We've forgotten how to win

Started by Tecno, September 08, 2026, 04:11:06 AM

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Tecno

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 11, 2026, 03:52:15 AMIn hindsight maybe he's right, Harris didn't pick them apart that badly it was mainly broken plays that did the most damage.

And that's the SSK M.O., they keep throwing the d&d at you non-stop for 3-6Y each and wait for the 1-in-4 or so that break out.  All they have to do is get 8 in 2 tries and they have Stevens come in and get the final 2.  Compare to our O where the carrier NEVER EVER breaks out.  So is it SSK O (Busby and D.wiebe??) are better than our O?  Or is it SSK D is better than our D?  Or both.  All I know is we never ever bust one, and they do.

Basically the only way we stop it is when Trevor is off his game enough that he throws it slightly badly and the REC drops it.

We weren't even getting any Willie batdowns.  Which means our entire off-season brainstorm on how to beat SSK amounted to "more, and more creative, cover".  I wanted to see '19-'22 Hall lane-clogging!  Rushing the edge to batdown the screen pass.  Having LB or DL clog the slant lanes, in front of the RECs.  We did none of that.

We did have one-on-ones where the LBs were running the short routes for the SSK RECs, and that messed with Trevor.  But he just found the other open guy somewhere else where the D guy didn't win his battle.
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jdrattops

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 11, 2026, 03:52:15 AMRe-watched the game and Younger reverted to the 3 man rush for most of the game and when he did use 4 the additional rusher was usually Jones. 

I guess this is what he was explaining in his interview earlier this week, Harris knows the Bomber D better than any QB in the league  and Younger doesn't believe they can effectively pressure him so he opts for extra pass coverage.  In hindsight maybe he's right, Harris didn't pick them apart that badly it was mainly broken plays that did the most damage.

How does Harris know our defence so well?  Probably because it is a stagnant non-organic defence that has zero imagination.  On the road if you want to drop to deep zones and keep everything underneath, then fine.  At home with the noise only helping the defence out you have to dial up something different.  Younger won't.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: jdrattops on September 11, 2026, 01:13:26 PMHow does Harris know our defence so well?  Probably because it is a stagnant non-organic defence that has zero imagination.  On the road if you want to drop to deep zones and keep everything underneath, then fine.  At home with the noise only helping the defence out you have to dial up something different.  Younger won't.

Younger's inference was that Harris has played against the Bomber D so many times in the last few years, he knows it better than most of his rookie DB's.

jdrattops

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 11, 2026, 04:43:47 PMYounger's inference was that Harris has played against the Bomber D so many times in the last few years, he knows it better than most of his rookie DB's.

Zero pressures last game.  Younger makes the calls.  It's a stale defence, only works with pressure.  He needs to dial a ton more on Saturday, but can't because he's trained this defence to sit back.  Worst blitzing D in the league, and that's on the coach.

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Quote from: jdrattops on September 11, 2026, 09:33:03 PMZero pressures last game.  Younger makes the calls.  It's a stale defence, only works with pressure.  He needs to dial a ton more on Saturday, but can't because he's trained this defence to sit back.  Worst blitzing D in the league, and that's on the coach.

Point is it's almost impossible to pressure Harris, if he senses pressure coming the ball is gone before they get near him.  He's not vain like Alexander who will hold onto the ball and run around trying to buy time to make the big play downfield. Harris has been around long enough to understand the more he gets hit, the less chance he has of avoiding serious injury.  If the Riders are to proceed, he needs to survive.

Jesse

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 11, 2026, 11:39:36 PMPoint is it's almost impossible to pressure Harris, if he senses pressure coming the ball is gone before they get near him.  He's not vain like Alexander who will hold onto the ball and run around trying to buy time to make the big play downfield. Harris has been around long enough to understand the more he gets hit, the less chance he has of avoiding serious injury.  If the Riders are to proceed, he needs to survive.

And yet, we're the only team this season who failed to sack him at least once.
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: Jesse on Today at 02:10:31 PMAnd yet, we're the only team this season who failed to sack him at least once.

Here's hoping the defense can get to him today.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on Today at 04:48:44 PMHere's hoping the defense can get to him today.

I think the key is to confuse Harris and keep him guessing, show 6 drop 2, show 4 bring 6.