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« on: August 05, 2022, 01:44:00 AM »


The Good
A Great Effort by a tired team.
Legghio punting and kicking.
Janarion Grant.
Our defense.
Clutch plays by our offense.
That fourth quarter.
Lots of garbage cans to put those Horns into.

The Bad

Those Friggin Horns.

The Ugly

Those Friggin Horns.
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2022, 01:48:20 AM »

Sticky beat me to punch!!!! Errrr Angry Grin

Good
9-0!
Rose was King on D today! MOP of game
Zach was amazing in the second half
Woli Schoen Bailey we?re all making needed key converts
Oliver a even better game yet!
Leggs was well perfect!
OL improved as the game went
Grant game breaker on Teams and sweeps n

Bad
Zach in first half
Untimely penalties on the Jeffs
OL first half especially in protection
Zach scare but only a lose shoe Lol
Way to many turnovers


Ugly
those annoying horns Montreal Fans should be ashamed of themselves if made TV annoying more than anything
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2022, 01:58:40 AM »

Good
2nd half D
We all got along in GDT
Rose
Leggs
BO

Bad
1st half

Ugly
turnovers
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2022, 02:06:50 AM »

Good -
4th qtr grit and dominance
Wally - another big sure handed target great today
Grant - best game ever
Zach now 26-2
BO - another good game
Legs - does he ever miss?
Eugene Lewis - sorry but he?d look great in Bomber blue

Bad -
4 turnovers kept the Als in it

Ugly -
This win - great teams find a way and this is a great team



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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2022, 02:07:12 AM »

the Good

1.   was really impressed how the defensive line got pressure from literally everyone.  Only 3 sacks, but Jefferson, Sayles, Hansen also got consistent pressure.  

2.  I thought Winston Rose made some big plays tonight.  the one where he fought through he block to destroy the screen pass was especially good.

3.  Wolitarsky had a great game.  

4.  Oliveira with another solid, solid game.  Especially appreciate the last TD in garbage time, 'cause I picked him in fantasy.  

The Bad

5.  I didn't think Hallett did anything to particularly distinguish himself tonight.

6. 3 interceptions is never good. Fortunately, this did not dissuade Zac from taking his shots.  

7.  Can't be giving up those big returns.  Yikes.

8. We have been inordinately lucky with penalties breaking our way at critical times.  That pyramiding penalty was bizarre.  Nice to catch a break like that, but one of these weeks, we aren't going to dodge that bullet.  And momentum is a funny thing.  

The Ugly

9.  I can't help but be upset when I reflect on next year's CBA. The goofy changes to the ratio are going to steal reps from guys like Wolitarsky, Thomas, and probably Oliverira.  And that's a **** shame.  
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2022, 02:08:53 AM »

Good

Bend don't break
D coming up in the 2nd half, adjustments as always, Hall is the King of Adjustments
Grant showing why he's here and Lucky is in BC
Rose having a game
O finally showing up in the 4th

Bad

Letting MTL stay in the game, tied after 3 quarters
ZC8 making some bad throws early
Missed tackles, on D and ST

Ugly

Horny Montrealers
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2022, 02:19:41 AM »

Good

Bend don't break
D coming up in the 2nd half, adjustments as always, Hall is the King of Adjustments
Grant showing why he's here and Lucky is in BC
Rose having a game
O finally showing up in the 4th

Bad

Letting MTL stay in the game, tied after 3 quarters
ZC8 making some bad throws early
Missed tackles, on D and ST

Ugly

Horny Montrealers

Little bit of a difference between the two in skill set.  Lucky is a receiver that can return. Grant is a return specialist, that lines up as a receiver but gets most of his yardage on running plays. Grant needs improve his receiving skills before he will be on par with Lucky as a receiver. With that said, I like now we are using Grant right now.
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2022, 02:47:20 AM »

The good

https://twitter.com/wpg_bluebombers/status/1555385093090414593?s=21&t=Tq9tAm0BNbrZZ7V-5pzEbg
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2022, 03:02:56 AM »

Nice
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2022, 03:07:39 AM »

Montreal fans and there stupid Horns can suck it! Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2022, 09:57:13 AM »

Interesting game.
The Good:
Montreal had the bye and showed up with a half dozen new plays.
Bombers regained their composure and started to get up to speed. As the half ended.
The Bombers ability to correct poor play.
Solid group of players.
Was that Grey not getting beat, now Hardwick  takes over...but only a couple plays.
Zach escaping the Pocket.
Woli becoming the new deep threat
Grant could he  have played any better.  Congrats. Awesome special teams punt return
Oliviera. Is that an Oak Oark signature pose after a first down!  That's the Superman pose right from the Oak Park gang.
Bailey can catch!, well at least a couple.
DBS -technically were just about perfect.
Rose is he the field side DB version of Bighill?
D-line....where are we finding these studs? Geez,
Leggio? Where is the guy who started the season?  He looks completely comfortable.
The Bombers play at home next week! 
Souvenir poutine in that helmut......That was awesome, but.......what did they cost?  $50.00.....cool but.....
Kate is so awesome

The Bad

We should do something similar
What's. Manitobas signature dish?
 Ok we know we always want wholesale....how about those half football plastic game day plastic football dishes from Toys R us, or. The dollar store. fill it with Sunflower seeds and some pemmican/ Banneck, and or perogies on the top part.

Let's all,bring the stupidest noise makers possible. Why does that group of people try and be so difficult ? So disrespectful, to the world. If it shows team spirit, but when it becomes annoying, get rid of it.
Zac had one of his awful games. What is it every third game? OK maybe halves.  Montreal fooled him a couple times
( yeah he only Lead us to a 14 pt. victory)

Ugly

The Montreal sideline reporter dude. He could not speak in one of his first sideline reports
Zacs first int.
Zac fumbling two times.
One of Montreal  long punt returns 
Those horns.

Amazing process players and coaches.
Good job!
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2022, 12:45:55 PM »

The Good

Olivera playing with so much more confidence and energy! GREAT in 3 straight games!
DL was great today, and I like it better with Walker in the lineup rather than Wilcots/Mack
Playcalling on offence was creative with the running game, including Grant on lots of sweeps!
Leggs was flawless, even had a punt inside the 5-yard line
Grant with a punt return TD, 43 rushing yards on 3 carries plus a catch for 6 yards
NO INJURIES ALL GAME!!! (unless I missed one?)

The Bad

Zach struggled a little in the first half but came out firing after that slow start!

The Ugly

Just the horns
Nothing ugly about a win!
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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2022, 01:06:55 PM »

The good our record

The bad we are tired

The ugly TSN if you are going to broadcast a game in MTRL filter out the horns through the TV audio....honestly did a TSN executive listen to the audio it was giving us? it was all horn, way to decrease your TV audience and viewership numbers leave the audio so terrible due to the horns that people are forced to mute or shut off your broadcast!
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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2022, 01:12:08 PM »

The good - Danny Maciocia's blank look on his face the whole game
The bad - Danny Maciocia's blank look on his face the whole game
The ugly - Danny Maciocia's blank look on his face the whole game
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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2022, 01:46:39 PM »

The Good:
9-0
Wolo, Schoen, Brady O all had a great games.
Grant's return TD to seal the game.
The picks after Montreal started pressing.
Keeping Montreal to FG's instead of TD's on the turnovers.
The Bad:
Collaros - 3 picks and a fumble, actually 2 fumbles but one was on an off side.
Playing down to the level of the competition again.
The Ugly:
Stupid horns.

Article 5 ? Pyramiding
Using the body of another player or the goal post assembly in any way to gain or maintain elevation or jump over the line in an attempt to block a field goal or a convert attempt.

I've never seen it called when the defence uses the offensive player to gain the advantage, but the rule doesn't say your own player, so it was the right call.
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« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2022, 01:56:47 PM »

The Good:
9-0
Wolo, Schoen, Brady O all had a great games.
Grant's return TD to seal the game.
The picks after Montreal started pressing.
Keeping Montreal to FG's instead of TD's on the turnovers.
The Bad:
Collaros - 3 picks and a fumble, actually 2 fumbles but one was on an off side.
Playing down to the level of the competition again.
The Ugly:
Stupid horns.

Article 5 ? Pyramiding
Using the body of another player or the goal post assembly in any way to gain or maintain elevation or jump over the line in an attempt to block a field goal or a convert attempt.

I've never seen it called when the defence uses the offensive player to gain the advantage, but the rule doesn't say your own player, so it was the right call.

Meh, the guy didn't gain all that much height and didn't come close to touching the FG attempt, this is a case were the ref. should have kept the flag in his pocket as he altered the game drastically by throwing it and giving the Bombers another crack at a TD.
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« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2022, 02:00:27 PM »

Meh, the guy didn't gain all that much height and didn't come close to touching the FG attempt, this is a case were the ref. should have kept the flag in his pocket as he altered the game drastically by throwing it by giving the Bombers another crack at a TD.
I agree with you. In fact, I thought it was the wrong call until I looked it up.
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« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2022, 02:06:16 PM »

Interesting game.
The Good:
Montreal had the bye and showed up with a half dozen new plays.
Bombers regained their composure and started to get up to speed. As the half ended.
The Bombers ability to correct poor play.
Solid group of players.
Was that Grey not getting beat, now Hardwick  takes over...but only a couple plays.
Zach escaping the Pocket.
Woli becoming the new deep threat
Grant could he  have played any better.  Congrats. Awesome special teams punt return
Oliviera. Is that an Oak Oark signature pose after a first down!  That's the Superman pose right from the Oak Park gang.
Bailey can catch!, well at least a couple.
DBS -technically were just about perfect.
Rose is he the field side DB version of Bighill?
D-line....where are we finding these studs? Geez,
Leggio? Where is the guy who started the season?  He looks completely comfortable.
The Bombers play at home next week! 
Souvenir poutine in that helmut......That was awesome, but.......what did they cost?  $50.00.....cool but.....
Kate is so awesome

The Bad

We should do something similar
What's. Manitobas signature dish?
 Ok we know we always want wholesale....how about those half football plastic game day plastic football dishes from Toys R us, or. The dollar store. fill it with Sunflower seeds and some pemmican/ Banneck, and or perogies on the top part.

Let's all,bring the stupidest noise makers possible. Why does that group of people try and be so difficult ? So disrespectful, to the world. If it shows team spirit, but when it becomes annoying, get rid of it.
Zac had one of his awful games. What is it every third game? OK maybe halves.  Montreal fooled him a couple times
( yeah he only Lead us to a 14 pt. victory)

Ugly

The Montreal sideline reporter dude. He could not speak in one of his first sideline reports
Zacs first int.
Zac fumbling two times.
One of Montreal  long punt returns 
Those horns.

Amazing process players and coaches.
Good job!
The Montreal sideline reporter is from Winnipeg. He is my doctors brother. He is usually a good reporter but he was stumbling over the name of Shoen's friend
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« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2022, 02:22:11 PM »

Meh, the guy didn't gain all that much height and didn't come close to touching the FG attempt, this is a case were the ref. should have kept the flag in his pocket as he altered the game drastically by throwing it by giving the Bombers another crack at a TD.

Why? It's been a rule for a long time and it was clearly a penalty within the rule.  NFL has the same rule. Part of it is injury prevention?
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« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2022, 02:53:03 PM »

The Montreal sideline reporter is from Winnipeg. He is my doctors brother. He is usually a good reporter but he was stumbling over the name of Shoen's friend

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« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2022, 02:57:36 PM »

The Good-Receiving corps made a lot of good catches
             -Great blocking on special teams [Tanner Cadwallder made a great block to spring Grant]
            -Colleros settling down after a rocky start
            -Brady Olivera running hard and made a great catch to keep a drive alive
The Bad-a few careless penalties by the Jeffs
            -Too many turnovers
           -Briggs injury
The Ugly- brutally hot and humid weather
            -those annoying horns, maybe the Bombers should see if South Africa has any of those horns left over from the World Cup
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« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2022, 03:06:45 PM »

The Montreal sideline reporter is from Winnipeg. He is my doctors brother. He is usually a good reporter but he was stumbling over the name of Shoen's friend
John Lui grew up in Southdale a suburb of St Boniface. His mom used to teach my sisters piano. Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2022, 03:08:04 PM »

I would have liked to see Dru Brown get a few reps, with a 2 TD lead and Zach banged up, it was the perfect timing to give Dru the final 10 minutes or so.  I don't understand why O'Shea is willing to test-drive every other player on the roster but never give his backup QB a chance to play.
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« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2022, 03:10:02 PM »

The good - Danny Maciocia's blank look on his face the whole game
The bad - Danny Maciocia's blank look on his face the whole game
The ugly - Danny Maciocia's blank look on his face the whole game

Yeah... what was with that?  Isn't he the O playcaller?  He looked like a deer in the headlights all game.  No animation, even when things were going right or wrong.  Same stone face, as if he had just consumed the wrong edible.

If I'm  an Alouette moving from Khari to Machocia, I'll tell you, I'm not inspired.  It was just sad watching him "coach".  You'd hope the camera would catch him with some emotion.

Maybe a montage of Mochocia facial expressions taken from the TSN feed through the game, captioned with "What just trasnpired" and notes of what had just happened...

I applaud Gary Stern for trying to support his team, and understand making another change is just impossible with the front office SMS, but maybe kick Machoicha off the sdelines and put Thorpe in charge... at least he gets upset when things go wrong...
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« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2022, 03:15:03 PM »

Meh, the guy didn't gain all that much height and didn't come close to touching the FG attempt, this is a case were the ref. should have kept the flag in his pocket as he altered the game drastically by throwing it and giving the Bombers another crack at a TD.

Its not whether he gained much height, it was that he used an illegal move to attempt to gain height.  Successful or not, its a penalty.  It was a pretty stupid move, and one far more important to drill into players than the 15 minute "How to properly dribble" session that has been proposed as necessary...

Who is their ST coach anyways?  The run out of the endzone to the 2 on ))'s first CFL touch, well, kinda showed that it was his first CFL touch.  Bailed out Leggs, who was trying to get it out inside the 10, and 00 put it out at the 2...

This is not a well coached team.  Stern is right, they have the players, they have the talent to be a much better team than the record, but the coaching sucks, and that starts at the top.
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« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2022, 03:17:26 PM »

I would have liked to see Dru Brown get a few reps, 2 TD lead and Zach banged up, it was the perfect timing to give Dru the final 10 minutes or so.  I don't understand why O'Shea is willing to test-drive every other player on the roster but never give his backup QB a chance to play.

Might be more of an issue trying to get Collaros to sit... he wants every snap, and who is to deny him that...

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« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2022, 03:28:48 PM »

Might be more of an issue trying to get Collaros to sit... he wants every snap, and who is to deny him that...


As much as I would like to see Brown get more reps there really wasn't a lot of opportunity to get him in the game last night. Maybe they could put together a package for him to run but for the most part I would rather have the MOP in the game for us.
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« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2022, 03:32:06 PM »

Might be more of an issue trying to get Collaros to sit... he wants every snap, and who is to deny him that...

That would be the H.C., the QB is not in charge and the team is usually hooped if the backup has no experience and gets thrown into the fire.  I would like them be more proactive than reactive addressing this possibility.
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« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2022, 04:34:24 PM »

That would be the H.C., the QB is not in charge and the team is usually hooped if the backup has no experience and gets thrown into the fire.  I would like them be more proactive than reactive addressing this possibility.

I want a guy that wants every snap.  IF he can "learn" that giving backups some reps in mop up time, sure.  But if it is in his makeup to take every snap, you want to keep him happy.  Last thing you want is to sit him down against his will...
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« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2022, 04:53:50 PM »

I want a guy that wants every snap.  IF he can "learn" that giving backups some reps in mop up time, sure.  But if it is in his makeup to take every snap, you want to keep him happy.  Last thing you want is to sit him down against his will...

I don't understand this view, of course every pro football player wants to play every down, the QB is no different.  That's not the way it works though, each player has a role to play including the backup QB, the starting QB should not have a veto or a vote that carries more weight than his teammates when determining what is best for the team.  It's a team game after all, you're all for allowing the fattest guy in the buffet line to cut in front, just because he wants more for himself. 
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« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2022, 04:59:15 PM »

I am thinking with some.rest and home field advantsge, we 're going to lay a whuppin on the Al s and brown should get an opportunity to get some reps in in front of his home crowd.
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« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2022, 05:10:12 PM »

the Good

1.   was really impressed how the defensive line got pressure from literally everyone.  Only 3 sacks, but Jefferson, Sayles, Hansen also got consistent pressure.  

2.  I thought Winston Rose made some big plays tonight.  the one where he fought through he block to destroy the screen pass was especially good.

3.  Wolitarsky had a great game.  

4.  Oliveira with another solid, solid game.  Especially appreciate the last TD in garbage time, 'cause I picked him in fantasy.  

The Bad

5.  I didn't think Hallett did anything to particularly distinguish himself tonight.

6. 3 interceptions is never good. Fortunately, this did not dissuade Zac from taking his shots.  

7.  Can't be giving up those big returns.  Yikes.

8. We have been inordinately lucky with penalties breaking our way at critical times.  That pyramiding penalty was bizarre.  Nice to catch a break like that, but one of these weeks, we aren't going to dodge that bullet.  And momentum is a funny thing.  

The Ugly

9.  I can't help but be upset when I reflect on next year's CBA. The goofy changes to the ratio are going to steal reps from guys like Wolitarsky, Thomas, and probably Oliverira.  And that's a **** shame.  


You don't need to make a big hit or tackle to be noticeable.  Hallett is no Dequoy, but his coverage skills were decent yesterday.
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« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2022, 05:33:36 PM »

You don't need to make a big hit or tackle to be noticeable.  Hallett is no Dequoy, but his coverage skills were decent yesterday.

Dequoy reminds me of Taylor Loffler, who could also lay the wood, good find for the Als.
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« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2022, 06:04:11 PM »

I don't understand this view, of course every pro football player wants to play every down, the QB is no different.  That's not the way it works though, each player has a role to play including the backup QB, the starting QB should not have a veto or a vote that carries more weight than his teammates when determining what is best for the team.  It's a team game after all, you're all for allowing the fattest guy in the buffet line to cut in front, just because he wants more for himself. 

Two other potential answers:

Does ZC8, due to health questions in the past, have incentives for % snaps taken, or for other stats, yards, completions, etc?  Does taking him off the field take food off his table?

Second, we know what Brown can do, showed it when ZC8 got pulled by the spotter.  giving him more reps might make him more attractive for other teams to poach in the offseason.

Or, do our backups have bonuses for snaps / yards, completions and not ZC8?  Could giving him snaps be an SMS issue?

There are so many reason to make the decision as to who gets snaps.  I'm sure that MOS knows all the factors, and does not make his decision lightly.  Remember, in MOS we trust.
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« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2022, 06:39:20 PM »

I think MOS is only concerned about winning football games, and if anyone has incentives in their contract I m sure that doesn?t even factor into his decisions. I don?t think he?s keeping Brown on the bench for fear someone might poach him, poaching is going to happen, it?s a fact of life?ask Lawler.

We just haven?t had a big enough lead to put Brown in. I think we get up by 21 in the 4th quarter we ll see brown, but a 14 point lead isn?t safe in this league and that?s the primary reason we haven?t seen Brown
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« Reply #35 on: August 05, 2022, 07:47:09 PM »

dd has it right.  The only thing that matters is winning the game.  Fans always want to see the back-up but coaches know what is important.  There will be lots of time for the back-up if and when first place is sewn up and not before.  He may get a quarter or so in a game that is won early but nothing more.
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« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2022, 04:07:50 AM »

Good:
4th qtr
Schoen is so fun to watch.
Woli continues to show he is the most underrated receiver in the CFL.
Oliveira showing flashes of his big bro?#33.
ZC8 has the heart of a lion.
The tired Huggies coming up big in Q4.
The Dark side doing their thing pretty much all game once again?especially the goal line stand.
Grant?s return was executed to perfection.
Leggy?his best game yet!

Bad:
ZC8 in the 1st half
The ball placement in the ALS favour early in the game.
Dequoy was down at the 1 after the INT.
Clock usage at the end of the 1st half.

Ugly:
It?s easy?.The freakin horn!






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