Started by theaardvark, May 06, 2022, 02:56:55 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 24, 2022, 07:40:26 PM@TSNDaveNaylorJust spoke to commissioner @RandyAmbrosieand got details on @CFL?s new offer to players:? league provides $1 million ratification bonus to players. But removes $450k from 2022 cap and $675 in guarantees in ?28. The ?28 cap may not be affected if revenue sharing kicks-in#CFL@TSNDaveNaylorLeague also proposes moving back to ratio model of 6 true Canadians and one Naturalized American. (Which was in their May 14th proposal). #CFL #CFLPA@TSNDaveNaylorAmbrosie said if latest offer rejected and games are missed, offer will suffer. ?There is no way we can get back to the quality of deal that we have on the table today.? #CFL #CFLPA@TSNDaveNaylorDeadline for players to accept latest offer is Thursday midnight ? Eastern time. #CFL #CFLPA
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 24, 2022, 07:52:39 PMHave you looked at what we pay many of our starting imports?
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 24, 2022, 07:56:48 PMYou think the ratio exists because government(s) provided funds to build the stadium or stadiums around the country?And the building the Jets now play in got funds (and continue to get $40M+ a year in tax breaks) because the AHL and NHL have a ratio or have I been overlooking that rule? The only mandate(s) the league has is set by the league under the direction of Ambrose. They aren't the government and they wrap their marketing in Canadiana because it sells.
Quote from: Jesse on May 24, 2022, 08:05:25 PMNot sure the point you're trying to make here. Can you expand?Two separate points. If the league didn't have a mandate to: help grow the game of football in Canada, employ Canadians, try to keep Canadian funds in Canada - why would there be a ratio? There is a ratio, because that is one of the mandates of the league.Because there is that ratio, that mandate, the government provides money to help that goal. Now, obviously there is a different level of commitment to hockey in our Country. We do not have a hockey league like the CFL in Canada - our guys go straight to the NHL. Not sure if comparisons work between the two.
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 24, 2022, 08:11:20 PMThe starting imports take the largest portion of the total SMS. Yes Canadians starting can get well paid as well due to the league supply and demand. They are a small group on the entire roster in that category.Couture and A. Harris gets $160K IIRC. While you could technically replace them with an import for less, at some point that import wants that big paycheck. Lawler at $300K in season 3. Richardson about $160K as well. If there was no ratio that would be less of an issue. Whether there are 5 or 7 true Canadian starters none of that changes. The top dog gets a bigger piece of the pie and even then may choose a new city in free agency. Seller's market.Teams spend their SMS every year making decisions across the entire roster.
Quote from: Jesse on May 24, 2022, 08:16:29 PMI think it'd be more along the lines of paying Jake Thomas less to pay a [insert back-up American DT] more. Probably not a lot of movement on the top end guys.
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 24, 2022, 08:28:58 PMExcept that the back up DT is probably either a 1st or 2nd year player on an ELC. Thomas might not be getting a big paycheck but based on the Oliveria and Augustine getting $90K, he can't be to far off?But. There is always a but. If Thomas was a potential free agent in 2023 and offered less money, another team might offer him more due to their specific need across their roster.
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 24, 2022, 08:03:16 PMIt was reported that most teams already spent most of the 2022 SMS. How do you reduce it under those circumstances? $1M is not a small ratification bonus!! I assume that only the AR and IR players would qualify?Still don't like the naturalized American idea even though teams no longer need that 7th actual Canadian starting. I'm guessing either Bryant or Hardrick will be that player. If there is an in game injury we'd have one of the two back up Canadian OL step up. Next game either one of the import OL is back or he's replaced by an import OL off the PR. Whichever import OL wasn't the nationalized player would switch to the other one still standing.Picking another import veteran would be more problematic IMO.The real question is which Canadian no longer starts? Wolitarsky or Thomas seem to be the only choices.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 24, 2022, 08:59:26 PMI'm sure it can be ANY player who meets the criteria and it won't have to be declared. It will be Bryant and Hardrick and all the rest of them. The league is trying to cut out mandatory Canadians so it will be in their interest to inforce and interpret it as loosely as possible. The reality is that teams will start 6 Canadians and then just have to make sure they have at least one player on the field who has been in the league for five years or three years on your team. Won't be hard.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 24, 2022, 07:40:26 PM@TSNDaveNaylorJust spoke to commissioner @RandyAmbrosieand got details on @CFL?s new offer to players:? league provides $1 million ratification bonus to players. But removes $450k from 2022 cap and $675 in guarantees in ?28. The ?28 cap may not be affected if revenue sharing kicks-in#CFL
Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 24, 2022, 09:19:56 PM$1M per team? or $1M shared over the whole league? Who pays the $1M? The league?$450k cap reduction, is for sure per-team right?If the $1M is per team right now vs a $450k cap reduction, and they are dropping the 3-FAKENAT rule, then you sign this deal right now. It's a good deal. I'm glad to see Ambrosie is playing ball. No one wants missed games.Now, on to bookkeeping: most teams have spent to their 2022 cap already... so how do they retroactively change contracts to achieve the $450k reduction?? Sounds like a big headache for GMs.P.S. Who cares about 2028
Quote from: Jesse on May 24, 2022, 09:25:22 PMThe CFL seems to word things from a league perspective.I?m guessing the 450 cap reduction is actually 50k per team.The million would also be divided across the league (bonuses based on some sort of seniority scale?).