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Blue In BC
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« Reply #435 on: May 26, 2022, 06:12:06 PM »

A slight reduction allows the league to just reduce it more next time.  It's time Canadians stood up for Canadians, we let Mulroney screw us with NAFTA, we won't let the CFL, do it to Canadians.

Next time is 7 years from now. Poor argument.  NHL or NBA has no ratio so why does that not fall into your thinking?

What about the 100's if not 1,000's of team staff, coaches,  parking, concessions, advertisers, ticket takers, ticket sellers, maintenance that have jobs due to the CFL.

Bars, restaurants, hotels, airlines, apartment rentals by players.



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« Reply #436 on: May 26, 2022, 06:38:31 PM »

For what it's worth, and you can definitely take it with a grain of salt, I believe the current thinking is the  season is going to be a go, including tomorrow's pre-season game. Smiley
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« Reply #437 on: May 26, 2022, 07:00:10 PM »

That assumption isn't correct, yet. The Argos also have a pre-season game tomorrow and they released a statement they aren't flying today but would fly day-of should there be a game. I imagine Edmonton would take the same approach. The league imposed deadline was set to tonight at 11:00 pm CST so they knew it would come down to the wire.

Never assume I guess?.



John Hodge
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BREAKING: the CFL and CFLPA have come to a new tentative collective bargaining agreement. Details coming soon to
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2:43 PM ? May 26, 2022?Twitter Web App

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« Reply #438 on: May 26, 2022, 07:11:18 PM »

Never assume I guess?.



John Hodge
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BREAKING: the CFL and CFLPA have come to a new tentative collective bargaining agreement. Details coming soon to
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Well if this is true, because we thought this was done a week ago, it would be excellent news.

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« Reply #439 on: May 26, 2022, 07:30:22 PM »

We'll be interested in the details but the reality is we'll be happy they've come to an agreement.

Let the games begin.

EDIT: Only info I can find is an increase in ratification bonus from $1M to $1.25M. Requires a vote today.
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« Reply #440 on: May 26, 2022, 08:24:12 PM »

Told y'all they'd get it done.  Both sides lose if they miss the PS games and go back to the clean slate drawing board.

Bonus going up is the smart, cheap, easy move by the league.  Keep upping it by 1/4 mil until it's too hard to resist.

Bringing back the 51/49 thing is asinine.  I hope that's just mis-reporting.  6+1 will be fine, but players are right, it is the camel's nose in the tent.  League will want another +1 next time.  But I think that battle is lost for now; fight it later.  As previous posts pointed out, the ratio has been tweaked many times over the years and we're still good, so maybe it'll be ok this time too.

Lalji on TSN says the league has reiterated it will not entertain anymore more than 6+1. He said it's more than just one roster spot, it's a philosophical issue that aligns with the future direction of the league.

Not sure what the league's actual words were, but letting that tidbit out is a mistake as it proves the slippery slope is real.  Maybe they really do want to abolish the ratio and become "mini NFL north".  Regardless, the league should have kept that part unsaid.  If I was a NAT looking at this contract, that type of statement might really make me stop and think.
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« Reply #441 on: May 26, 2022, 08:38:56 PM »

Told y'all they'd get it done.  Both sides lose if they miss the PS games and go back to the clean slate drawing board.

Bonus going up is the smart, cheap, easy move by the league.  Keep upping it by 1/4 mil until it's too hard to resist.

Bringing back the 51/49 thing is asinine.  I hope that's just mis-reporting.  6+1 will be fine, but players are right, it is the camel's nose in the tent.  League will want another +1 next time.  But I think that battle is lost for now; fight it later.  As previous posts pointed out, the ratio has been tweaked many times over the years and we're still good, so maybe it'll be ok this time too.

Not sure what the league's actual words were, but letting that tidbit out is a mistake as it proves the slippery slope is real.  Maybe they really do want to abolish the ratio and become "mini NFL north".  Regardless, the league should have kept that part unsaid.  If I was a NAT looking at this contract, that type of statement might really make me stop and think.


Not the league's actual words. Lalji's words which was a reporting of a conversation he must have had with someone.
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« Reply #442 on: May 26, 2022, 08:39:57 PM »

@FarhanLaljiTSN
Here?s the CBA ratio adjustments: Rolling ratio (Nationalized US can play up to 49% of snaps): 2 in 2023.@CFL has the right to move it to 3 in 2024 if they believe it is working. The 2 teams with the most # of cdn snaps in any given season will be given an extra 2nd round pick

But it is staying at 7 not 8 like negotiating before:

@FarhanLaljiTSN
Yes. So 5 and 2 in 2023, likely followed by 4 and 3 in 2024

Down to mandatory 4 Canadian starters by 2024! I am happy!
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« Reply #443 on: May 26, 2022, 08:42:02 PM »

Told y'all they'd get it done.  Both sides lose if they miss the PS games and go back to the clean slate drawing board.

Bonus going up is the smart, cheap, easy move by the league.  Keep upping it by 1/4 mil until it's too hard to resist.

Bringing back the 51/49 thing is asinine.  I hope that's just mis-reporting.  6+1 will be fine, but players are right, it is the camel's nose in the tent.  League will want another +1 next time.  But I think that battle is lost for now; fight it later.  As previous posts pointed out, the ratio has been tweaked many times over the years and we're still good, so maybe it'll be ok this time too.

Not sure what the league's actual words were, but letting that tidbit out is a mistake as it proves the slippery slope is real.  Maybe they really do want to abolish the ratio and become "mini NFL north".  Regardless, the league should have kept that part unsaid.  If I was a NAT looking at this contract, that type of statement might really make me stop and think.


Unless if I?m missing something but it?s not a done deal yet, they players can still vote no?
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« Reply #444 on: May 26, 2022, 08:43:57 PM »

Unless if I?m missing something but it?s not a done deal yet, they players can still vote no?

Correct. Players are voting now. Results should be in by 9 PM est. Source:

@sportsdanbarnes
Have been told that the result of the #CFLPA membership vote on the tentative CBA with the #CFL should be known by about 9 p.m. eastern. Well within the CFL deadline of midnight.
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« Reply #445 on: May 26, 2022, 09:08:15 PM »

Another new relevant detail.

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3 completed years on 1 team or 6 completed years in the league

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« Reply #446 on: May 26, 2022, 09:21:12 PM »

So we are playing tomorrow?
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« Reply #447 on: May 26, 2022, 09:24:25 PM »

@FarhanLaljiTSN
Here?s the CBA ratio adjustments: Rolling ratio (Nationalized US can play up to 49% of snaps): 2 in 2023.@CFL has the right to move it to 3 in 2024 if they believe it is working. The 2 teams with the most # of cdn snaps in any given season will be given an extra 2nd round pick

But it is staying at 7 not 8 like negotiating before:

@FarhanLaljiTSN
Yes. So 5 and 2 in 2023, likely followed by 4 and 3 in 2024

Down to mandatory 4 Canadian starters by 2024! I am happy!

I am not happy about only having 4 mandatory Canadian starters. Terrible idea.
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« Reply #448 on: May 26, 2022, 09:27:02 PM »

So we are playing tomorrow?

We should know by 9/9:30 tonight. Either leaving for the lake in the morning, or get ready for some football.
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« Reply #449 on: May 26, 2022, 09:41:23 PM »

I am not happy about only having 4 mandatory Canadian starters. Terrible idea.

It's fantastic. If the players vote for this one they are a bit daft though. They rejected a bunch of deals that kept more of the ratio intact already.
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