Started by AngryGreg, January 26, 2014, 04:25:21 PM
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 04, 2015, 09:13:49 PMThose are all opinion based as well
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 07:29:38 PMLately, last few years, entire careers, any time frame you want to use.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 09:23:39 PMno Ladd has been better in the last few gamesObviously your a bigger Hawk fan to
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 09:26:52 PMNah, it's definitely been Toews. Not a big fan of the Hawks... Still hurting from that sweep in 2010.
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 09:21:10 PMYes, when the vast majority of the fans, experts, players, coaches, GM's, etc... believe a certain player to be the best in the league, it's probably because he is.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 09:33:40 PMnah Ladd better. Glad to hear your hurting Get over it man! it's a matter of opinion you're like a ---- of a wife here.Got it poindexter
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 04, 2015, 09:38:15 PMwe were talking about he will go down in history...not last years Hockey News Rankings
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 09:42:15 PMWere we actually arguing? I thought we were messing around. Must have misread that situation.I don't see how something performance based can be a manner of opinion though. If one player is clearly performing at a much higher level than another player in a performance based league, that player is objectively a better player. If it's close, it becomes a little less objective but this isn't one of those cases.Unless you think Ladd is a better player because he brings better storylines to the team...
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 09:58:34 PMok who's single? I joke around to. Don't forget yer pocket protector.
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 09:47:08 PMYes, and it's very clear that Crosby will go down in history as a better player than Toews. You started arguing it's because he's shoved down peoples throats and I told you it's because he is clearly seen as a better hockey player by the extremely vast majority of people who follow this sport, and even those who don't. If you go up to someone who knows nothing of hockey and ask them to name a current player the most frequent response you'll get is Crosby. It's the same as if you asked the best hockey player of all time to someone who doesn't know the sport. You're going to hear Gretzky incredibly frequently, and probably never hear the name Lemieux. History will/has show(n) Gretzky was the greatest to play the sport. There are people who will drill down deeper and get technical and make legitimate arguments that Lemieux is actually the best to play the game just like people can do for a Toews > Crosby argument but that's something completely different than who will go down in history as a better player.
Quote from: Jesse on March 05, 2015, 12:22:38 AMHe's a three-time Lester B. Pearson Award Winner, two-time MVP, five-time all star, two-time scoring leader, Rocket Richard trophy. And he's only 27.I think he'll go down as one of the greats.
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 05, 2015, 02:49:44 AMof course he will..im clearly not saying hes a bad player, i understand hes a great player...all im saying is that the hockey world tends to shove Crosby down our throats and i get tired of itToews has won just as much, besides the scoring titles, and you barely hear a peep...hell, even Doughty
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 05, 2015, 12:57:30 PMyes and no toews gets his love as well i think.