Blue Bombers roster - 2021-2022

[M.O.A.B.]

The Bombers can't run a TC without at least 4 QB's, right now they only have 2, so Walters isn't done yet, some patience will be required to see how this all plays out. 

I'm surprised Matt Nichols situation hasn't been updated with any news, if he hasn't recovered from his injuries by now retirement is his only option.  Seeing as LaPo has not resigned him, I think that must be the case.  Nicholls is a driven guy, I find it hard to believe he's living in limbo without the possibility of a paycheque.

I think it was reported by Naylor during first week of FA that Matt will hope to land a (last) gig in the CFL, if not he's ready to move on.

[M.O.A.B.]

I guess that the main point is that we need to develop the next Collaros, or Mitchell, or Ray... and you don't do that by loading up on used backup QB's that are never going to "turn the corner".

You recruit and develop "then next guy".  Hopefully you get into the situation where you have and Evans and a Massoli, or a Mitchell and Mayer... WE have no idea at this moment if Dru Brown will learn the CFL game and be the next one.  We have no idea if there is a guy on our neg list that can do that. 

We can be assured that there will be 4 or 5 arms in TC, one probably being the Bison's QB.  There is absolutely no rush right now, as a lot of the potential recruits will be looking at other options before deciding on an entry level job in a foreign country. 

Ultimate goal is to win the cup. It doesnt matter if you won with a QB you developed, you picked up as an FA or traded for.

4 of the last 5 grey Cup champions was led by a QB that they did not developed - Collaros (WPG), Ray (TOR), Burris (OTT), Reilly (EDM). Only BLM (CGY) was developed by his own club.

[theaardvark]

Ultimate goal is to win the cup. It doesnt matter if you won with a QB you developed, you picked up as an FA or traded for.

4 of the last 5 grey Cup champions was led by a QB that they did not developed - Collaros (WPG), Ray (TOR), Burris (OTT), Reilly (EDM). Only BLM (CGY) was developed by his own club.

Yes, you are correct, but the least expensive way to have a second good QB on the roster is to develop one... its why the Evans/Masoli  and Mitchell/Maier situations happened... you don't sigh a starting quality QB in FA to be a backup... 

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Yes, you are correct, but the least expensive way to have a second good QB on the roster is to develop one... its why the Evans/Masoli  and Mitchell/Maier situations happened... you don't sigh a starting quality QB in FA to be a backup... 

You do if you can find one at the right price, the Bombers signed Kevin Glenn in 2016 to back up Nichols, they barely used him because Nichols stayed healthy the entire year.  Developing a QB is great in theory, but it hasn't worked well for the Bombers, ie. Dom Davis 3 years as backup.  McGuire showed little improvement in his two years with the team and the book is still out on Dru Brown.  You might say Strev. was an exception, but realistically he came with the tools he was going to use, and they just gave him the unexpected opportunity to start games before he was ready.  Again we disagree on the definition of "development".

[theaardvark]

You do if you can find one at the right price, the Bombers signed Kevin Glenn in 2016 to back up Nichols, they barely used him because Nichols stayed healthy the entire year.  Developing a QB is great in theory, but it hasn't worked well for the Bombers, ie. Dom Davis 3 years as backup.  McGuire showed little improvement in his two years with the team and the book is still out on Dru Brown.  You might say Strev. was an exception, but realistically he came with the tools he was going to use, and they just gave him the unexpected opportunity to start games before he was ready.  Again we disagree on the definition of "development".

If you can find one at the right price, you always sign a vet over an unproven player, of course.  But paying Collaros $550k means that price is basically an ELC plus game play bonuses.  Not sure how many quality vet QB's who can still play will accept that contract.  Especially here.  Our oline is great for a starting QB, but not so much for a backup looking to get game play bonuses.  If there was a Drew Tate 2.0 out there, who'd rather ride the pines than play, maybe.  But when you have the most expensive QB in the league, and 9 league all stars you have to pay, not a lot of budget for QB2.

[M.O.A.B.]

You do if you can find one at the right price, the Bombers signed Kevin Glenn in 2016 to back up Nichols, they barely used him because Nichols stayed healthy the entire year.  Developing a QB is great in theory, but it hasn't worked well for the Bombers, ie. Dom Davis 3 years as backup.  McGuire showed little improvement in his two years with the team and the book is still out on Dru Brown.  You might say Strev. was an exception, but realistically he came with the tools he was going to use, and they just gave him the unexpected opportunity to start games before he was ready.  Again we disagree on the definition of "development".

You used the wrong QB for your example. He hates Kevin Glenn. 

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

You used the wrong QB for your example. He hates Kevin Glenn. 

Whut???  Everybody loves Kevin Glenn, 8 CFL teams can't be wrong!

[gobombersgo]

BLUE BOMBERS EXTEND CONTRACT OF CFL ALL-STAR DEFENSIVE BACK DEATRICK NICHOLS THROUGH 2023

WINNIPEG, MB., February 14, 2022 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has agreed to terms on a one-year contract extension with all-star defensive back Deatrick Nichols through 2023. Nichols was already under contract for the 2022 season.

Nichols (5-9, 188; University of South Florida; born: June 8, 1994 in Miami, FL) returns to the Blue Bombers for a second season in 2022 after starting the first 12 games in 2021 before missing the final two weeks of the regular season. He then started both the Western Final and the 108th Grey Cup win in Hamilton.

Nichols finished his first year with 43 defensive tackles and three more on special teams, adding three interceptions, a quarterback sack, a fumble recovery and was among the CFL leaders with seven pass knockdowns. Nichols added four tackles in the Grey Cup and was part of the walk-off interception in overtime that sealed the championship. The defensive back was also named a West Division and CFL All-Star in his rookie campaign.

After starting his final three seasons in college for USF, Nichols first signed with the Arizona Cardinals in 2018 as an undrafted free agent, dressing for two regular season games that season. Following his release from the Cards he signed with the Houston Roughnecks of the XFL and was leading the league with three interceptions before it ceased operations due to the pandemic.

He was with the Miami Dolphins later that season before first signing with the Blue Bombers on February 5, 2021.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2022/02/14/blue-bombers-extend-contract-cfl-star-defensive-back-deatrick-nichols-2023/

[M.O.A.B.]

Whut???  Everybody loves Kevin Glenn, 8 CFL teams can't be wrong!

Everybody loves Kevin Glenn, except theaardvark 

[theaardvark]

Everybody loves Kevin Glenn, except theaardvark 

To clarify:

I don't "hate" KG5

I just:

Don't think he is that great a QB.  1 Div allstar nod, 1 passing leader year (dame year, 2007 here) in 17 seasons

IMHO, not HOF, but if they create a Hall of Longevity, he's in

Find it amazing that people laud his being on every CFK team, while overlooking that every CFL team has cut/traded/moved on from him. 



So, I do not hate KG5, I hate the fact he gets so much love for being a m'eh at best QB... 

[GCn19]

To clarify:

I don't "hate" KG5

I just:

Don't think he is that great a QB.  1 Div allstar nod, 1 passing leader year (dame year, 2007 here) in 17 seasons

IMHO, not HOF, but if they create a Hall of Longevity, he's in

Find it amazing that people laud his being on every CFK team, while overlooking that every CFL team has cut/traded/moved on from him. 



So, I do not hate KG5, I hate the fact he gets so much love for being a m'eh at best QB... 

Not sure why you try to devalue longevity? Ask any football player how much skill and dedication it takes to have a long career as a QB and you will get the same answer every time....a lot. I don't know if he is HOF worthy but he certainly was no scrub. The guy had several years where he was amongst the top of the league at QB. If he would have won one GC he would be a shoe in for the HOF. However, because he didn't, I too, am on the fence about his worthiness but make no mistake Glenn was a baller...it's not his fault his best years were before you knew a football was pointy.

[theaardvark]

Not sure why you try to devalue longevity? Ask any football player how much skill and dedication it takes to have a long career as a QB and you will get the same answer every time....a lot. I don't know if he is HOF worthy but he certainly was no scrub. The guy had several years where he was amongst the top of the league at QB. If he would have won one GC he would be a shoe in for the HOF. However, because he didn't, I too, am on the fence about his worthiness but make no mistake Glenn was a baller...it's not his fault his best years were before you knew a football was pointy.

Again, no hate for a dude who worked his butt off to stay relevant in a league for 17 seasons.  Yes, it takes hard work and dedication.  He is an example for every lunch bucket guy out there, for sure.  Give him the "CFL Lifetime Rudy award"...

I just don't understand the desire to elevate him to "elite" level, HOF QB status.  No team ever brought in KG5 and went on to win a cup.  Whether it was his selection of which team to play for, or just the options that were open to him, he never was that guy that finished the job, that took a team over the top.  Came close in 2007, but fate snatched it away from him.

Maybe he's the CFL's Charlie Brown... with Lucy pulling the ball away just as he's about to kick it... again, no hate, just no understanding why he gets so many accolades just for being there...

[theaardvark]

Well, there ya go... thank you Chris Jones

John Hodge@JohnDHodge 
According to sources, the Winnipeg Blue Bombers have agreed to terms with quarterback Dakota Prukop.

https://3downnation.com/2022/02/15/winnipeg-blue-bombers-agree-to-terms-with-veteran-cfl-quarterback-dakota-prukop/

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Well, there ya go... thank you Chris Jones

John Hodge@JohnDHodge 
According to sources, the Winnipeg Blue Bombers have agreed to terms with quarterback Dakota Prukop.

https://3downnation.com/2022/02/15/winnipeg-blue-bombers-agree-to-terms-with-veteran-cfl-quarterback-dakota-prukop/

Prukop is equal or better than McGuire as a 3rd down specialist, but can't see him handling an entire game well.

[ModAdmin]

Official announcement is in the link below...

https://forums.bluebombers.com/index.php?topic=53905.0

BLUE BOMBERS AGREE TO TERMS WITH QUARTERBACK DAKOTA PRUKOP

WINNIPEG, MB., February 15, 2022 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has signed American quarterback Dakota Prukop to a one-year contract.

Prukop (6-1, 208, University of Oregon; born: October 17, 1993 in Austin, TX) joins the Blue Bombers in 2022 for what will be his fifth season in the Canadian Football League after spending time with the Toronto Argonauts (2017-19) and the Calgary Stampeders (2020-21) before joining the Edmonton Elks last year.

He has dressed for 49 career regular season games, completing 36 of 56 passes for 467 yards with four touchdowns and four interceptions while rushing 38 times for 173 yards and two touchdowns.

In eight games last season with the Elks, Prukop completed 18 of 26 passes for 183 yards with one TD and two interceptions while rushing 27 times for 134 yards and two scores.

Prukop began his collegiate career at Montana State, transferring to Oregon after graduating in 2016 to pursue his Masters in non-profit management.

He was signed by the Argos in 2017, spending three years in Toronto before signing with Calgary in 2020 before the cancellation of the 2020 season. Prukop was released by the Stampeders at the conclusion of training camp last year before joining the Elks.