Bombers need a rebuild the team is going into the toilet.

[Jesse]

Ya, Condell is not our biggest problem, or even really any problem at all.  That said, BC guessed our "is it run or pass" correctly about 80% of the time.  The LBers and FS cheated up appropriately, pre-snap.

That 2-3 crossers, but most everyone stays in the box look isn't fooling anyone.  And Condell doesn't break the tendency enough.  We're telegraphing our plays and it really hurts us.

So many other teams I have no freakin' idea what they are going to do most downs -- but with us I can predict it correctly about the same as BC did!  That's never good.

I disagree completely. It feels like all our problems stem from the play calls and system. And you list a few of the reasons why.

[LXTSN]

I disagree completely. It feels like all our problems stem from the play calls and system. And you list a few of the reasons why.

I believe that the system is actually pretty good. They just need to be a little less predictable.
Unfortunately that means passing on first down and sometimes running on second and longish. 2 things that this forum would flame him for if he tried.

Those seasons where Zach played so well, he was excellent at reading the defense and making the throw. He also would roll out a little more and avoided pressure from inside the pocket. These are all things he's now struggling to do when he's healthy, and our backups struggle with it too.

QB play is more important than anything in this league and it really shows.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I believe that the system is actually pretty good. They just need to be a little less predictable.
Unfortunately that means passing on first down and sometimes running on second and longish. 2 things that this forum would flame him for if he tried.

Those seasons where Zach played so well, he was excellent at reading the defense and making the throw. He also would roll out a little more and avoided pressure from inside the pocket. These are all things he's now struggling to do when he's healthy, and our backups struggle with it too.

QB play is more important than anything in this league and it really shows.

50/50 IMO, if they can't find more ways to win games both the QB's and the system are at fault.  With a decent offence they should have outscored BC well before the defence collapsed.  If the offence continues to perform poorly late into the season, I believe Condell will not be brought back next year.

[Jesse]

I believe that the system is actually pretty good. They just need to be a little less predictable.
Unfortunately that means passing on first down and sometimes running on second and longish. 2 things that this forum would flame him for if he tried.

Those seasons where Zach played so well, he was excellent at reading the defense and making the throw. He also would roll out a little more and avoided pressure from inside the pocket. These are all things he's now struggling to do when he's healthy, and our backups struggle with it too.

QB play is more important than anything in this league and it really shows.

The system is predictable, it has too many players in the same areas of the field, it's wasting a player in having Brady sprint out wide, it doesn't have a hot read, all of this leads to the worst red zone offence in the league and the league-worst turn-over ratio.

[LXTSN]

50/50 IMO, if they can't find more ways to win games both the QB's and the system are at fault.  With a decent offence they should have outscored BC well before the defence collapsed.  If the offence continues to perform poorly late into the season, I believe Condell will not be brought back next year.

Drives 2 and 3 they got inside the 10 before kicking a FG on 3rd and 2. I'd argue that they were in a groove and killed any potential momentum after kicking FG's.

[LXTSN]

The system is predictable, it has too many players in the same areas of the field, it's wasting a player in having Brady sprint out wide, it doesn't have a hot read, all of this leads to the worst red zone offence in the league and the league-worst turn-over ratio.

The hot read is a legitimate concern but I don't think spacing has been an issue. We've had a lot more midrange looks this year over last year but we do run away from it at times.
For some reason last game, we pulled 4(ish) WR screen plays? I guess that was a counter for stacking the box? We we're getting 2 yards on first down each time from those. I think there is enough built into our offence to be successful but we lack some offensive firepower. Our best offensive weapons are Brady, Demski, Wilson and White. After that it's a steep dropoff.

My point is that I think our players are more to blame than the coaches.

[Jesse]

The hot read is a legitimate concern but I don't think spacing has been an issue. We've had a lot more midrange looks this year over last year but we do run away from it at times.
For some reason last game, we pulled 4(ish) WR screen plays? I guess that was a counter for stacking the box? We we're getting 2 yards on first down each time from those. I think there is enough built into our offence to be successful but we lack some offensive firepower. Our best offensive weapons are Brady, Demski, Wilson and White. After that it's a steep dropoff.

My point is that I think our players are more to blame than the coaches.

I'm limited by the TV view half the time, but it sure feels like we have a lot of guys always bunched together. Which means all the defenders are there too. It doesn't feel like we ever scheme our receivers into space. Best we can do is the comeback routes ad nauseum.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Drives 2 and 3 they got inside the 10 before kicking a FG on 3rd and 2. I'd argue that they were in a groove and killed any potential momentum after kicking FG's.

It shouldn't have come down to FG's, they kicked FG's because Brown failed to get a first down or put them into the endzone. That could be his fault or the play calling, but I think Brady was repeatedly stuffed in the red-zone.

[Jesse]

It shouldn't have come down to FG's, they kicked FG's because Brown failed to get a first down or put them into the endzone. That could be his fault or the play calling, but I think Brady was repeatedly stuffed in the red-zone.

Brady stuffed? When the D is clogging the middle and we do a dive down the middle???

[Tecno]

Brady stuffed? When the D is clogging the middle and we do a dive down the middle???

Why we refuse to do RPO and read the D is totally beyond me.  BC D was telegraphing when they guessed run, and it was abundantly clear certainly by the time the ball hit Dru's hands.

Any half-decent O would rip that D a new one with a quick hitter on those looks.

And a flea flicker where he gives it to Brady who chucks it back would be devastating as entire D's cheat up to stop Brady.  You'd get 1-on-1 for every other REC, or less!!  And absolutely no one would follow Daniels or Eli out.

It's pathetic we have these perfect setups because we're 100% predictable and yet can't ever make anyone pay.

[Jesse]

Why we refuse to do RPO and read the D is totally beyond me.  BC D was telegraphing when they guessed run, and it was abundantly clear certainly by the time the ball hit Dru's hands.

Any half-decent O would rip that D a new one with a quick hitter on those looks.

And a flea flicker where he gives it to Brady who chucks it back would be devastating as entire D's cheat up to stop Brady.  You'd get 1-on-1 for every other REC, or less!!  And absolutely no one would follow Daniels or Eli out.

It's pathetic we have these perfect setups because we're 100% predictable and yet can't ever make anyone pay.

Never suggest a flea flicker to MOS, he'll laugh at you. Cheap trick/not real football.

[Tecno]

Never suggest a flea flicker to MOS, he'll laugh at you. Cheap trick/not real football.

Tell that to Buck and Dinwiddie!