Started by theaardvark, May 06, 2022, 02:56:55 PM
Quote from: Jesse on May 15, 2022, 11:37:37 PMAt the start of this, the PA said injuries had reduced by 31%
Quote from: Lincoln Locomotive on May 16, 2022, 04:15:25 PMhttps://winnipegsun.com/sports/football/cfl/winnipeg-bluebombers/i-stand-with-my-teammates-blue-bombers-players-are-on-strike
Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 16, 2022, 08:18:18 PMThis is a very good article and Biggie lays out what the CFLPA's problems are. I find myself agreeing with almost everything he says and, as usual, Biggie presents a reasonable argument.And these issues aren't really that big a gap, so I'm optimistic both sides will get it done.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 16, 2022, 08:13:43 PMMaybe "all injuries" including minor ones. There's no way that the entirety of 2021 experienced less "season ending" injuries. No one here has ever seen that many in one year.Maybe they fudge it by saying "TC wasn't practice"... as technically it's TC, not practice. I would say you have to look at the whole season (including pre and post season) in its entirety. Almost all the achilles occurred in TC.They may also be talking specifically about practice injuries (with or without TC) and excluding gameday injuries. It could be the case that practice injuries were reduced but gameday injuries increased. Who is to say that the lack of "rough practice" didn't prime players (less loose, in shape, etc) for the gameday injuries.I don't have the answers, but I know what I saw in 2021 and I know that major injuries were not down 31% in 2021 as a whole. I also agree with a vast majority (strangely, even Ambrosie) that play quality has suffered from lack of pads.
Quote from: TBURGESS on May 16, 2022, 09:04:26 PMI don't agree on revenue sharing audits, unless the CFLPA is willing to share in losses as well as revenue. We all know they're not interested in that. I don't believe the 33% reduction in injuries and would like to see the data that they are using. The CFL isn't a touch football league. Both players and management know that. Players need to practice giving and taking hits. Lineman especially need padded practices. Adding less than 1 padded practice a week isn't unreasonable even if injuries go up a bit. I agree with Bighill/CFLPA on term and expiry date.
Quote from: Jesse on May 17, 2022, 01:09:03 AMDidn't they share in losses in 2020 when all their contracts were cancelled for the year?And in 2021 when not only did they renegotiate their deals, but then also were cut again with the loss of games?
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 16, 2022, 09:11:18 PMI don't agree on revenue sharing at the best of times. Any of the players pay for the building and up keep of stadiums? Football players still fall into the category of employees not owners. They don't share in losses so why should they share in revenue?Also don't know why the league should support a player in his transition beyond football. A football career could be a year of 15 years. College, off season jobs are what players should be looking into. If any player gets to the end of his sports career and doesn't have a plan that's on him.
Quote from: Pete on May 17, 2022, 01:54:11 AMThe players seem to feel that they have been taken advantage of in past agreements, but I don't see the teams getting any richer. There certainly not new owners lining up to buy teams. Trying to get more share of revenues doesn't make sense.
Quote from: Jesse on May 17, 2022, 12:25:56 PMThe problem is, the owners aren't being transparent. They're saying this is the number, trust us. I feel like we'd have a deal if the league negotiated in good faith, rather than trying to run roughshod over the players.