Covid 19

[TBURGESS]

That was put in due to the thefts and assault that were happening. Not the same thing.

This will be my only response to my previous post, I am not trying to stir the pot, I just gave my response and reason.

Thanks

No, it's to stop under age people from buying booze. Kinda like a vaccine card is to stop unvaccinated people from being in large groups with vaccinated folks.

[theaardvark]

99.5% of all deaths from COVID now involve unvaccinated patients.

99.5%.

But that stat does not get through to these people.

Instead, they want to play up the fact that 99% of people who contract COVID do not die.

Ginning up the fact that it is a survivable disease, and you most likely will not die from it while dismissing the vaccine reduces your chances of getting it / dying from it a hundredfold, well, using logic on this anti-covid-vaccine, anti-mask, anti-Fauci herd is a waste of time. 

Saw a neat Lincoln Project ad recently that showed FOX commentators blasting the vaccines while flashing text and arrows were pointing out that they had been vaccinated, and that FOX NEWS requires all its anchors to be vaccinated (not sure if that extends to all staff or not, but would not be surprised).

I hate the idea, but they could grant FDA full approval for use (not "just emergency use approval") re-named the vaccine "The Trump Protector", give him accolades for Warp Speed, point out he is double vaccinated, and you would get your 75% in a few weeks.  Get the GOP behind vaccination efforts, and watch the arms fill up.

And then after everyone has got the vaccine, we can go back to laughing at Trump... but for now, sad to say, the USA, maybe even the world, needs him on board with this.

And the only way to achieve that is to cater to his vanity.

[Pigskin]

44 new cases in Manitoba today, with 16 of those in Winnipeg. Winnipeg's TPR is now 2.9%, and we had one death a male in his 30's.

[jeremy q public]

Not I, sorry but I take issue with any place in Canada asking to see "papers". This is my thought only and everyone else is entitled to theirs.
Please be respectful.

I just showed my drivers license at a business yesterday. You show papers every time you fly, stay in a hotel, apply for a credit card, etc. etc.

So I'm curious why this particular use of "papers" offends you so much?

[theaardvark]

So, looks like one person won't be attending out front...

https://globalnews.ca/news/8051277/winnipeg-covid-anti-vaccine-protest-bomber-game/

A Winnipeg man has been arrested after police said he tried to get people to protest near the upcoming Blue Bomber home opener.

Winnipeg police said the man made social media posts encouraging people who are against masks and the COVID-19 vaccines to gather on the roads near Investors Group Field on Aug. 5 with the intent to block traffic.

While organizing a public protest is not illegal, the man was under a court order that ?prohibits the promotion and organization of gatherings contrary to any order made under the Public Health Act.?

Patrick Joseph Robert Allard, 39, faces charges for failing to comply with a condition of release.

In a post made to his public Facebook page, Allard said ?There?s only two roads into the Winnipeg Blue Bombers stadium. I think we can block both with a rather small amount of people on August 5th ahead of their game.?

He then responds to several people who ask about plans.

Allard was arrested on May 28 for helping to organize a rally fronted by notorious anti-mask rally organizer Chris ?Sky? Saccoccia, who hails from Ontario.

[Sammy225]

So, looks like one person won't be attending out front...

https://globalnews.ca/news/8051277/winnipeg-covid-anti-vaccine-protest-bomber-game/

A Winnipeg man has been arrested after police said he tried to get people to protest near the upcoming Blue Bomber home opener.

Winnipeg police said the man made social media posts encouraging people who are against masks and the COVID-19 vaccines to gather on the roads near Investors Group Field on Aug. 5 with the intent to block traffic.

While organizing a public protest is not illegal, the man was under a court order that ?prohibits the promotion and organization of gatherings contrary to any order made under the Public Health Act.?

Patrick Joseph Robert Allard, 39, faces charges for failing to comply with a condition of release.

In a post made to his public Facebook page, Allard said ?There?s only two roads into the Winnipeg Blue Bombers stadium. I think we can block both with a rather small amount of people on August 5th ahead of their game.?

He then responds to several people who ask about plans.

Allard was arrested on May 28 for helping to organize a rally fronted by notorious anti-mask rally organizer Chris ?Sky? Saccoccia, who hails from Ontario.

Is it smart to stand in front of 28000+ rowdy bomber fans???

[Horseman]

It is against the Highway Traffic Act to block traffic, the police usually let the natives block Portage & Main when they demonstrate but that is for a short period only. For an event like the Bomber game, I would bet the WPS would be arresting those people blocking the road very quickly.

[theaardvark]

44 new cases in Manitoba today, with 16 of those in Winnipeg. Winnipeg's TPR is now 2.9%, and we had one death a male in his 30's.

Mitigation is still working, glad we haven't gone hog wild with reopening... but vaccination's are lagging again, we need to get people out to get their shots. 

With pFizer shipping more doses than anticipated, looks like we have a couple hundred thousand doses in stock now, with more on the way, but averaging less than 10K per day in actual shots. 

Lotteries, being able to go to events, dine in restaurants, etc... basically bribing people to get their vaccine, I'm not sure that is going to be effective at getting the "resistant" population into the clinics. 

Pounding the fact "99.5% of people dying of COVID right now are not vaccinated, 99% of people in hospital for COVID right now are unvaccinated" should be enough to convince a lot of people. 

I saw something the other day where un-vaccinated patients about to be intubated are begging nurses for the vaccine, and the nurses have to say "Its too late for that now".  Publishing more of these kinds of stories can't hurt...

Its time to scare these hesitant people witless about either getting the vaccine or getting COVID. 

Delta is here and killing people, the 30 year old man dead today in Manitoba had Delta.     

[DM83]

1.) I hate masks, I love working with people, I love Bomber games.
I dislike airport security.  I have two artificial hips, so I get scrutinized  very thoroughly.
The. Guy doing the search, pat down, or running the machine is just doing his job. 
I usually joke with them.

It's the cost of doing what I want to do.

What's the problem. Your vax card shows you are trying your best not to be a spreader, not a carrier and should be safe.  It's the cost of doing business.  Normal? Nope.  Or maybe the new normal.

Things change. Just do it and move on.
Get the Vaxx.  If not stay home.  It's a new world.  Get with it!
Dinosaurs could not adapt .  And look what happened to them.

I hope people with inabilities can find a way to enjoy the game.
Our first championship in what was it? 29 years.  I hope we be goofy for a few minutes pre-game. Then start the journey for another.

If you are immune compromised, I wish you the best. Take. Care of yourself and your family.
How about this for an idea.m can these pro organizations provide a section for people with these kind of situation So?  Sort of like wheelchair access spot So?

[The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB]

Is it smart to stand in front of 28000+ rowdy bomber fans???

These guys aren't smart. LOL
Many fans will have been pregaming since noonish. Would be quite the donnybrook! What's worse for your health, getting vaxed or getting an empty 26 to the back of your head?

 

[theaardvark]

How about this for an idea.m can these pro organizations provide a section for people with these kind of situation So?  Sort of like wheelchair access spot So?

Difference between immune compromise and ability accessable is so huge it really isn't a question.  An accidental exposure can kill an immune compromised person... not so much with a wheelchair access..   Nice thought, but no.

[jeremy q public]

1.) I hate masks, I love working with people, I love Bomber games.
I dislike airport security.  I have two artificial hips, so I get scrutinized  very thoroughly.
The. Guy doing the search, pat down, or running the machine is just doing his job. 
I usually joke with them.

It's the cost of doing what I want to do.

What's the problem. Your vax card shows you are trying your best not to be a spreader, not a carrier and should be safe.  It's the cost of doing business.  Normal? Nope.  Or maybe the new normal.

Things change. Just do it and move on.
Get the Vaxx.  If not stay home.  It's a new world.  Get with it!
Dinosaurs could not adapt .  And look what happened to them.

I hope people with inabilities can find a way to enjoy the game.
Our first championship in what was it? 29 years.  I hope we be goofy for a few minutes pre-game. Then start the journey for another.

If you are immune compromised, I wish you the best. Take. Care of yourself and your family.
How about this for an idea.m can these pro organizations provide a section for people with these kind of situation So?  Sort of like wheelchair access spot So?

Very well said and I agree completely. Except that a section for immunocompromised people doesn?t solve anything. In fact it would be worse. They rely on the herd immunity of others to prevent spread so putting them all in one section would be very high risk. It would be better to put one of them in each section of vaccinated people.

[Pigskin]

56 new cases of Covid in Manitoba today, with 22 of those cases in Winnipeg. Winnipeg's TPR is now 2.8%, and we had another person in there 30's pass away.

I see Patrick Allard thinks he can block the access to the Bomber game on August 5th.

[Pigskin]

Went to a funeral in Small town Sask. on Wednesday and apparently masks are no longer required indoors. Definitely was an eye opener. We kept our masks on, but got some dirty looks and a lot of people tell us masks are no longer require in Sask.

There was about 40 people at the funeral for a 49 year who died of Covid and there was only 6 people wearing masks. No masks just seemed a little strange.

[Tiger]

Some people don?t want to show papers.

I don?t want to miss another Bomber season. 

I don?t want to sit next to someone who is not vaccinated.

I do not want to get sick.

I do not want friends or family to get sick, transmit the disease or have it transmitted to them.

I do not want a super spreader event so the government stops allowing fans.

We are in a pandemic.  You have a choice: get vaccinated, wait for there to be herd immunity, or for the virus to dissipate.

This is a medical issue.  It is not politics.  It is not a constitutional issue because you have a choice and you are not being discriminated against because of an immutable charisteristic such as gender, ethnicity, etc.

While I am empathetic to those that cannot get a vaccine for medical reasons, immuno compromised, and hesitant for safety reasons for RNA vaccines, I am losing tolerance for others. Especially when someone comes on a Blue Bomber site and insults and states we are sheep. 

Push off. 

Nuff said.