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« Reply #60 on: June 30, 2022, 02:35:49 PM »

Not a Rookie, but this is his first year as starter.

Mitchell came in the same way... Maier looked like a vet starter when pressed into duty when Mitchell couldn't start... just to name a couple actual rookies in their debuts  Again, not sure these discussions happen if BC face WPG or SSK, or HAM on the road game one...  getting served up the EDM Dysfunctions off the hop, and then the MBT meltdown crew was pretty fortunate scheduling.
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« Reply #61 on: June 30, 2022, 02:48:51 PM »

I don't think people or me are being negative. We're just pointing out the opposite where people get carried away in any players early success. Already talk about getting an NFL opportunity for example.

There is an interesting conversation about Rourke and the NFL. It speaks on rookie ELC contracts and how the NFL compares CFL QB's against American draft prospects.

No one is getting carried away.  The Argos have a very good defense and Rourke made them look like a highschool team.  Chris Jones is a defensive genius and yet he couldn't figure Rourke out.

People are excited about Rourke, because he has decent size, mobility, can read a defense, doesn't lock onto his first read and can take a hit and shake it off.  He even worked on learning to throw the ball on him in the offseason.

I had to remind Rider's fans that he did put up almost 200 years and two TDs against them in his first game and he only really played two quarters,because him and Reilly were splitting time.

The kid oozes confidence and his teamates are feeding off of it.  As a starting QB in any league, you keep your foot on the gas.
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« Reply #62 on: June 30, 2022, 03:07:27 PM »

No one is getting carried away.  The Argos have a very good defense and Rourke made them look like a highschool team.  Chris Jones is a defensive genius and yet he couldn't figure Rourke out.

People are excited about Rourke, because he has decent size, mobility, can read a defense, doesn't lock onto his first read and can take a hit and shake it off.  He even worked on learning to throw the ball on him in the offseason.

I had to remind Rider's fans that he did put up almost 200 years and two TDs against them in his first game and he only really played two quarters,because him and Reilly were splitting time.

The kid oozes confidence and his teamates are feeding off of it.  As a starting QB in any league, you keep your foot on the gas.

I'm going to need to see more of the Argos D this year and Chris Jones' decision-making this year before I'd draw either of those conclusions.

Everything you said is true but it remains to be seen if they're true consistently. It's fair to want to see more games before getting carried away.
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« Reply #63 on: June 30, 2022, 05:30:20 PM »

Elks are saying Tre Ford is starting at QB. Looking forward to seeing how he does. Highly regarded coming out of college.
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« Reply #64 on: June 30, 2022, 06:29:13 PM »

Elks are saying Tre Ford is starting at QB. Looking forward to seeing how he does. Highly regarded coming out of college.

They also put Nelson as starting at FS last game.  He was in for maybe 3-4 plays before that changed... Jones has a very fluid idea of "starter"
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« Reply #65 on: June 30, 2022, 06:51:14 PM »

Elks are saying Tre Ford is starting at QB. Looking forward to seeing how he does. Highly regarded coming out of college.

I don't know why Jones would do this, maybe it's just a gesture to Canada Day and he will quickly pull Ford from the game.  The Elks at least have a slight chance of beating Hamilton with Arbuckle, throwing a rookie QB in his first game to the Ti-Cat D, they stand no chance.
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« Reply #66 on: June 30, 2022, 07:31:50 PM »

I don't know why Jones would do this, maybe it's just a gesture to Canada Day and he will quickly pull Ford from the game.  The Elks at least have a chance of beating Hamilton with Arbuckle starting, throwing a rookie QB in his first game to the Ti-Cat D, they stand no chance.

I don't know but I'd like to see Ford get a chance.  Many fans have wanted to see Canadian QB's getting a fair chance and we're starting to see more of that in recent years.
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« Reply #67 on: June 30, 2022, 09:06:16 PM »

I don't know but I'd like to see Ford get a chance.  Many fans have wanted to see Canadian QB's getting a fair chance and we're starting to see more of that in recent years.

Sure, but bring him in at the end of the game if the score is lopsided either way, you don't throw him into the fire when your team is off to a 0-3 start.
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« Reply #68 on: June 30, 2022, 09:09:11 PM »

Sure, but bring him in at the end of the game if the score is lopsided either way, you don't throw him into the fire when your team is off to a 0-3 start.

I agree but Jones is a nut. Ford might see the 1st series and then switch to Arbuckle or Locksley.
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« Reply #69 on: June 30, 2022, 09:14:19 PM »

I don't think people or me are being negative. We're just pointing out the opposite where people get carried away in any players early success. Already talk about getting an NFL opportunity for example.

There is an interesting conversation about Rourke and the NFL. It speaks on rookie ELC contracts and how the NFL compares CFL QB's against American draft prospects.
I for one am glad he?s having success as really he?s by far the biggest surprise and highlight this year. Lots of players signed for more money this season?-hello mr Lawler!!! And have done squat to earn that pay cheque, which commonly happens. Still, glad Rourke is ripping it up and keep it up!!

Agree the NFL talks are very premature at this point. Let?s just enjoy the moment and let things unfold as they will
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« Reply #70 on: June 30, 2022, 09:19:37 PM »

I for one am glad he?s having success as really he?s by far the biggest surprise and highlight this year. Lots of players signed for more money this season?-hello mr Lawler!!! And have done squat to earn that pay cheque, which commonly happens. Still, glad Rourke is ripping it up and keep it up!!

Agree the NFL talks are very premature at this point. Let?s just enjoy the moment and let things unfold as they will

I'm looking forward to watching Rourke play against the Redblacks. Also wanting to see if he Redblacks are as tough defensively as they looked against the Bombers.

Lots of potential injuries for both teams so not sure who will play and who won't. Obviously Lions lost Burnham but several starters are questionable.

Lawler has played well in Edmonton but the team is not very good. He is the highest targeted receiver in the CFL and had the most receptions.

Lions appear to be a much better team than in 2021.

A good QB surrounded by a good team around him has a good chance to succeed. On a bad team things might not look as good but the QB always takes the heat.
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« Reply #71 on: June 30, 2022, 10:42:37 PM »

Interesting that Bo Lokombo is listed as one of the starting LB's after being knocked out cold in the Argo game just 5 days ago.  The players need to stand up for their own personal safety as the CFL, the CFLPA, and team doctors only pay lip-service to CTE, and in reality don't give a crap.

A friend of my son was concussed while mountain biking this past week, although he did not lose consciousness, the brain specialist advised 4-6 weeks before he could resume vigorous riding and that was only after a final checkup.
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« Reply #72 on: June 30, 2022, 11:17:20 PM »

It?s the dark ugly truth about professional sports....they all say they have concussion protocols but in reality, it?s all about winning and teams couldn?t care less if you?re a vegetable year?s down the line. The league has got to mandate and enforce recovery protocols done by independent third party not team doctors.
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« Reply #73 on: July 03, 2022, 12:55:04 AM »

He is good but shown his weakness.  I love his play and yes we need to be ready.  Simply put we bring the heat and we are ok.
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« Reply #74 on: July 03, 2022, 04:15:06 AM »

He is good but shown his weakness.  I love his play and yes we need to be ready.  Simply put we bring the heat and we are ok.
yes he has many weaknesses....like averaging over 350 yards passing in 3 games with 2 interceptions and 9 TDs.   Oh and he's 4th in rushing averaging over 12 YPC with two TDs and 180 yards...,which is more than our two RBs combined! He leads the league in efficiency at 135%!!   He has been hit hard and shakes it off and doesn't seem to get rattled easily.
I'm still looking for his weaknesses and I'm sure the Bombers will be as well.    Seriously this guy has been nothing short of a phenom and you're  talking about his weaknesses??

Yeah, I'm sure he has some....like maybe brunettes or pistachio ice cream....or maybe Miss Vickie's....or puppies!   
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