 08, 2022, 04:28:25 AM
Duke used to have NFL talent.  He hasn't done squat since coming back.  He's way underproducing for his salary and hype.  Give me Schoen or Lawler or Demski any day over Duke.

The dude gets escorted off the field by trainers on every diving (missed) catch... like 3 by my count now.  He never catches them either, then just plays hurt to avoid criticism.

My opinion is he's washed up.  Maybe fine as a 3rd read or something, but not worth more than $130k/year.  I'd be surprised if he makes one highlight catch a season.  Once you subtract all of his penalty yards, he's probably a net negative.  To think we once were drooling over the prospect of him in blue & gold...

Totally agree. When you look at his game as a whole (including penalties & off field stuff), Duke can't be your top guy. But if you look at the raw physical talent he is one of the top in the league. So I understand keeping him and not Marino.

I would also take all those guys you mentioned on our team, but for the Riders, I think a healthy Duke is their "wild-card" and they need him to win games for them. He may lose games for them as well, but it's their best shot

Lincoln Locomotive

He wouldn't make on MOS's team....a big hard pass on the Duke.    There's a reason the Riders are the most penalized team in the CFL
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: Lincoln Locomotive on September 08, 2022, 01:34:58 PM
He wouldn't make on MOS's team....a big hard pass on the Duke.    There's a reason the Riders are the most penalized team in the CFL

Head coach. Dickenson is a coward.

https://3downnation.com/2022/09/07/riders-head-coach-craig-dickenson-says-release-of-garrett-marino-was-necessary-after-he-became-a-distraction/
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theaardvark

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 08, 2022, 01:59:44 PM
Head coach. Dickenson is a coward.

https://3downnation.com/2022/09/07/riders-head-coach-craig-dickenson-says-release-of-garrett-marino-was-necessary-after-he-became-a-distraction/

?That?s how Garrett?s wired. When he sees the other colour, he hits it. He doesn?t know half the time if it?s quarterback, running back, o-lineman ? he sees a jersey of a different colour, he hits it. That?s why he?s so darn good and disruptive, but it is also a dangerous way to play and eventually, it gets you in trouble,? said Dickenson.

Seems to me that is a lack of coaching...
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