C. Streveler

[Tecno]

No way we go with Strev as #2 this year, no way.

... and yet...

Pretty sure everyone said the same thing in FA25...

We'll need legit options in-house before they rule out Strevie.  Or he rules himself out first... but Masoli has proven you can bust your knee 3 times in a row and finally have an injury-free year.

[LXTSN]

I don't think it's a bad idea, but we really have no clue if he'd be good or bad as a coach. Career backups have a pretty good history of coaching.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

... and yet...

Pretty sure everyone said the same thing in FA25...

We'll need legit options in-house before they rule out Strevie.  Or he rules himself out first... but Masoli has proven you can bust your knee 3 times in a row and finally have an injury-free year.

Would that be last season when Masoli barely played?  Can't see the Lions continuing on with him as their backup, he didn't look capable of taking over if Rourke went down.

Don't think Strev would be healthy until halfway through next season at best, in that time Zach would have been knocked out of 3 games.  Anyone aware if Strev is documenting his rehab online again?  That would be a good indication of his intentions and mood, just can't see that dawg ever giving up. 

[Pigskin]

Would that be last season when Masoli barely played?  Can't see the Lions continuing on with him as their backup, he didn't look capable of taking over if Rourke went down.

Don't think Strev would be healthy until halfway through next season at best, in that time Zach would have been knocked out of 3 games.  Anyone aware if Strev is documenting his rehab online again?  That would be a good indication of his intentions and mood, just can't see that dawg ever giving up. 

Agree, Masoli might have stayed health, but he wasn't very productive.

[Blue In BC]

... and yet...

Pretty sure everyone said the same thing in FA25...

We'll need legit options in-house before they rule out Strevie.  Or he rules himself out first... but Masoli has proven you can bust your knee 3 times in a row and finally have an injury-free year.

His performance ruled him out.

[blue_or_die]

Some posts in this thread seem to imply that a QB coach in a professional league is teaching basic fundamentals like arm mechanics, drop back and how to read a defense. That's pretty funny. The guys he'd be coaching have been playing their entire lives at an elite level and most will have received NCAA coaching and some will have NFL camp experience. Assistants at the professional level are entirely different.

It would be like thinking a goalie coach in the NHL shows up to practice and "coaches" the netminder, "if the puck gets shot on your right side down the middle, use that pad that's on your right hand - it's called a blocker and you can use it to stop the puck! ...Yeah! Just like that!"

[Tecno]

Some posts in this thread seem to imply that a QB coach in a professional league is teaching basic fundamentals like arm mechanics, drop back and how to read a defense.

I'm pretty sure all of Strevie's QB coaches have been trying to fix his arm mechanics since 2019...  AND his ability to read a D.

What pray tell are the QB coaches coaching them on if not improving their football IQ?

[Tecno]

His performance ruled him out.

And yet we started him instead of Wilson or The Greek in that game he blew his knee out.  Put another way: it took him blowing out his knee before we gave up on him...

The question is, does that last sentence end in "temporarily" or not...

[Tecno]

Would that be last season when Masoli barely played?  Can't see the Lions continuing on with him as their backup, he didn't look capable of taking over if Rourke went down.

Pretty sure he did a lot of BC SY duty (yes, Rourke does some/much too).  And his knee held up for the whole season of that.

Never said he did much, just that the knee survived, which is, frankly, quite shocking.

[theaardvark]

The key with CS17 was that he never gave up, and he had moments of brilliance that we hoped would become the norm, not the exception. He wasn't a "one step forward, two steps back" problem, but he was more a "one step forward, then a step to the side, then a step back, then a step to the other side" kind of player.  When he worked something out in his game, something else became an issue.

Like the caterpillar that thought about how his feet worked...

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

The key with CS17 was that he never gave up, and he had moments of brilliance that we hoped would become the norm, not the exception. He wasn't a "one step forward, two steps back" problem, but he was more a "one step forward, then a step to the side, then a step back, then a step to the other side" kind of player.  When he worked something out in his game, something else became an issue.

Like the caterpillar that thought about how his feet worked...

Very true, Strev had a few good games when you'd think, "he's finally figured it out", the first game of last season being one were he stood in the pocket with calmness and delivered the ball with good passes. The next time out it would be a total reversion, take the snap, fake to the right, run to the left and fake a throw somewhere in between to keep the defenders honest. Repeat, repeat, repeat.

[Blue In BC]

And yet we started him instead of Wilson or The Greek in that game he blew his knee out.  Put another way: it took him blowing out his knee before we gave up on him...

The question is, does that last sentence end in "temporarily" or not...

Ruled in by default and poor recruitment. He was appointed the # 2 QB the moment he was signed regardless of what the other QB's showed.

[blue_or_die]

I'm pretty sure all of Strevie's QB coaches have been trying to fix his arm mechanics since 2019...  AND his ability to read a D.

What pray tell are the QB coaches coaching them on if not improving their football IQ?

I'm not saying these things aren't worked on...that's exactly what they're doing. I'm saying they aren't teaching them like it's a brand new concept. Someone like Streveler knows perfect arm mechanics and knows a ton about reading a D, he just couldn't necessarily do it himself effectively in a game situation at the pro level needed. It's like when you see one of those obese old Russian men who coach girls gymnastics - they absolutely cannot do anything they teach, but they are in that job because they have a wealth of knowledge to pass on.

There's also a difference between teaching and coaching. Streveler might be a terrible coach or a great coach, I just don't think we can base that on his career as a player.

[dd]

I want a #2 Qb that can competenty run our offense, Strev has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt he can't, we have to get a Dustin Crumb here that when put into the game, gives us a hope our offense can run more than 6 pass attempts in a game