Started by Blue In BC, September 28, 2021, 06:20:27 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on April 13, 2022, 06:17:55 PMfubotv? never heard of it... supposed to be a free trial, carrying all the games. So, every game is a Birmingham home game, even if they don't play... so obviously not a gate oriented league...
Quote from: famicommander on April 18, 2022, 01:23:36 AMNobody showed up to game 3 either, and game 4 was canceled due to weather.Definitely nothing to worry about for CFL fans from this clown shoes operation.
Quote from: Jesse on April 18, 2022, 03:51:36 PMI still don't understand how this keeps being tried.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 18, 2022, 04:19:06 PMThere is the NFL, NCAA and there are regional semi-pro leagues... finding a sweet spot post NCAA and under NFL but more than Semipro is that brass ring people / networks are willing to invest in to try and capture lighting in a bottle, and on a small investment, reap huge rewards. Problem is, no gate, no name recognition, gambling that might actually be worse than roulette, and a quality of talent/play/coaching (not because the coaches are bad, but rather they have no time to coach up players into their systems), this just does not have the capacity to get to a sustainable level of watchable product. FOX will hemorrhage money into this league for a while, but how long until the writing is on the wall? FOX has the ideal viewership for this product (although there should have been more teams based south of the Mason / Dixon) but even FOX knows when to pull the plug. I can't see them getting to the playoffs even... Getting a crowd in the stands would make a huge difference, if they found a way to promote that and get at least one side of the stadium papered up with fans to get some excitement that might get infectious to the viewers, they might have a chance... give away TShirts or Shiseys of the teams playing in each game with each ticket, sell family packs that include food, shirts and foam fingers and such, it might not be a gate driven league, but fans in the stands are part of the production value. If you aren't putting fans in the stands, eliminate them completely. Focus on the on-field, and eliminate the eyesore of a 90% empty stadium.
Quote from: Blue In BC on April 18, 2022, 06:51:41 PMI think players are essentially in a type of bubble. Everybody is housed in hotels around the city and use multiple fields to practice. I suppose they might use high school / college fields for example. Since nobody has to fly to games, the non football costs are reduced quite a bit. No time zones to deal with either.Bad weather on a given weekend can really mess up game scheduling though.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 18, 2022, 09:13:49 PMA bubble, eh? Never even occured to me that we haven't heard boo about COVID testing or protocols for the USFL. Biden is providing free RAT's to anyone who asks, betting that's the extent of their COVID protocols...
Quote from: Blue In BC on April 19, 2022, 01:19:33 PMNot a covid bubble. It's just a bubble because every team is based in Birmingham. Nobody has to fly back to anywhere on a weekly basis. I see this morning one player was released due to breaking some team rules but don't know if that was covid related or not.Roster costs, coaches costs and living expenses ( food and hotel ) are going to add up quickly. It's possible players have to pay their own living costs. I'd be curious to see the projections of team costs against revenues ( we won't see it ).
Quote from: Blue In BC on April 19, 2022, 03:57:32 PMI know the league is owned by one entity. Team / player costs $75 / night add up whether players share a room or not. That's about $5000 per player for the 10 weeks more or less. It will add about $2M to running the league above roster and coaching costs. Air fare bringing players to Birmingham and then leaving at the end of the season etc.Team costs are the off field costs I was referring too.Overall the total cost could be in the $5M - $6M per team X 8 = $40M = $48M operating costs for the league. The question still remains how much of a loss is the " entity " willing to take in the 1st season?
Quote from: Blue In BC on April 19, 2022, 05:07:17 PMI was being generous with my low estimate of costs. Everything from equipment, laundry and stadium costs all factor into operational costs. Didn't know the housing costs come out of the salary costs but there are variables like the $1K per player for winning a game. Additional costs moving to Ohio for playoff games.Anyway. I'll take another look at games broadcast over the next couple of weeks. One to check quality of the games and 2nd to see what happens with attendance. None of the games were blow outs which was a bonus.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 18, 2022, 03:45:24 PMThe drones are annoying, and the helmet cams even worse. Both need some heavy duty image stabilization to make them even watchable.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on April 22, 2022, 02:44:11 AMOk games. To me it's basically the same as AAF-level play. OK, with a few remarkable players making some good plays. I liked the AAF team names and uniforms more!Ya, drones were awful. The whining motors on every shot (even when it's not a drone shot the noise is picked up) gets old really fast. Find a tech way to cancel out that noise!! I didn't find the drone shots added much. When they are in fast motion I started getting ill. Too jerky. It's like someone playing Doom on crack.But I did like the helmet cams. They only used them 2-3 times a game for a replay. But this is mostly because I've never played the game in a helmet. It's like that early scene in the Ladykillers movie. See what it's really like, 1st person! Used a couple of times a game, this is a neat addition. Imagine having the helmet cam from AH on his '19 GC 20+ yard romp!I get a bazillion of the Shaw packages on the newest tech and I can't even get all the weekly games. WEAK. I gotta subscribe to some stupid new streaming thing to see the rest? Ya, good luck with that.And some want to change CFL to the same lame boring 4 down model.... we'd look as bad as these USFL amateurs.
Quote from: Blue In BC on April 24, 2022, 01:10:58 PMA few good players / players in the game by half time. Also some really inept plays, missed tackles. A couple of the cheer leaders are cute. Why do they have cheerleaders but no fans in the stands?
Quote from: theaardvark on April 24, 2022, 04:41:41 AMNo drone buzz...
Quote from: TecnoGenius on April 26, 2022, 07:06:19 AMDoes anyone know if 66's man LDW is in USFL??
Quote from: TecnoGenius on April 26, 2022, 05:28:52 AMQuarterbacking seems to be the weakest link in USFL league so far. Maybe the CFL cohort isn't so bad after all.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 01, 2022, 03:31:31 AMSo, nothing on network TV this week? Weird...
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 01, 2022, 01:46:26 PMThere were 2 games on Fox yesterday. I watched parts of both. No fans for the 1st game but there was a crowd of a few thousand for the Birmingham game. Couldn't tell how large it was but the most I've seen since game 1.Didn't find either game all that interesting. Aside from the quality level of play, I don't have any association with players, team cities involved etc. Part of the fan aspect requires a crowd involvement supporting their team.I wasn't watching much but I think even that will decrease for me. Time to focus on our draft and up and coming TC.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 01, 2022, 07:44:05 PMWeird, I guess when I set my PVR for USFL, it didn't pick up the FOX channel, just NBC... so I didn't see either broadcast game this week. Have to wonder if Fubo or Peacock are getting any traffic..As to association based on city... other than Birmingham, there are no team/city alliances. And not many recognizable names at all... or any that have stood out enough to encourage following them...Is limiting broadcast games a good way to build followers?
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 01, 2022, 08:09:32 PMI'm wondering the same thing abut limiting broadcast games. Two games of four per week are only on the Fubo or other pay type networks.I don't understand why they did this and what the plans for 2023 might look like. Seems like a horrible business model IMO.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 01, 2022, 08:11:53 PMI guess they are trying to cover all the bases, might be trying to prove the league can drive business to the pay networks, and if that fails, next year be 100% FOX content...
Quote from: theaardvark on May 02, 2022, 08:33:43 PMSo, for those looking for Dobson in a USFL jersey...Dave Naylor@TSNDaveNaylorOL Liam Dobson, No. 3 overall pick of last year?s @CFL Draft, will attend mini-camps with the @ChicagoBears and @Saints. Had signed a @USFL contract this spring but denied P1 work visa because league does not have $10 million in revenue, according to agent Marty Magid. #bombersSo, the USFL is so lame that you can't get a work visa to play for them... #sad
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 02, 2022, 08:54:54 PMWell that's interesting. Not good for Dobson. Bears drafted three OL and the Saints at least 2. Even making it to an NFL TC might not happen. So he could be in Winnipeg in 2022. Those camps run May 6 - 16th.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 02, 2022, 09:02:42 PMBut with his passport.. oh wait... no ratio in the NFL... The question then moves to, is it better to bounce around looking to get a PR spot in the NFL, or come to Canada and play. Can he land a spot on the Bombers and get on the field? He could easily take Eli's spot, but can he get Dejarlais'? Because if he wants to get a kick at teh NFL, the best bet might be to take the route Dejarlais did...
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 02, 2022, 09:36:33 PMDesjarlais signed a futures contract and will be at an NFL TC. Dobson is just a mini camp invite. The Saints just signed 17 UDFA players.I think Dobson doesn't make it to an NFL TC.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 02, 2022, 10:38:08 PMExactly, but not making a TC doesn't mean you can't work your way onto a PR somewhere along the line... teams are always trying out hoggies... so there is a chance he could find a PR spot eventually. But coming north gets him a PR spot for sure, possibly an AR spot and he could earn the chance to play.