Blue Bombers add quarterback

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Quote from: TBURGESS on March 04, 2026, 02:25:44 AMStarted a few games isn't what I call a starter.

What I'm saying is the chances of any Canadian QB, especially one who didn't have US coaching, becoming a starter in the CFL is remarkably slim. If he makes it he will be a unicorn, like Rourke.

Datillo had nearly 10,000 yards in passing.  While there aren't many there were a few Canadian QB's.
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Quote from: TBURGESS on March 04, 2026, 02:25:44 AMStarted a few games isn't what I call a starter.

What I'm saying is the chances of any Canadian QB, especially one who didn't have US coaching, becoming a starter in the CFL is remarkably slim. If he makes it he will be a unicorn, like Rourke.

Better watch out, "cause the times they are a-changin'", in times past it would have been hard to believe Canadians could be the best players at their position, now it's not that unusual.

dd

While NAT's are now playing non-traditional positions, they are the exception not the rule. Other that Rourke, there is no NAT in the league in any teams Qb room, and I don't think that's going to change anytime soon. No one other than a small group in Winnipeg, even has Elgersma on any Qb radar screen, and I really doubt that changes. I saw him play in the Vanier Cup and he didn't stand out at all, so I m not holding my breath on this guy at all

bluengold204

Quote from: dd on March 04, 2026, 09:57:27 PMWhile NAT's are now playing non-traditional positions, they are the exception not the rule. Other that Rourke, there is no NAT in the league in any teams Qb room, and I don't think that's going to change anytime soon. No one other than a small group in Winnipeg, even has Elgersma on any Qb radar screen, and I really doubt that changes. I saw him play in the Vanier Cup and he didn't stand out at all, so I m not holding my breath on this guy at all

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Tecno

Quote from: bunker on March 04, 2026, 12:05:21 PMIMO QB is too important a position to worry much about Nat or non-Nat. You need to find the best player at the position, period. If it happens to be a Nat, that's a bonus, but its not worth enough to even consider starting an inferior QB.

I don't know.  NAT tips the scale a bit.  Let's say you can pick from Alexander or Rourke.  To me Alexander is better, but not by too much.  So which QB do you hire?  The question is made tough because Rourke is a NAT and lets you start, say, another IMP OL.

So, on the margin, being a NAT does alter the calculus.
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bunker

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 12:28:38 AMI don't know.  NAT tips the scale a bit.  Let's say you can pick from Alexander or Rourke.  To me Alexander is better, but not by too much.  So which QB do you hire?  The question is made tough because Rourke is a NAT and lets you start, say, another IMP OL.

So, on the margin, being a NAT does alter the calculus.

I'd sign Rourke. But because I think he's the better QB, not because he's a Nat.

Would you have played Ford over Fahardo? You can start another American, sure, but meanwhile  inferior QB play dooms your play off chances.


Tecno

Quote from: bunker on Today at 02:45:53 AMI'd sign Rourke. But because I think he's the better QB, not because he's a Nat.

Would you have played Ford over Fahardo? You can start another American, sure, but meanwhile  inferior QB play dooms your play off chances.

Rourke -> Alexander
is not the same as
Ford -> Fajardo

Ford is a never-was and has never proven squat and likely never will.  Rourke & Alexander are both future long-term superstars of the CFL.  Fajardo is the perennial mediocre (see: Maier, Arbuckle).

If you want to use Ford in this analogy then compare him to say, Strev.  Even that's not a good one because Strev is way better (has way more wins!).  Maybe Ford to Crum.  Nope... still not good, Crum has won more.  LOL
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TBURGESS

Gemini said:
Since 1970, the CFL quarterback landscape has been a masterclass in the "Import Model," with Canadian-born talent serving as a rare anomaly. 
1. CFL QB Demographic Breakdown (1970–2026)
The disparity between Canadian and American starters is one of the most significant statistical gaps in professional sports.

CategoryCanadian-Born (National)American (Import)
Starts > 3 Games~14~275
"True" Starters (QB1)3 (Dattilio, Rourke, Ford)~158
Percentage of True Starters1.86%98.14%




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dd

Quote from: bluengold204 on March 04, 2026, 10:53:05 PMFord
Haha, good one, proves my point even better. Most would argue ford doesn't belong in any qb room but is there only because he's a NAT. If he was an import he'd be out on the street. That's hardly being the best at his position , I don't think he's in football a year from now and same will be said for elgersma.

theaardvark

Quote from: dd on Today at 04:26:09 PMHaha, good one, proves my point even better. Most would argue ford doesn't belong in any qb room but is there only because he's a NAT. If he was an import he'd be out on the street. That's hardly being the best at his position , I don't think he's in football a year from now and same will be said for elgersma.

I'll take that bet. 
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