Lions at Riders GDT

Started by GOLDMEMBER, August 19, 2022, 01:57:47 AM

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Blue In BC

Over on Lionbackers they are suggesting Rourke has a high ankle sprain. They are already worrying about losing any chance of a play off spot. None of that has been confirmed and more worry than fact.

It is very unfortunate for Rourke, the Lions and all CFL fans.

What it does show is that any player can be injured on a given play.

Hopefully he can recover quickly and doesn't require any surgical repair. I wouldn't expect him to replay in the re-match but beyond that is only speculation.
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The Zipp

I don't think the lions need to worry about not making the playoffs...

M.O.A.B.

It's unfortunate what happened to Rouke. I think their best chance to win their succeeding games (while Rouke is out) is to start Pipkin instead of O'Connor. But still expect Lions to lose some of these games.

Lions losing games put us, in a good good situation.
We already have the tie-breaker with the Stamps.  
We will be facing (on LDC and BB) a Riders team who has a QB controversy in a bad bad way. Not to mention that they are far far below us in the standings.

Barring any significant injuries for the Bombers, the way to the final dance should still be through the 'Peg.

TBURGESS

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 20, 2022, 07:20:38 AM
BC's 1st drive: Marino blowing up the BC C is totally UR.  Refs can't let that stuff stand.  Whether it's IP or not the ball was on the ground, completely unsnapped.  You can't savagely blow up the C while the ball is still set!  Marino already raging on the 1st series.  Dude is a liability.
I was yelling "Throw the flag" at my TV when Marino blew up the center.

I'm not sure it was an illegal snap. It went backward, hit the centers leg and bounced forward.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 20, 2022, 01:47:32 PM
Over on Lionbackers they are suggesting Rourke has a high ankle sprain. They are already worrying about losing any chance of a play off spot. None of that has been confirmed and more worry than fact.

It is very unfortunate for Rourke, the Lions and all CFL fans.

What it does show is that any player can be injured on a given play.

Hopefully he can recover quickly and doesn't require any surgical repair. I wouldn't expect him to replay in the re-match but beyond that is only speculation.
I don't think it's a high ankle sprain. They were looking at the in step. Likely a broken bone IMO.
Winnipeg Blue Bombers - 2019 Grey Cup Champs.

Pigskin

If Rourke is out for any length of time it will effect them. BC's D has been playing very well, so they will hold them in games. O'Connor has great receivers so as long as he doesn't turn the ball over BC will win there share of games. With Calgary having 3 losses it gives them a little breathing space.
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.

TBURGESS

Pipkin's not bad, but it requires a ratio change IIRC. Still gotta do it.

BC's a good team on the whole. Pipkin should be able to keep them in the Win column half the time. Just get the ball to the play makers and let them do their thing.
Winnipeg Blue Bombers - 2019 Grey Cup Champs.

Blue In BC

Quote from: The Zipp on August 20, 2022, 03:17:22 PM
I don't think the lions need to worry about not making the playoffs...

Correction. They suggested it might cost them a home play off game, not eliminate them from the play offs. If Rourke is out for many games, it's reasonable to suggest they could fall to 3rd I suppose. O'Conner or Pipkin would struggle. As mentioned Pipkin would be a ratio change as well if he was made the # 1 QB. Not sure who would actually be the # 2, but that's a factor.
Take no prisoners

Blue In BC

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Quote from: TBURGESS on August 20, 2022, 03:22:25 PM
I was yelling "Throw the flag" at my TV when Marino blew up the center.

I'm not sure it was an illegal snap. It went backward, hit the centers leg and bounced forward.
I don't think it's a high ankle sprain. They were looking at the in step. Likely a broken bone IMO.


Broken bone on the top of his foot was my initial thought. Obviously that's not worth much from a fan watching TV with no medical knowledge. If that's what it is, it will still sideline him for awhile.

Possibly that would be a lesser injury than a high ankle sprain?

We'll hear more over the next week.

RE Marino: How was that not a penalty? He also tried but missed taking Whiteheads head off during a tackle.
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CrazyCanuck89

Quote from: M.O.A.B. on August 20, 2022, 03:20:27 PM
It's unfortunate what happened to Rouke. I think their best chance to win their succeeding games (while Rouke is out) is to start Pipkin instead of O'Connor. But still expect Lions to lose some of these games.

Lions losing games put us, in a good good situation.
We already have the tie-breaker with the Stamps.  
We will be facing (on LDC and BB) a Riders team who has a QB controversy in a bad bad way. Not to mention that they are far far below us in the standings.

Barring any significant injuries for the Bombers, the way to the final dance should still be through the 'Peg.

What has Pikin shown to start over O'Connor?  Two rushing TDs in one game, when you're the shortyardage QB, doesn't mean a thing.

M.O.A.B.

#69
Quote from: CrazyCanuck89 on August 20, 2022, 05:17:45 PM
What has Pikin shown to start over O'Connor?  Two rushing TDs in one game, when you're the shortyardage QB, doesn't mean a thing.

Yes with the Leos that is.
And what O'Connor has shown w/ the Leos ?  9 completions in 12 attempts 1 TD 1 INT.  LOL. Are you O'Connor's mom or dad ?

Anyways let see their CFL career stats stats.
O'Connor - 2019-2022  24 games 24 completions 37 attempts 236 yards 1 TD 1 INT
Pipkin 2017-2022  43 games 112 completions 208 attempts 1453 yards   4 TD 9 INT

While Pipkin's stats is not great he is not lacking experience like O'Connor. And Pipkin is more athletic of the two.

If you check Pipkin has even better stats than Prukop. I actually wished Bombers would pickup Pipkin during the free-agency. But he went to the Leo's in a snap.


Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: TBURGESS on August 20, 2022, 03:22:25 PM
I was yelling "Throw the flag" at my TV when Marino blew up the center.

I'm not sure it was an illegal snap. It went backward, hit the centers leg and bounced forward.
I don't think it's a high ankle sprain. They were looking at the in step. Likely a broken bone IMO.


You cannot bounce a snap off your own leg and then have it go forward. That's still a snap that travels forward. The centre cannot advance the ball forward by himself in any manner.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 20, 2022, 07:01:08 PM
You cannot bounce a snap off your own leg and then have it go forward. That's still a snap that travels forward. The centre cannot advance the ball forward by himself in any manner.

Shades of the Bomberrooskie. That snap was just placed a foot back under the center. It was an interesting trick play.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 20, 2022, 01:11:00 PM
It's an illegal snap because the ball went forward. Snap needs to go backwards.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 20, 2022, 01:41:46 PM
It's happened and it's happened to Winnipeg. Sometimes the center adjusts the ball before the snap and moves it slightly forward unintentionally. Net result is that penalty.

Quote from: TBURGESS on August 20, 2022, 03:22:25 PM
I was yelling "Throw the flag" at my TV when Marino blew up the center.

I'm not sure it was an illegal snap. It went backward, hit the centers leg and bounced forward.

TB and SB&G have it right, Watch all the slowmos, he snaps it into his own leg and it bounces/kicks forward then he falls on it.  I have never seen that before.

Yes, MOS chirped some years back and got a ref to flag an opponent advancing the ball 3 inches pre-snap.  Different situation completely, even if they call it the same penalty.  The league stopped calling those after a bit of an uproar ("happens on every snap").

Glad to hear the standard is "C cannot advance the ball", otherwise you could setup some trick plays where the C "snaps" it into his leg to get a yard (risky though).
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: TBURGESS on August 20, 2022, 03:22:25 PM
I was yelling "Throw the flag" at my TV when Marino blew up the center.

Does Marino get a fine for that hit on the C?  How does the eye-in-the-sky not call that after the refs miss it?
Never go full Rider!

pjrocksmb

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 20, 2022, 08:06:20 PM
Does Marino get a fine for that hit on the C?  How does the eye-in-the-sky not call that after the refs miss it?

Agree needs fine and a 15