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« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2022, 02:57:19 PM »

Canadian QB comments aside, Rourke has been very impressive regardless of his nationality. He has a very good skill set and is reading defences very well this early in his career. I can't think of many QB's making their 2nd start as the # 1QB throwing for over 400 yards.

His OL has given him time to make his progressions, but I don't think their OL is as good as it has looked. If they struggle against better front 7's we'll see how Rourke does under pressure. So far his athleticism has prevailed and it may continue even under better pressure.

It's a small sample size and other new QB's starting for their teams have looked good but not so much as more games have been played: Arbuckle and Evans to name a couple.

Will Rourke be the next to struggle after a few more games or will he be the next Dickerson?

QB's have long development curves and there will be ups and downs. Dunigan mentioned it took him 8 years to feel comfortable and be able to " see " the field.

I do wonder how 8 teams decided to not draft Rourke and how he didn't get picked until the 2nd round? Amazing.
The first and last great Canadian QB was Russ Jackson....he had it all....running and passing ability and smarts.   Can't emphasize the smarts enough.    I know it's only two games in but they have the best points spread between O and D in the CFL!    They play on the road next against another revamped Ottawa team.   If they win big in Ottawa then we know they are for real.    Ottawa is motivated to win their first game of the year and wouldn't want to go down 0-3.    But then again it's the East division who have a combine 2 wins in 10 games! 
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« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2022, 03:03:42 PM »

Canadian QB comments aside, Rourke has been very impressive regardless of his nationality. He has a very good skill set and is reading defences very well this early in his career. I can't think of many QB's making their 2nd start as the # 1QB throwing for over 400 yards.

His OL has given him time to make his progressions, but I don't think their OL is as good as it has looked. If they struggle against better front 7's we'll see how Rourke does under pressure. So far his athleticism has prevailed and it may continue even under better pressure.

It's a small sample size and other new QB's starting for their teams have looked good but not so much as more games have been played: Arbuckle and Evans to name a couple.

Will Rourke be the next to struggle after a few more games or will he be the next Dickerson?

QB's have long development curves and there will be ups and downs. Dunigan mentioned it took him 8 years to feel comfortable and be able to " see " the field.

I do wonder how 8 teams decided to not draft Rourke and how he didn't get picked until the 2nd round? Amazing.

Not so unusual, the supply of QB's has always come from the US, drafting a Cdn. QB is fairly rare, especially in the early rounds.  Good thing someone in BC saw his potential and took a flyer on him. 

Question is, who is the genius behind BC's resurgence?  I'm guessing it's not Rick Campbell.  I don't know how up to date the Lions website is as it still mentions Ed Hervey as the GM but it looks like Neil McEvoy and Ryan Rigmaiden are probably the architects.
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« Reply #32 on: June 26, 2022, 03:24:32 PM »

Very impressive start for the Canadian rookie QB!   All time passing yardage record for a Canadian QB.   He was 39 for 45 with 4 TDs!   That's off the charts!    Is TO that bad or is BC that good?   

Waiting for TSN to rebroadcast to watch the full game, but from the highlight package the Argo secondary coverage looked awful, receivers completely uncovered in the endzone!  Bombers get a crack at them in 2 weeks at BC stadium on a short week so less than ideal, but we'll see then how well Rourke fairs against a stout defence.
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« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2022, 03:32:13 PM »

Not so unusual, the supply of QB's has always come from the US, drafting a Cdn. QB is fairly rare, especially in the early rounds.  Good thing someone in BC saw his potential and took a flyer on him. 

Question is, who is the genius behind BC's resurgence?  I'm guessing it's not Rick Campbell.  I don't know how up to date the Lions website is as it still mentions Ed Hervey as the GM but it looks like Neil McEvoy and Ryan Rigmaiden are probably the architects.

I don't know exactly how much Rourke is earning. However when your starting QB is earning less than $200K ( as an example ) it allows a team to spend more freely elsewhere in free agency. In that sense it's not rocket science as far as a rebuilding tool.

Of course it doesn't always work out that way or teams wouldn't pay top QB's $400K- $550K.

Rourke could be a franchise QB for the Lions for a decade or could leave for another team if he reaches free agency. Ask me in a decade. I hope he becomes a hall of fame QB in Vancouver and doesn't hope from team to team.
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« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2022, 03:39:23 PM »

I should have been cheering for the Argos to beat a team in our division, but just couldn't do it. Rourke is a great story for the Lions and the league. I'm hoping the Lions start to fill up the dome so we can hate them again.
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« Reply #35 on: June 26, 2022, 04:31:38 PM »

I don't know exactly how much Rourke is earning. However when your starting QB is earning less than $200K ( as an example ) it allows a team to spend more freely elsewhere in free agency. In that sense it's not rocket science as far as a rebuilding tool.

Of course it doesn't always work out that way or teams wouldn't pay top QB's $400K- $550K.

Rourke could be a franchise QB for the Lions for a decade or could leave for another team if he reaches free agency. Ask me in a decade. I hope he becomes a hall of fame QB in Vancouver and doesn't hope from team to team.

It would be a killer for the Lions if the NFL snapped him up next season and he wastes 3-4 years of his young career hopping about between various PR lists.  The NFL is a giant meat grinder, so many players fed in end up with no meaningful action, achievements, or careers.  I wonder when Strev. will finally realize this.
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« Reply #36 on: June 26, 2022, 04:48:35 PM »

It would be a killer for the Lions if the NFL snapped him up next season and he wastes 3-4 years of his young career hopping about between various PR lists.  The NFL is a giant meat grinder, so many players fed in end up with no meaningful action, achievements, or careers.  I wonder when Strev. will finally realize this.

Oh the NFL will snap him up next year.
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« Reply #37 on: June 26, 2022, 05:12:43 PM »

Oh the NFL will snap him up next year.

Posters probably said that about Arbuckle and Evans too. NFL has never shown much interest in QB's from Canada. Streveler was more of a unique mix of talents but not what you'd call a starting QB. He's bounced around and made some money but currently a free agent.

Frankly I'll be surprised if Rourke ends up in the NFL in 2023. A new team in the CFL maybe but the Lions will offer him more money if he continues to do well.
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« Reply #38 on: June 26, 2022, 05:27:25 PM »

It would be a killer for the Lions if the NFL snapped him up next season and he wastes 3-4 years of his young career hopping about between various PR lists.  The NFL is a giant meat grinder, so many players fed in end up with no meaningful action, achievements, or careers.  I wonder when Strev. will finally realize this.
Strev has made more money in his time on the PR in 2 years than he would have made in a career in the cfl, he?s too busy planning what he?s going to do after football/ retirement life. He s never coming back to the cfl, why would he?? Risk injury for chump change!?! Not likely
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« Reply #39 on: June 26, 2022, 05:43:51 PM »

Posters probably said that about Arbuckle and Evans too. NFL has never shown much interest in QB's from Canada. Streveler was more of a unique mix of talents but not what you'd call a starting QB. He's bounced around and made some money but currently a free agent.

Frankly I'll be surprised if Rourke ends up in the NFL in 2023. A new team in the CFL maybe but the Lions will offer him more money if he continues to do well.

I think Jeff Garcia was the last CFL QB to succeed in the NFL, if so that was over 20 years ago.  Dave Dickenson went after him, but he never made it past 3rd string on any of the NFL teams he played for.
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« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2022, 05:47:50 PM »

Strev has made more money in his time on the PR in 2 years than he would have made in a career in the cfl, he?s too busy planning what he?s going to do after football/ retirement life. He s never coming back to the cfl, why would he?? Risk injury for chump change!?! Not likely

You could be right, but why pursue a football career in the first place?  Surely the allure is more than just a way to make money?
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« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2022, 06:21:54 PM »

Strev has made more money in his time on the PR in 2 years than he would have made in a career in the cfl, he?s too busy planning what he?s going to do after football/ retirement life. He s never coming back to the cfl, why would he?? Risk injury for chump change!?! Not likely

He's currently a free agent, so he's not making any money right now. He could certainly return to the CFL and it wouldn't be necessarily be "chump change" considering what he brings to the table.

How do you know he's planning what to do after football?
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« Reply #42 on: June 26, 2022, 06:23:58 PM »

Rourke has the size and all the tools the NFL likes. Very good arm, quick release, runs very well, and he makes good decisions with the ball.
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« Reply #43 on: June 26, 2022, 06:34:57 PM »

I don't know exactly how much Rourke is earning. However when your starting QB is earning less than $200K ( as an example ) it allows a team to spend more freely elsewhere in free agency. In that sense it's not rocket science as far as a rebuilding tool.

Of course it doesn't always work out that way or teams wouldn't pay top QB's $400K- $550K.

Rourke could be a franchise QB for the Lions for a decade or could leave for another team if he reaches free agency. Ask me in a decade. I hope he becomes a hall of fame QB in Vancouver and doesn't hope from team to team.

As far as I know, Rourke is making the basic low end entry salary.  That is one reason BC could pick up and pay good players.  Next season will be a different story and the Lions will have to pay him much more.  Now the SMS will make keeping other high end players questionable.
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« Reply #44 on: June 26, 2022, 06:59:11 PM »

Rourke has the size and all the tools the NFL likes. Very good arm, quick release, runs very well, and he makes good decisions with the ball.

Him and 50 QB's that will be available in the 2023 NFL draft. It's been 2 games. Relax and see how things work out.
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