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I miss going to the games, meeting up with buddies and bumping into random folks you haven't seen for a bit as you walk around
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2020, 07:44:00 AM » |
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All of the above, obviously. Even though we're still talking CFL on the forum, it's not the same without some actual CFL.
#1 has got to be live games though. Bumming me out! I'm getting doubly sad watching the NFL making it work out ok with covid, meaning we could have too...
Heck, the F1 (yes, F1 again, sue me) race in Magello, Italy the other day had actual fans in the stands! Not many, but still, fans!! And I didn't see much distancing!
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2020, 03:30:34 PM » |
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All of the above, obviously. Even though we're still talking CFL on the forum, it's not the same without some actual CFL.
#1 has got to be live games though. Bumming me out! I'm getting doubly sad watching the NFL making it work out ok with covid, meaning we could have too...
Heck, the F1 (yes, F1 again, sue me) race in Magello, Italy the other day had actual fans in the stands! Not many, but still, fans!! And I didn't see much distancing!
This has been explained to you multiple times...
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2020, 04:02:26 PM » |
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All of the above, obviously. Even though we're still talking CFL on the forum, it's not the same without some actual CFL.
#1 has got to be live games though. Bumming me out! I'm getting doubly sad watching the NFL making it work out ok with covid, meaning we could have too...
Heck, the F1 (yes, F1 again, sue me) race in Magello, Italy the other day had actual fans in the stands! Not many, but still, fans!! And I didn't see much distancing!
It's been said before but here it goes again. https://giphy.com/gifs/week-media-person-RL0xU1daTlMoE
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2020, 04:04:06 PM » |
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Back to the question: All of it but mostly the live socialization is missed during Covid.
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2020, 07:06:34 PM » |
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All of the above, obviously. Even though we're still talking CFL on the forum, it's not the same without some actual CFL.
#1 has got to be live games though. Bumming me out! I'm getting doubly sad watching the NFL making it work out ok with covid, meaning we could have too...
Kansas City fan tests positive, seating section needs to be quarantined.... https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/17/us/chiefs-nfl-covid-spt-trnd/index.htmlThey jury is still very much out on the NFL solution....
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2020, 07:27:23 PM » |
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CFL only league to not play. Not good. Shows some players are too high for a 6 or an 8 game season. I would have liked at least 10 games to complete more of a season. Other leagues worked it out. Winnipeg tried. I give them credit for that. Probably not alot of help from other teams. I'm sure some did but I'm sure some didnt take the league itself seriously and let things just delay it til nothing was done. Even the federal govt did not want to help. They dont care they will just increase taxes gradually to recoup. Easy way to govern.
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2020, 09:11:26 PM » |
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I wasn't expecting that so quickly. It does show how difficult it is to be 100% safe for everybody. If that wasn't true there wouldn't be 6.5 M people infected in the USA. People are still dying daily. Horrible situation.
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2020, 09:33:46 PM » |
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1) Be with friends more in the summer at the games 2) Blue Bomber football! 3) Dressing as GOLD MEMBER 4) Partying 5) Seeing my many Blue Bombers friends and acquaintances I see at Games every year
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2020, 10:56:16 PM » |
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I wasn't expecting that so quickly. It does show how difficult it is to be 100% safe for everybody. If that wasn't true there wouldn't be 6.5 M people infected in the USA. People are still dying daily. Horrible situation.
I thought the goal was to flatten the curve? If the goal is to be 100% safe and have zero deaths then I hate to tell you guys but we'll never have CFL again, and especially not in 2021. Is that what you are proposing? Seriously, tell us what you propose the requirements be before the CFL opens for players and fans again. Oh no! An NFL fan got a "case", so what. Unless he's geriatric, obese or has major problems 99.8%+ chance he'll survive. Most intubated surgeries have worse odds than that, yet people get surgery all the time. I'd gladly take those odds to watch my team play. Cases don't mean squat. Deaths are what matter. Deaths are way down. In fact, it's been postulated that so-called "excess deaths" are basically almost zero now in the USA. Look at the NY covid deaths, there are practically none, and that's with all the reopenings to boot. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/coronavirus-deaths-united-states-each-day-2020-n1177936I'll keep beating the dead horse until the negative nancies realize that what they are really saying is that we can't have football, or anything else nice, until ... basically ... unicorns fly. I want CFL in 2021, thank you very much. I'll protect who needs to be protected (my elderly parents, for instance) and let the healthy and non-septugenarians decide for themselves if 99.8% is good enough.
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2020, 02:15:10 AM » |
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Things a don?t miss in fact it is a blessing NO ROD BLACK calling ball. Sheesh!
Oh ya and I miss Milt commenting on CFL ball.
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2020, 02:19:30 AM » |
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I am pretty sure I heard 1202 deaths in the US yesterday related to Covid.
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2020, 10:45:35 AM » |
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You're again missing the point. Cases matter because it's the spread of the virus that's the issue and not how likely it is that you die from it. If I tested positive right this second now, I would be worried, and not because I think there's a good chance I will die, but because of the people who I interacted with irresponsibly while not knowing I was a carrier who might contract it and who are more vulnerable not only to death but severe illness, and in turn those who then contract it from those I initially spread it to. In the case of the KC game, yeah, probably not a big deal that one person has it from an individual perspective, but that goes to show that a few hundred fans, placed outdoors and looking mostly distanced, in a space that holds closer to 100K people is an 'easy place' for a spread and would be hugely exacerbated if they were to have put in any more fans. Holding an event that acts as a breeding ground is not flattening the curve. I'll keep beating the dead horse until the negative nancies realize that what they are really saying is that we can't have football, or anything else nice, until ... basically ... unicorns fly. I want CFL in 2021, thank you very much. I'll protect who needs to be protected (my elderly parents, for instance) and let the healthy and non-septugenarians decide for themselves if 99.8% is good enough.
Once again, failing to miss the point. It's not about you and your decisions. If you were able to do whatever you wanted and got covid and very likely didn't die, good on you. But the big problem is that in doing so, you are also likely spreading asymptomatically to those you interact with, while you think you're protecting them or not. If it only affected you, sure, you should get to decide what you want to do. But it doesn't and that's why this is such a problem. You might also think it's ok if you get drunk and drive home, and maybe it would be if it was only you at risk, but it's you and whoever you happen to drive by on the road. I've made these points you multiple times and you have never responded. I will assume you will again not respond to this post and I will interpret that as you not having a reasonable counterpoint. Sorry to hijack your thread, PJ!!
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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2020, 11:09:21 AM » |
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I miss the football. Whether we were 3-15 or Grey Cup champs I loved to watch football.
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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2020, 12:47:37 PM » |
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You're again missing the point. Cases matter because it's the spread of the virus that's the issue and not how likely it is that you die from it. If I tested positive right this second now, I would be worried, and not because I think there's a good chance I will die, but because of the people who I interacted with irresponsibly while not knowing I was a carrier who might contract it and who are more vulnerable not only to death but severe illness, and in turn those who then contract it from those I initially spread it to.
In the case of the KC game, yeah, probably not a big deal that one person has it from an individual perspective, but that goes to show that a few hundred fans, placed outdoors and looking mostly distanced, in a space that holds closer to 100K people is an 'easy place' for a spread and would be hugely exacerbated if they were to have put in any more fans. Holding an event that acts as a breeding ground is not flattening the curve.
Once again, failing to miss the point. It's not about you and your decisions. If you were able to do whatever you wanted and got covid and very likely didn't die, good on you. But the big problem is that in doing so, you are also likely spreading asymptomatically to those you interact with, while you think you're protecting them or not. If it only affected you, sure, you should get to decide what you want to do. But it doesn't and that's why this is such a problem. You might also think it's ok if you get drunk and drive home, and maybe it would be if it was only you at risk, but it's you and whoever you happen to drive by on the road.
I've made these points you multiple times and you have never responded. I will assume you will again not respond to this post and I will interpret that as you not having a reasonable counterpoint.
Sorry to hijack your thread, PJ!!
All great points, nicely done. And actually you didn't hijack this thread, you just responded to the hijackers.
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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2020, 01:42:23 PM » |
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I thought the goal was to flatten the curve? If the goal is to be 100% safe and have zero deaths then I hate to tell you guys but we'll never have CFL again, and especially not in 2021. Is that what you are proposing? Seriously, tell us what you propose the requirements be before the CFL opens for players and fans again. Oh no! An NFL fan got a "case", so what. Unless he's geriatric, obese or has major problems 99.8%+ chance he'll survive. Most intubated surgeries have worse odds than that, yet people get surgery all the time. I'd gladly take those odds to watch my team play. Cases don't mean squat. Deaths are what matter. Deaths are way down. In fact, it's been postulated that so-called "excess deaths" are basically almost zero now in the USA. Look at the NY covid deaths, there are practically none, and that's with all the reopenings to boot. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/coronavirus-deaths-united-states-each-day-2020-n1177936I'll keep beating the dead horse until the negative nancies realize that what they are really saying is that we can't have football, or anything else nice, until ... basically ... unicorns fly. I want CFL in 2021, thank you very much. I'll protect who needs to be protected (my elderly parents, for instance) and let the healthy and non-septugenarians decide for themselves if 99.8% is good enough. The goal was to not do stupid things like gathering in big crowds which prevent flattening the curve. Deaths have been going up. Estimates of deaths going up in the fall are going up in the USA. Unless someone has been tested, how do they know they are healthy? How do you think 200,000 people got infected and died in the 1st place. I can't imagine the current projections of possibly seeing 10,000 people a day will die in December in the USA will happen. OTOH we see when people disregard the social gatherings suggestions or even laws, then cases and deaths go up. At the moment the number of new cases in the US is about 40K per day. How many people THEY come in contact with is unimaginable. It's an exponential problem.
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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2020, 01:54:38 PM » |
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Whether we were 3-15 or Grey Cup champs I loved to watch football.
Agreed, but definitely prefer the latter.
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2020, 05:38:54 PM » |
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I miss tailgates, pre and post game celebrations of football and friendships. Whether that is all live or a combination of conversations on forums etc.
We're all hoping we have a 2021 season. An approved vaccine and treatments as we move forward past the fall into spring are what we hope for at the moment. What and when are less clear and we're hearing a wide range of views.
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2020, 08:03:15 PM » |
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I miss the football. Whether we were 3-15 or Grey Cup champs I loved to watch football.
yup that sums it up nicely GC! It is just a terrific brand of football. Highly entertaining in the way it is structured. The bigger field, the 3 downs, the much higher rate of possessions, the Canadian ratio flare and cool weather ambiance. It?s just a great game!  Dam I miss it!
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« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2020, 10:23:39 PM » |
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yup that sums it up nicely GC! It is just a terrific brand of football. Highly entertaining in the way it is structured. The bigger field, the 3 downs, the much higher rate of possessions, the Canadian ratio flare and cool weather ambiance. It?s just a great game!  Dam I miss it! Agree with both of you
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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2020, 12:26:01 AM » |
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Weirdly, I chose ?CFL on TV?. Back in June before it sunk in, I missed the idea of kicking back and watching a Thursday night game between two teams I didn?t have any stake in and just enjoying this incredible league. I missed Friday nights where watching the game or games (double headers were awesome) was my evening plan somehow, whether the Bombers were playing or not, or whether I was out. If I were having a night at a bar or lounge, the games would be on and added another layer of fun to the night. Saturday?s maybe in the early afternoon I?d be running errands, doing yard work, working on a project or something and a game would come on late afternoon or evening and I would throw it on to relax because CFL, baby. Obviously nothing compares going to the Bomber games live, but following the other games casually or watching away games at home with family and friends was very special too and, it turns out, a big part of my life for half the year. Writing this is making me very sad 
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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2020, 01:07:25 PM » |
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I miss the build up to an. important game...when there's going to be a sell out...and you can feel the electricity in the city... Miss that big time...
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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2020, 06:38:52 PM » |
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absolutely love going to games with my friends. Doing a mini tailgate, cruising the crowds, atmosphere always great. Watching the games on TV (away games, other teams) was lots of fun too. Miss the players in training camp, figuring out who is what number, really miss the CFL now. Especially after the high of the Grey Cup!
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« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2020, 03:51:45 PM » |
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I miss it all but I'm especially sad over not being able to see what could've been an exciting season and an opportunity to defend the WFC's 11th title and repeat as champions.
FWIW, I'd be more than okay watching games on TV next season if it meant CFL action with minimal or no fans in the stands. I just miss Canadian Football.
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« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2020, 06:15:49 PM » |
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I miss it all but I'm especially sad over not being able to see what could've been an exciting season and an opportunity to defend the WFC's 11th title and repeat as champions.
FWIW, I'd be more than okay watching games on TV next season if it meant CFL action with minimal or no fans in the stands. I just miss Canadian Football.
No kidding. Our 2020 potential roster was looking very solid. Very few holes to address going into TC especially on offense. The one major concern was the ability of Collaros to stay healthy both short and long term. I'm not sure if we see CFL action that was minimal or no fans. I'd certainly watch but I don't know if it's financially viable. My impression is that more than 50% of revenue is gate based. Teams were not all profitable. That's not a good sign going forward. IMO if we don't have a covid resolution that allows fans, then we likely don't have a 2021 season.
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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2020, 12:10:36 AM » |
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No kidding. Our 2020 potential roster was looking very solid. Very few holes to address going into TC especially on offense.
The one major concern was the ability of Collaros to stay healthy both short and long term.
I'm not sure if we see CFL action that was minimal or no fans. I'd certainly watch but I don't know if it's financially viable.
My impression is that more than 50% of revenue is gate based. Teams were not all profitable. That's not a good sign going forward.
IMO if we don't have a covid resolution that allows fans, then we likely don't have a 2021 season.
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« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2020, 02:53:28 PM » |
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The optimistic view is that a safe and effective vaccine could be available by late this year. Generally it would be in wide distribution going into spring.
TC is still another 7 - 8 months away in May. So that timeline could work out well.
The negative view ( from this mornings news ) is that the virus is mutating and they believe it could be more contagious. While that may not be more deadly it may make the current vaccine's being tested less or totally ineffective. About 40% of populations won't take the vaccine in any case.
It's a moving target moving at high speed so to speak. Science is working diligently.
I think we're all missing every aspect of a normal football season more as each day passes. I miss the discussions about new signings for TC. The draft. The free agency period.
The NFL and college games are a small relief but we want our Canadian game back in 2021. Exactly what the season will look like is unknown at the moment.
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