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« on: January 04, 2022, 11:26:05 PM »

https://3downnation.com/2022/01/04/canadian-ol-drew-desjarlais-drawing-significant-interest-from-nfl-teams/
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2022, 12:57:48 PM »

I wish him success in his bid to land an NFL contract. That's a lot of interest already down there. However, I know we'd all be very happy if he was to return to Winnipeg.  Odds are against us at the moment.
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2022, 01:34:16 PM »

I wish him success in his bid to land an NFL contract. That's a lot of interest already down there. However, I know we'd all be very happy if he was to return to Winnipeg.  Odds are against us at the moment.

I think it is almost a slam dunk that Drew will at least get a futures contract in the NFL. I wish him the very best of luck and in a year or two, or even this August, if he becomes available I hope Winnipeg is his preferred destination in the CFL.
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2022, 01:52:16 PM »

This is really an opportunity for Gray.  He has put in his time as part of the unit, and with Desjarlais and Eli likely moving on, one of the OG spots is his for the taking.
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2022, 02:36:35 PM »

It's a small risk for Drew. He'd be foolish to not accept some sort of NFL futures contract. Even if he ends up on a PR for awhile he could be 1 or 2 injuries away from a game day roster.

A yard off the ball might be difficult to overcome initially but other Canadian OL have succeeded in that transition.

At worst he is unsuccessful at making even any NFL PR and he returns to the CFL. He'd immediately get multiple offers and a hefty raise from his ELC.
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2022, 03:34:49 AM »

Hope he makes it
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2022, 12:55:34 PM »

Wish Drew and other Canadian players the best of luck, hope they make some NFL cash.
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2022, 08:34:37 AM »

It's every player's dream to make it to the NFL to earn the big bucks and play in front of big crowds.  Good luck to Drew if he is able to make it.  Many players make it but eventually get cut but at least they made some good bucks before leaving.
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2022, 10:51:44 PM »

It's every player's dream to make it to the NFL to earn the big bucks and play in front of big crowds.  Good luck to Drew if he is able to make it.  Many players make it but eventually get cut but at least they made some good bucks before leaving.
Hope he can make a career and draw a pension
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2022, 11:13:44 PM »

The guy hasn't even signed a contract and you are talking pension!  My God!

Also why is it every time a CFL lineman goes south, it's a
Ways noted that the guy will have trouble with a guy lined up an inch apart.

Have you ever blocked anybody? That would be easier.  The defensive guy loses mobility, is engaged immediately, and the options reduced.
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2022, 01:24:42 AM »

The guy hasn't even signed a contract and you are talking pension!  My God!

Also why is it every time a CFL lineman goes south, it's a
Ways noted that the guy will have trouble with a guy lined up an inch apart.

Have you ever blocked anybody? That would be easier.  The defensive guy loses mobility, is engaged immediately, and the options reduced.
I some agree fans on here need to take a breather.   Wink
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2022, 01:09:19 PM »

The guy hasn't even signed a contract and you are talking pension!  My God!

Also why is it every time a CFL lineman goes south, it's a
Ways noted that the guy will have trouble with a guy lined up an inch apart.

Have you ever blocked anybody? That would be easier.  The defensive guy loses mobility, is engaged immediately, and the options reduced.

It's an adjustment that some OL have difficulty with in the transition. It happens for some of those coming North and for some of those going South. It's not a difficult concept to understand.
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2022, 02:27:07 PM »

It is not easier to block a guy in 4 down football. That is just fallacy. Guys going from 3 down to 4 down can definitely struggle with the difference. Timing, footwork, etc are all different. Some guys adjust but some guys don't. Same is true for IMP OL coming to the CFL. A stud like Hardrick took 2 years and 3 teams before he was able to make the adjustment for instance.
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2022, 04:26:22 PM »

If Drew picks the right team in need of interior OL he has a good chance of sticking for at least awhile. He's still very young and a given team might be willing to invest some time in further development.

He should have a discussion with Gray about the prospects and / or challenges in the NFL.

However some Canadian OL have succeeded and there is no immediate indication he couldn't do the same.
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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2022, 04:50:03 PM »

If Drew picks the right team in need of interior OL he has a good chance of sticking for at least awhile. He's still very young and a given team might be willing to invest some time in further development.

He should have a discussion with Gray about the prospects and / or challenges in the NFL.

However some Canadian OL have succeeded and there is no immediate indication he couldn't do the same.


The NFL DTs are big son of a guns. It will be interesting to see if he can handle it.
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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2022, 04:52:23 PM »

The NFL DTs are big son of a guns. It will be interesting to see if he can handle it.

I noticed some comments on the weekend during NFL games that many DT's were really big in the 350 -370 lb range. It could factor in since he's not the biggest OG but he could always continue to gain weight and strength?
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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2022, 04:55:53 PM »

I noticed some comments on the weekend during NFL games that many DT's were really big in the 350 -370 lb range. It could factor in since he's not the biggest OG but he could always continue to gain weight?

They are chunks over there and tall as well. Big dudes. Drew may be great at handling the beef or he may not be. We'll see I guess.
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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2022, 05:46:08 PM »

Dobson was picked 3rd in the 2021 draft. I thought he'd have a good chance to make the roster in 2022. That's even more true with the expectation of losing Desjarlais and Eli.

Anybody know much about how he did in college this past season?
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2022, 06:45:12 PM »

I just noticed Cody Speller is an Argo F.A. as is Drake Nevis, two solid players that could fill holes if necessary. I would also keep my eye on a couple of Argo receivers if the Bombers lose Lawler, Brescacin, Josh Huff and DaVaris Daniels are all F.A.'s.
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2022, 08:46:05 PM »

I just noticed Cody Speller is an Argo F.A. as is Drake Nevis, two solid players that could fill holes if necessary. I would also keep my eye on a couple of Argo receivers if the Bombers lose Lawler, Brescacin, Josh Huff and DaVaris Daniels are all F.A.'s.

Speller might replace Couture if needed, but you would need to check VAX status on him first.  I think I would pass on Drake Nevis at 32 years old and hasn't played in two years.  I'd rather roll with Sayles.

Daniels could be an option, a and while I don't get excited a about Huff, he is productive.  Brescanin is a bandaid, I think he would be too much of a risk.
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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2022, 09:04:39 PM »

Speller might replace Couture if needed, but you would need to check VAX status on him first.  I think I would pass on Drake Nevis at 32 years old and hasn't played in two years.  I'd rather roll with Sayles.

I didn't realize Nevis hardly played last year, was he injured?
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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2022, 09:43:19 PM »

I didn't realize Nevis hardly played last year, was he injured?

He only played one game for them last year.  He was injured in camp, came off the IR in Week 10, and then went back to IR for the rest of the year.

My sense is that the first injury was legit, but the Argos had some good interior DL (Oakman), so it?s possible he was only kept around as insurance.  Or, maybe he was unlucky, and got reinjured.  I loved Nevis when he was here though, I hope he bounces back.  But I don?t know if I would be the one to take a chance on him though.
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2022, 10:11:14 PM »

Dline has been a position we have been pretty good at scouting, so if (and I hope we don't) lose Stove, I don't know how necessary Nevis would be
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2022, 11:07:38 PM »

Players who sign in T.O. typically go there for higher compensation and will be looking to be well paid even if they move on.  The Bombers probably wouldn't save anything bringing Nevis back, I love Drake but it's smarter to invest in younger DT's. 
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2022, 11:53:48 PM »

We are going to lose players.  The reason will mainly be money.  You can't sign veteran players to fix that issue, you have to spend on the vets you want to keep, and recruit new players to replace the ones you can't afford to keep. 


The idea is not rocket science, but pulling it off definitely is...
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« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2022, 01:09:51 PM »

Looks like Desjarlais had a workout with the Seahawks yesterday, so it'll be interesting to see how that goes for him.
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« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2022, 01:38:20 PM »

I am unclear on why so many people are discounting the work Casey Sayles put in this season. His stat line reads pretty good. I would love Stove back but if he chases higher dollars I am OK with Sayles.
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« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2022, 01:57:47 PM »

I am unclear on why so many people are discounting the work Casey Sayles put in this season. His stat line reads pretty good. I would love Stove back but if he chases higher dollars I am OK with Sayles.

Are they? Sayles played very well. He's 5" taller and about 15 lbs lighter. There is a reason they call Richardson " Stove ". He's more of a DT teams need to double team and run away from. I wouldn't think Sayles would be a direct replacement for Richardson per se but he adds value to the defence.

We didn't get to see E. Rose play for more than a few plays before getting injured. However he's a bigger guy which might make a difference.
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« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2022, 02:06:26 PM »

I am unclear on why so many people are discounting the work Casey Sayles put in this season. His stat line reads pretty good. I would love Stove back but if he chases higher dollars I am OK with Sayles.

I mean, it is what it is if any player chases a pay day.

We're coming off two Grey Cups so ovbiousy we want to keep as many people as possible.

On the other hand, championship teams sink all the time becasuse they stay the same while other teams improve. So, in an ideal world, some of these "loses" become gains by another player coming in and showing unexpected growth.
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« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2022, 03:02:18 PM »

I noticed some comments on the weekend during NFL games that many DT's were really big in the 350 -370 lb range. It could factor in since he's not the biggest OG but he could always continue to gain weight and strength?

This comment made me curious, so I went to look at rosters for 10 NFL teams at random.  I would say 90% of the DTs were in the 300-320 range.  I found 4 who were 330-335.  So while there might be an exception or two, almost all DTs are going to be of a comparable weight to a CFL nose tackle.

Not to over generalize, but I think most CFL teams run a nose tackle at 300+, and a second DT at 280-290.  So the average NFL line is going to be a little heavier, but Desjarlais will have had plenty of experience handling players of that size.
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« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2022, 03:25:55 PM »

If we can shave even $5-10k off of every deal resigning players due to our "culture", coaches, team mates and potential playoff payouts. that is huge.  I don't doubt that will be the case, and opposing GM's are going to know they have to overbid to sway our players.  There will be some we lose, but I am confident that we will sign most, and will have pipeline ready for the rest. 

The Canadian Mafia inspires confidence.  It would take a major meltdown to not have a phenomenal contender to start the year.
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« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2022, 03:56:57 PM »

If we can shave even $5-10k off of every deal resigning players due to our "culture", coaches, team mates and potential playoff payouts. that is huge.  I don't doubt that will be the case, and opposing GM's are going to know they have to overbid to sway our players.  There will be some we lose, but I am confident that we will sign most, and will have pipeline ready for the rest. 

The Canadian Mafia inspires confidence.  It would take a major meltdown to not have a phenomenal contender to start the year.

If all our remaining FAs hit the market and we sign them all to 5-10k each under what they would get on the open market we will be far over the SMS. We can't let our big fish get to FA, if we do they will command dollars that we cannot keep up with because of the depth of our talent. Ottawa can sign a Biggie to a stupid number, we can't. Ottawa can sign Lawler to a redonkulous contract without losing anything they already have. We can't. The fact of the matter is that CFL rosters predicate on some guys being on the high end and some guys being on the low end of the salary scale. When half your team is all stars it becomes a very tough situation to navigate unless some guys are willing to take big discounts and those guys are few and far between. We will lose some good players. It is inevitable. I am sure that KW already has a pretty good idea who those guys will be.
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« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2022, 05:31:05 PM »

If all our remaining FAs hit the market and we sign them all to 5-10k each under what they would get on the open market we will be far over the SMS. We can't let our big fish get to FA, if we do they will command dollars that we cannot keep up with because of the depth of our talent. Ottawa can sign a Biggie to a stupid number, we can't. Ottawa can sign Lawler to a redonkulous contract without losing anything they already have. We can't. The fact of the matter is that CFL rosters predicate on some guys being on the high end and some guys being on the low end of the salary scale. When half your team is all stars it becomes a very tough situation to navigate unless some guys are willing to take big discounts and those guys are few and far between. We will lose some good players. It is inevitable. I am sure that KW already has a pretty good idea who those guys will be.

My point being, if the culture lets you shave a bit here and there, you scrape that all together and you can sign Biggie, Lawler or Collaros to a larger contract than you'd like, and stop an Ottawa from poaching them.   

Its all going to come down to timing, and the one week pre FA negotiation window is going to set up a lot of scenarios that will play out quickly... I'm betting there will be a number of "We have enough to sign you at this rate, or 3 other players at rates we have offered, and have 6 offers out there.  The first 3 that accept will get the deal, after that, our offer will be reduced.   

The negotiation window should do away with the 5 minutes into FA and we resign a guy who just wanted to see if he'd get an offer...

I guess we will either have most of the team locked up and it be quiet like last year, or we see a frenzy with the new GM's trying to make their mark raiding our roster

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« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2022, 07:00:05 PM »

My point being, if the culture lets you shave a bit here and there, you scrape that all together and you can sign Biggie, Lawler or Collaros to a larger contract than you'd like, and stop an Ottawa from poaching them.   

Its all going to come down to timing, and the one week pre FA negotiation window is going to set up a lot of scenarios that will play out quickly... I'm betting there will be a number of "We have enough to sign you at this rate, or 3 other players at rates we have offered, and have 6 offers out there.  The first 3 that accept will get the deal, after that, our offer will be reduced.  

The negotiation window should do away with the 5 minutes into FA and we resign a guy who just wanted to see if he'd get an offer...

I guess we will either have most of the team locked up and it be quiet like last year, or we see a frenzy with the new GM's trying to make their mark raiding our roster



Some players we don't want to lose, we are going to lose. That's the reality of having half the league's all star team on our roster. It's just not feasible to sign them all. The guys who hit FA will get redonkulous offers by someone. I mean look at how ridiculous the Whitehead and AC Leonard contracts are already. You got teams that have to be desperate and are going to blow their brains out in FA and some of our guys will wait in that soup line.
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« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2022, 07:04:14 PM »

This comment made me curious, so I went to look at rosters for 10 NFL teams at random.  I would say 90% of the DTs were in the 300-320 range.  I found 4 who were 330-335.  So while there might be an exception or two, almost all DTs are going to be of a comparable weight to a CFL nose tackle.

Not to over generalize, but I think most CFL teams run a nose tackle at 300+, and a second DT at 280-290.  So the average NFL line is going to be a little heavier, but Desjarlais will have had plenty of experience handling players of that size.

If anything I think they lose Stove to another CFL team where his reputation is well known and not the NFL, if he's going to move on, hopefully it's to an Eastern team.
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« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2022, 07:20:35 PM »

I am unclear on why so many people are discounting the work Casey Sayles put in this season. His stat line reads pretty good. I would love Stove back but if he chases higher dollars I am OK with Sayles.

I think you answered your own question. Sayles is pretty good.

I think he's proven that he's a great member of this defense but I think that only applies in a rotational setting. In other words, if we lose Stove I don't think we can in any way say we can "replace" him with Sayles. We would need to find another DT of *at least* Sayles' calibre just to keep pace while rotating.
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« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2022, 09:17:15 PM »

Some players we don't want to lose, we are going to lose. That's the reality of having half the league's all star team on our roster. It's just not feasible to sign them all. The guys who hit FA will get redonkulous offers by someone. I mean look at how ridiculous the Whitehead and AC Leonard contracts are already. You got teams that have to be desperate and are going to blow their brains out in FA and some of our guys will wait in that soup line.

The AC Leonard and Whitehead contracts included a big chunk of fan appeal... the extra cash was to sell seats.  You don't get as much of a return on that poaching a opponent's players... maybe on a Bighill, but can't see him moving. 

I think things will settle down and get reasonable quick enough...
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« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2022, 10:34:08 PM »

The AC Leonard and Whitehead contracts included a big chunk of fan appeal... the extra cash was to sell seats.  You don't get as much of a return on that poaching a opponent's players... maybe on a Bighill, but can't see him moving. 

I think things will settle down and get reasonable quick enough...

It would be nice if the league and the CFLPA had their salary cap set before GM's start throwing big money around, but as is usually the case with the CFL chaos comes first, rules and boundaries come second.
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« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2022, 05:48:03 PM »

It would be nice if the league and the CFLPA had their salary cap set before GM's start throwing big money around, but as is usually the case with the CFL chaos comes first, rules and boundaries come second.


.......AND with guys like Suitor suggesting 'throw caution to the wind'....fa could get really wild...I hope there's still some sanity left amongst the gm's
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