Rate your confidence in Leggs

Started by pjrocksmb, August 12, 2022, 10:41:01 PM

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Rate your confidence in Leggs

High - mistakes happen, he is our longer term kicker
17 (24.6%)
Medium - let the kid learn, give him some more rope
27 (39.1%)
Low - can't miss 2 in a row like that, put him on short leash
15 (21.7%)
Zero -Look for a new place kicker now
10 (14.5%)

Total Members Voted: 68

Tee42

Lets just say of Medlock was still here and he was working with Benson and Prukop, they would be spending hours getting their timing down. As mentioned Medlock could pull that off being a seasoned vet, Im sure Leggs cant do that at this point. He takes what he can get.

Waffler

Quote from: Tee42 on August 18, 2022, 06:58:25 PM
Lets just say of Medlock was still here and he was working with Benson and Prukop, they would be spending hours getting their timing down. As mentioned Medlock could pull that off being a seasoned vet, Im sure Leggs cant do that at this point. He takes what he can get.


I don't know why he can't. It's his job on the line. The other 2 are safe. The coaches should back him 100%, what ever he needs to be successful. And if he doesn't want to be a dick then the coach should do it for him.  Still think they need a field goal specialist brought in as consultant.  It would be well worth it if it fixed even one miss.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Waffler on August 18, 2022, 09:30:50 PM
I don't know why he can't. It's his job on the line. The other 2 are safe. The coaches should back him 100%, what ever he needs to be successful. And if he doesn't want to be a dick then the coach should do it for him.  Still think they need a field goal specialist brought in as consultant.  It would be well worth it if it fixed even one miss.

Maybe a sports psychologist?  As Westwood said a few days ago when asked about the 2 misses, kicking is 95% in the head.  He also said it was inexcusable to make such poor contact with the ball on the first FG, but he could understand missing the target, 'cause that happens.

Tee42

Start a new job, tell people that have been there for years that you don?t like the way things are done. How do you think that?s going to go over?

That?s why this kid has longevity. He?s got the skill, he just has to get comfortable with the two people he needs to work with, the snapper in the holder.

It will be interesting to see what happens after this year. Third year option contract. I think he will be fine for the rest of the season. Personally,  I am glad this happened at this point in the season.


Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 18, 2022, 09:50:07 PM
Maybe a sports psychologist?  As Westwood said a few days ago when asked about the 2 misses, kicking is 95% in the head.  He also said it was inexcusable to make such poor contact with the ball on the first FG, but he could understand missing the target, 'cause that happens.

Maybe he should sit on the bench and rock back and forth with his hands on his head like Westwood did.

Waffler

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Quote from: Tee42 on August 19, 2022, 12:08:53 AM
Start a new job, tell people that have been there for years that you don?t like the way things are done. How do you think that?s going to go over?


But this is sports. In baseball for example if any pitcher in the bullpen feels they need some work the backup catcher has to catch him. In some cases they might not like it especially a wild thrower.

If need be the coaches need to tell them the kicker is the QB of the field goal, do what he says.

Never met him but Prokup comes across an arrogant sob to me.
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Waffler

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 19, 2022, 12:09:58 AM
Maybe he should sit on the bench and rock back and forth with his hands on his head like Westwood did.

That was kind of comical but I will say that Westwood came in by himself on a bye week and was still kicking. Saw that more than once while going past the old stadium.
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Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 18, 2022, 09:50:07 PM
Maybe a sports psychologist?  As Westwood said a few days ago when asked about the 2 misses, kicking is 95% in the head.  He also said it was inexcusable to make such poor contact with the ball on the first FG, but he could understand missing the target, 'cause that happens.

Westwood wasn't perfect. He also made some bad kicks in career. It happens.
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Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 18, 2022, 09:50:07 PM
Maybe a sports psychologist?  As Westwood said a few days ago when asked about the 2 misses, kicking is 95% in the head.  He also said it was inexcusable to make such poor contact with the ball on the first FG, but he could understand missing the target, 'cause that happens.
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theaardvark

So, Lewis Ward.  Lets trade for him...

So, missed 2 of 3 tonight, 77.8% for the season

Leggs is 82.6%
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Quote from: theaardvark on August 20, 2022, 05:11:12 AM
So, Lewis Ward.  Lets trade for him...

So, missed 2 of 3 tonight, 77.8% for the season

Leggs is 82.6%

Ya, Ward is trending downwards the last 2 seasons.  No doubt.  Something in his head.  Maybe he doesn't like being on a loser team for eternity?

But how about Castillo!  52 yarder again like it was nothing.  But he missed a PAT... ugh.

Maybe we should just admit kicking sucks across the league this year.  Even Parades screwing up at times.

Maybe CFL doesn't pay kickers enough.  Sad that we (the whole CFL) couldn't get Medlock back after the hiatus.  Maybe the league needs to incentivize paying kickers more, to get them up here and staying up here.  Maybe SMS-free bonus money.  Maybe somehow mitigate the disadvantage IMPs are in terms of wasting a DI?  NAT K's are nice, but there aren't enough quality ones.

Medlock (and similar) would have stayed and played had the deal been $100k more than what was on the table.
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Waffler

The trend downward is odd to say the least. The hash marks were moved in which in theory should mean easier kicks. I grew up watching in a time when the field goal was far from automatic. Dave Cutler for example, a hall of famer if there ever was one, was 58.7% lifetime. Percentage has been going up steadily over time until this year. It has to be an anomaly.
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Blue In BC

Ward missing 2 was unusual for him. 2 singles instead of 2 FG's. It may have changed the momentum slightly but the Redblacks will never know. Not a very good team. Lapo could be on the hot seat if he doesn't win the re-match next week. I'd hate to see that happen but something has to change.

Broadcasters suggesting something big has to happen on their roster. Easy to say difficult to do.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 20, 2022, 07:54:19 AM
Ya, Ward is trending downwards the last 2 seasons.  No doubt.  Something in his head.  Maybe he doesn't like being on a loser team for eternity?

But how about Castillo!  52 yarder again like it was nothing.  But he missed a PAT... ugh.

Maybe we should just admit kicking sucks across the league this year.  Even Parades screwing up at times.

Maybe CFL doesn't pay kickers enough.  Sad that we (the whole CFL) couldn't get Medlock back after the hiatus.  Maybe the league needs to incentivize paying kickers more, to get them up here and staying up here.  Maybe SMS-free bonus money.  Maybe somehow mitigate the disadvantage IMPs are in terms of wasting a DI?  NAT K's are nice, but there aren't enough quality ones.

Medlock (and similar) would have stayed and played had the deal been $100k more than what was on the table.


Medlock is 38, dude. I'm pretty sure he was dealing with back problems and contemplated retirement for the last few years of his playing career.

Had nothing to do with money. Zero.
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