Started by theaardvark, September 29, 2018, 02:20:52 PM
Total Members Voted: 20
Quote from: Jesse on October 26, 2018, 07:43:35 PMI agree. There will be more of a delay in it going forward, but I would still put money on it happening.
Quote from: bomber4life85 on November 04, 2018, 06:52:10 PMI dont mind it being open. Realistically look around the world and in the largest cities.. No body has it closed. Its ridiculous. Underground is not safe, its confusing and not welcoming. I also dont mind the idea of the overpass for pedestrians. Building something like that would sure be iconic in Canada. If you make it attractive, lit up and maybe even have an retractable tunnel roof that goes open and closed with the seasons and weather.. that would sure be awesome. I just really don't like the underground idea. I never have. Its not like its linking to a subway or something lol.
Quote from: Old Rusty on November 21, 2018, 10:09:29 PMWell said. Cool ideas too. The current underpass is getting dingy.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 22, 2018, 04:02:29 PMBottom line is the entire intersection and square below require repairs, so something has to be done - and that'll be expensive regardless of the plan or open vs. closed.
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 22, 2018, 06:52:35 PMYep, those who oppose it because the "money could be spent better elsewhere" are in for a rude awakening when they see the cash it will take to repair the barriers and the underground.
Quote from: Pigskin on November 24, 2018, 08:42:39 PMYes, but tax payers will not be on the hook for the repairs to the underground.
Quote from: Horseman on November 26, 2018, 08:29:26 PMNot opposed to it because the money could be better spent elsewhere, opposed to it to keep pedestrians from creating a traffic headache at that intersection. People being people will not obey the traffic signals and will be crossing when they aren't suppose to causing traffic delays. I remember how it was in the 70's.
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 26, 2018, 08:36:56 PMBut as discussed elsewhere in this thread, there are other intersections in the city that are busier and many others that would be considered very busy, and all are open to pedestrians.
Quote from: theaardvark on November 27, 2018, 01:01:13 AMAnd those intersections do not have alternate crossing options, and have had fatalities. To make the corner a little more accessible to pedestrians, to shave a few minutes off a few people's "commute", you will be risking lives, and interrupting traffic, causing longer commutes and more pollution for thousands of people daily. And, not only does it create an intersection where pedestrians are at risk, it also makes vehicular traffic more dangerous. More accidents will happen, which will tie up traffic horribly. I sympathize with the people who the closed intersection inconveniences. But I'm sorry, its just not worth the loss of time, money and lives. There are alternatives, no one's life depends on crossing Portage and Main. Many may want to, many may think it is their right, but it isn't... if the city thinks that it is not worth the risk and expense... then there it is.
Quote from: Jesse on November 27, 2018, 04:21:20 AMI still find this argument just ridiculous. This intersection is no different than any other in the world, but for some reason if we open it up, we're risking lives?