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Author Topic: We better pray Collaros doesn't get injured  (Read 4069 times)
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« on: October 24, 2021, 02:44:59 PM »

I hope Zach doesn't get injured, or we have a 2007 situation all over again.  Maybe Walters should sign a more experienced back up, instead of other positions.  Nothing against  our backup,  he needs reps this would spoil a great season, if something happens, to the quarterback position.
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2021, 02:46:59 PM »

Maybe Walters should find a better experienced back up instead of other positions?
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2021, 02:50:07 PM »

No now is the time to see what McGuire has. Has has been here for years and has a deep roster to work with. Time to see if he can throw accurately.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2021, 03:00:59 PM »

I hope Zach doesn't get injured, or we have a 2007 situation all over again.  Maybe Walters should sign a more experienced back up, instead of other positions.  Nothing against  our backup,  he needs reps this would spoil a great season, if something happens, to the quarterback position.

Who out there would be even close to McGuire in knowing our systems and being capable?  Matt Nichols? Dom Davis? List ends about there, and do we want Matty or Dom as our option?    

With First wrapped up, I can see Collaros getting a quarter or even a half each game going forward, and McGuire getting the rest.  Collaros need to "keep his hand in" so that he doesn't get rusty or lose his timing...  but you need to protect him, and get McGuire live reps.  Same in practice... split reps 50/50, reduce unnecessary wear and tear on Collaros...

I really, really, really hope that the Bomber brain trust figures this out...
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2021, 03:03:41 PM »

Injuries can derail any team and the Bombers are no different. Collaros, Demski in particular are critical on Offence. On defence I guess Bighill would be the biggest loss. That said we could name a dozen other players we can't replace on either side of the ball.

That's the key going into the playoffs, staying healthy.

We should be giving some back ups more playing time. There are a multitude of reasons for doing that not to mention many of our starters have been nursing nagging injuries for many games.

McGuire could be the next good young QB. His advantage is knowing the system and being surrounded by excellent talent. Add in a defence that doesn't put them in a bad spot needing to come from behind and he has a chance to make mistakes but still be successful.

I've never seen him practice so it's all speculation how he'd do given an opportunity. I don't want to find out going into the Grey Cup if Collaros is injured in the WDF for example. Get him some more reps in the next 3 games.

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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2021, 03:17:34 PM »

As much as I hate saying this, if he?s off the IR, pick up Nichols as insurance.  This defence could win the big game under a dink and dunk Nichols offence.  Can?t say the same for McGuire, simply because he doesn?t have the reps to base it off.
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2021, 03:23:16 PM »

As much as I hate saying this, if he?s off the IR, pick up Nichols as insurance.  This defence could win the big game under a dink and dunk Nichols offence.  Can?t say the same for McGuire, simply because he doesn?t have the reps to base it off.

No. Even if he comes off the IR he'd still be under contract so he's not available. Nichols prior to injury in 2019 might be valuable. It doesn't appear he has what he had before that injury to his throwing shoulder.

Harris might have been a better choice with a trade with the Elks and I don't believe we entertained that. He doesn't seem to " fit " our locker room.  So we're going to have to go with those on the roster at this point in the season.

Trade deadline is this week?
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2021, 04:10:15 PM »

Injuries can happen to anyone in any game, but Collaros plays a smart game and our O line protected him well. I think he plays the first 3 quarters in the remaining games and macquire gets the 4th quarter reps. The focus will be on getting everyone back to full strength?Harris,Demski and Hardrick and work on executing and don?t take any crazy risks.
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2021, 04:13:13 PM »

As much as I hate saying this, if he?s off the IR, pick up Nichols as insurance.  This defence could win the big game under a dink and dunk Nichols offence.  Can?t say the same for McGuire, simply because he doesn?t have the reps to base it off.
I would bring back Nichols in a minute. The Bombers with this defense could win a cup with Nichols in charge. Nichols knows the offense and is good at protecting the ball.
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2021, 04:21:56 PM »

Until there is an injury,I don?t see Walters bringing in anyone. We ll get Collaros his reps to keep him crisp and the offense firing on all cylinders, then Mcquire gets game reps in the 4th quarterof the remaining games.
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2021, 04:25:18 PM »

Until there is an injury,I don?t see Walters bringing in anyone. We ll get Collaros his reps to keep him crisp and the offense firing on all cylinders, then Mcquire gets game reps in the 4th quarterof the remaining games.

Problem with that is after the 27th, he can?t trade for anyone. 
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2021, 04:30:50 PM »

I would bring back Nichols in a minute. The Bombers with this defense could win a cup with Nichols in charge. Nichols knows the offense and is good at protecting the ball.

Nichols pre injury 2019 yes, post injury no. I don't think he'll come off the 6 game IR this season. Ottawa will be saving SMS and checking out rookie QB's for 2022.
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2021, 05:48:45 PM »

On a positive note, our defence has the ability to keep up in tight games even when our offence has struggled at times. Whether that was due to games where Demski, Adams, Harris or Lawler were no in the game or the opponents defence was playing well.

So if it becomes necessary for McGuire to play some portion of some games, he doesn't have to be as good as Collaros. A modified game plan and our talent will still make big plays. All he has to do is limit mistakes and take what is there.

All of that is true whether he's the next great QB. The team has the ability to overcome mistakes made.

To that end I have no doubt we can win with McGuire if we need to.
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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2021, 06:18:05 PM »

Nichols pre injury 2019 yes, post injury no. I don't think he'll come off the 6 game IR this season. Ottawa will be saving SMS and checking out rookie QB's for 2022.


I completely agree. Did anyone see Nichols play this season? He was terrible although not all his fault with a VERY BAD Ottawa team around him. Still he was a pale imitation of his former self. His career might be even over. Dominque Davis? Pass. Those two guys are pure stop gaps if you have nobody else available.

A guy like McGuire who has been in Buck's system for a year and on this team for at least 2-3 years I have more faith in. He beat out all the other wannabe backups in training camp too. He lofted a good bomb one game. Give him more passing reps in these final 3 games so we can judge what skills he really has. That will determine if we TRULY need a better backup QB for next year. He is also money on those goal line plunges and short yardage situations as he is a big strong guy.

I think Collaros will play at least a half and into the 3rd quarter for these next 3 games. Maybe even longer in that last game vs Calgary. I think it will all depend on the score and momentum of the game. Think these guys want to win out even if first place is wrapped. Collaros may even go out for a while over the game, but if they are in a close game he maybe comes back in. All depends on how much they value the win vs being safe.

Certainly anyone who can risk further injury don't even dress or take the out of the game if it occurs during the game. Don't want to upset chemistry too much going into the playoffs though.
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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2021, 07:36:20 PM »

Roll the dice and hope for the best and give McGuire plenty of reps
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