Official Game Day Thread - Calgary at Winnipeg August 25, 2022

[the.inkster]

I wasn't able to watch the game and was following along with OB. Any chance somebody can post a clip of the RTP play?

[TecnoGenius]

I wasn't able to watch the game and was following along with OB. Any chance somebody can post a clip of the RTP play?

Like everyone said, it wasn't RTP.  Even Ridersfans say no RTP.  And TSN was just awful for replays all night.  They didn't give any useful angles on the RTP.  They also didn't show a useful angle on the Sceviour/Bighill holding at the end.  Just awful how bad TSN replays have been this year.

If no one else gets you a replay, I'll see if I can whip something up.  But vid clips are harder for me than stills...

[dd]

The Bighill ?holding? call looked like an even up call for the Jefferson RTP. The O lineman just blocked him to the ground, even dunnigan commented on why was there a call. He also said there was nothing wrong with the Jefferson play and no RTP call should have been made?more or less stating the obvious

[TBURGESS]

Not everyone agrees that the RTP was a bad call. According to someone on the other site MOS said he tried to challenge it, but was told by the refs that he wouldn't win because the precedence has been set that you don't have to hit the head and they've been calling like that all season. Which is exactly what I said earlier on today.

[TBURGESS]

The Bighill ?holding? call looked like an even up call for the Jefferson RTP. The O lineman just blocked him to the ground, even dunnigan commented on why was there a call. He also said there was nothing wrong with the Jefferson play and no RTP call should have been made?more or less stating the obvious

That was a chintzy call IMO, especially on a 3rd down with 2:30 to go in a 2 point game. I'd have been furious if it was ever called on us like that.

[TecnoGenius]

There is an angle you can kind of make out what is going on.  Bighill has him beat and he's basically just holding Bighill's arm not letting him get away.  The other W guy closer to the end was also getting held.

Both guys were right at the point of attack.  Bighill could have made a play on Carey had he not been held.  Whether he makes the tackle, meh, maybe not.  In that sense the OL should have been extra cautious about holding.  You also can't tackle a D guy from behind like he did: I don't like the league letting OLs get away with that.

If only TSN would show the angle from the other side!!  You know there are at least 2 other cameras that would have had great angles on it.  I think TSN likes the controversy.

I totally think Sceviour was holding: what I'm not sold on is it's the type of thing that they normally flag.  Just look at all the SSK OL holding that goes on every play.  Maybe the league is tightening up: I hope so for next week in Hold City...

Maybe someone can ask Biggie what he thought of the call...

In any event, with over 2min on the clock at that point, if we hold them to a FG the next 1st down or 2, we have around a min to drive for our own game-winning FG.  And at 100% on the night maybe Leggs redeems himself.  Luckily we didn't have to find out.

[TecnoGenius]

Some flexibility to spell some NAt's with globals or imports. Sure. That's only partially true. Not what your post seems to suggest.  A DI or global cannot directly spell a NI player. The flexibility comes from which extra import global is not the DI. Global players are effectively another version of a DI.

Based on the current game AR I'd think that might be Machino who could come in as an extra blocker. In that instance Woli or Oliveria might come off in a passing down. Or Machino could rotate with a Canadian OL in there was an injury etc.

You are correct, my bad.  So who was the extra non-DI?  We had sets with no NAT RB, like both McCrae and Harrison on (with BO / JA off).  So Harrison was the non-DI?

Machino didn't see the field from what I saw.  We did put Dobson in as 6th OL at least once.

Our DB depth was severely tested last night.  Lots of shuffling going on.  Good thing it didn't fall apart... maybe a good thing Maier wasn't being used as a deep passer that much.

[Blue In BC]

You are correct, my bad.  So who was the extra non-DI?  We had sets with no NAT RB, like both McCrae and Harrison on (with BO / JA off).  So Harrison was the non-DI?

Machino didn't see the field from what I saw.  We did put Dobson in as 6th OL at least once.

Our DB depth was severely tested last night.  Lots of shuffling going on.  Good thing it didn't fall apart... maybe a good thing Maier wasn't being used as a deep passer that much.

I did see Machino on the OL as an extra block at least once. So I'd guess he was the extra non DI. I only say Harrison on the field on ST's but he could have seen a couple of downs replacing one of the import receivers.

Parker would have been a DI as the returner and there would be no issue replacing Houston as the starter after the 1st series.

Walker and probably Cole would be the other  DI's? Maruo and Hansen are only on when an import DL ( most likely ) comes off or on ST's. We've been using 34 defensive sets quite a bit.

[TecnoGenius]

I did see Machino on the OL as an extra block at least once. So I'd guess he was the extra non DI. I only say Harrison on the field on ST's but he could have seen a couple of downs replacing one of the import receivers.

4Q1:54 We go Woli, Bailey, Demski, McCrae, Harrison, Shoen.  Ball goes to McCrae on hitch screen for 1st down.  Hardrick/Bryant were still in.

Thus, Harrison must have been the non-DI.

I'll rewatch looking for Machino.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Rutledge is regularly at the top of tackles game in & out, outside of the mistake from last game he has been great.

I agree Rutledge played great last night, he has huge range and I can't wait to see him play with Kyrie Wilson when he gets back, it will allow Bighill to focus more on the middle of the field.  Not sold on Clements yet as he doesn't seem to be all that physical, almost all the Stamps runs were in his direction and he only came up with 2 tackles.

It also seems like they may be giving up on the rookie DE's with Wilcots and Mack sent back to the PR, leaving only Hansen to rotate with the 2 Jeffs.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I did see Machino on the OL as an extra block at least once. So I'd guess he was the extra non DI. I only say Harrison on the field on ST's but he could have seen a couple of downs replacing one of the import receivers.

Parker would have been a DI as the returner and there would be no issue replacing Houston as the starter after the 1st series.

Walker and probably Cole would be the other  DI's? Maruo and Hansen are only on when an import DL ( most likely ) comes off or on ST's. We've been using 34 defensive sets quite a bit.

Are you accounting for Mike Miller playing numerous reps at FB last night?  It's been awhile, I was hoping they would throw him a pass.  Maybe his health has finally improved enough to actually practice!

[TecnoGenius]

Are you accounting for Mike Miller playing numerous reps at FB last night?  It's been awhile, I was hoping they would throw him a pass.  Maybe his health has finally improved enough to actually practice!

I think they're doing the big setup for one Miller pass for huge yards in the 2022 GC.  It will be the biggest setup eva! 

[pjrocksmb]

I think they're doing the big setup for one Miller pass for huge yards in the 2022 GC.  It will be the biggest setup eva! 

I always yell Miller time when he comes on the field.  Been doing that since the Wade days.

[Blue In BC]

4Q1:54 We go Woli, Bailey, Demski, McCrae, Harrison, Shoen.  Ball goes to McCrae on hitch screen for 1st down.  Hardrick/Bryant were still in.

Thus, Harrison must have been the non-DI.

I'll rewatch looking for Machino.

That's a logical conclusion. A bit of a surprise with a 6 receiver set in a critical time of the game trying to run down the clock. It's a bit of a catch 22 having an extra non DI import. You'd think an extra import would see the field more often in rotation to keep the other receivers fresh and to create a different look to the defence.

You'd think we'd want a good blocker that had been playing most of the game, or even Miller to provide pass protection. I wonder what the thought was from Pierce to put him into the game in that situation?

[Blue In BC]

Are you accounting for Mike Miller playing numerous reps at FB last night?  It's been awhile, I was hoping they would throw him a pass.  Maybe his health has finally improved enough to actually practice!

What did you mean account for Mike Miller? He's a Canadian and can enter the game at any time. Has nothing to do with the DI's.