Started by Lake Winnipeg, March 19, 2022, 04:14:21 AM
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 08, 2022, 08:14:59 PMYour observations are correct but you have not presented a solution, just a change.
Quote from: TBURGESS on April 08, 2022, 09:14:51 PMThe 'New' CFL wouldn't last long directly competing for fans with the NFL and having nothing but some Canadian players to differentiate it from the NFL. The CFL would go the way of the XFL and the USFL pretty quickly IMO. Us old folks saved the CFL many times in the past and once we're gone, I don't like the CFL's chances of remaining. The 18-25 demo have already made their choice and that's the NFL. Changing to NFL rules won't bring them over to the CFL. It will just solidify the second rate nature of the CFL in their minds.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on April 08, 2022, 06:48:22 PMOkay, but, and please bear with me, the CFL might not be able to afford the best players, coaches or stadiums but they could align the product to more closely resemble the NFL game. This could be a logical choice if the current market trends continue and NFL interest amongst young people continues to climb (while simultaneously, CFL interest in those demos continues to fall).
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on April 08, 2022, 08:49:21 PMI would go to a 4 down style game, same field dimensions as NFL with 11 men on the field. I would market it as a "new" CFL and try to align and work more closely with the NFL. I would go after those growing market segments of Canadian fans from the all important 18-35 demo who watch the NFL but not CFL. I think that's the lowest hanging fruit and a potential easier audience to grow/sustain the CFL over the longer term. This would align our game not only with the NFL, but every single other country (globals, whom it seems as though we still feel is an important audience).The tricky part is timing. Do it too soon and you might lose too many existing fans (the aging ones won't be there forever but they're largely still paying the bills). Do it too late and there might not be a league left to save. As a guess, I'd probably work towards a goal of five years before implementation and from then to now start to get existing fans mentality prepared for the change through formal communications, leaks and pre-season experiment. You'd have some mad folks but some would be optimistic as well. Change is usually exciting if nothing else. If it's foreshadowed for long enough people will have time to get used to it. The CFL adopted the forward pass in 1929, and I can only assume there were a lot of mad existing fans. Running it forward was the way it always was after all and everyone knows that's the way football should be! The thing about change is once people get used to it, it can open a lot of possibilities. If not, I think the data appears to be showing we can also choose the stay the course and accept a somewhat reduced following with a less profitable business. The pro to that scenario is we didn't do anything to change which may be a victory enough for some, but not for me. (And for the record, if you are in the camp of let's stay the course and see what happens, that's totally fine. I think that's perfectly valid. Just not my preferred approach. I think we've been doing that for the better part of 20 years and something big needs to occur to stay relevant.)
Quote from: Blue In BC on April 09, 2022, 01:46:09 PMYou're entitled to your opinion but I think this is the worst idea I've ever heard on this forum. There have been some doozies in the past but this would be the end of the CFL IMO. Incremental changes are fine and the game has changed dramatically since the early days. Roster sizes have increased and rules have been modified. I'd say the technical improvements ( replay ) had helped see what needs to change in rules as an example. Replays have been useful. More cameras and better trained refs etc.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on April 09, 2022, 03:27:49 PMIt's not going to be popular idea amongst die hard CFL fans of which this forum is certainly comprised of. On the one hand, it's probably not a good idea to upset your most ardent supporters. On the other hand, there doesn't appear to be enough of us across the country and the numbers I have seen show regression. Does Toronto just limp along indefinitely? If BC continues to slide backwards can two of the nine teams continue to run deficients? The prairie teams need someone to play against and with a form of revenue sharing now in place we all are going to start paying for no one showing up in Toronto or BC.
Quote from: TBURGESS on April 09, 2022, 04:07:47 PMDoes changing the rules to NFL rules fix anything? Does it mean more fans in the stands and more eyes on the TV? I don't think so.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on April 09, 2022, 12:35:31 AMI could point out how a startup league is very different from an established league changing around some rules to entice new fans but I'll just close by saying, obviously, we all get to find out how things go. I will repeat that the league has a lot of good things going for it but also some major challenges and some pretty concerning data emerging about fans of the future. The four down idea might never take root in the CFL but I do think there will be some big changes needed in the future to help grow the league (or at least find a way to forecast a break even scenario of young fans to old). I don't think that new billboards, an app or podcast is going to do anything. It's going to need to be big, bold and different and it's going to have to fundamentally change the product. Of course, just my opinion. Happy to be wrong as I absolutely love the league. If things we're going great there would be no need to have this discussion at all.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 09, 2022, 06:07:28 PMI could point out that changing the very nature of the CFL game and rebranding it CFL 2.0 (as per your notion) effectively is a start up league...