Blue Bombers agree to terms with veteran defensive lineman Jake Ceresna

Started by DCM, February 01, 2026, 06:46:11 PM

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Sir Blue and Gold

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Quote from: Tecno on February 03, 2026, 03:14:34 AMYou need to be able to get pressure with 4.  We couldn't, and that's why we switched to a lot of 3.

With upgraded pieces on the DL we should be able to get there with 4.  We don't have to get sacks, but we need the QB to know/feel he doesn't have all day.  He has to feel he needs to get the ball out after 4-5s nearly every snap.


You need to be able to get pressure regardless of which front you're playing.

Pressure is not an option. No proven defense theory suggests this. Never in my life have I ever heard that playing a three man front means you don't need to attack the QB. This is just weird fake theory that some Bombers fans latched on to after watching our defense last year.

We do not need to lead the league in sacks or blitz rate. We do need to make the quarterback play faster than he wants while punishing him physically if he holds the ball.

These are baseline, generally agreed upon defensive requirements no matter the league or country.

Jesse

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 03, 2026, 05:23:45 PMYou need to be able to get pressure regardless of which front you're playing.

Pressure is not an option. No proven defense theory suggests this. Never in my life have I ever heard that playing a three man front means you don't need to attack the QB. This is just weird fake theory that some Bombers fans latched on to after watching our defense last year.

We do not need to lead the league in sacks or blitz rate. We do need to make the quarterback play faster than he wants while punishing him physically if he holds the ball.

These are baseline, generally agreed upon defensive requirements no matter the league or country.

And we often sent 4, Tony Jones acting as a guy on the line, but we just weren't good at it, as you've mentioned.

And the team is clearly trying to address that. Younger's system is still going to be what it is, but hopefully Lawson/Ceresna make it work better.
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blue_gold_84

Pressure should be priority #1 for any D-line. Unfortunately, this team has lacked the horses on said D-line to do that consistently in recent years. I'm not sure the system in place has/had any bearing on that.

Ceresna is a stellar addition to remedy that issue. I still wonder about the bookend opposite Jefferson, though.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Jesse on February 03, 2026, 05:34:42 PMAnd we often sent 4, Tony Jones acting as a guy on the line, but we just weren't good at it, as you've mentioned.

And the team is clearly trying to address that. Younger's system is still going to be what it is, but hopefully Lawson/Ceresna make it work better.

If Younger wants to continue his 3 front line they should move to a 3-4 set with a different LB or DB coming on every play.  Mix it up like Noel Thorpe does, so the QB can never predict where pressure will come from.  Bombers had outstanding success rushing QB's with 3-4 sets back in the day.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Jesse on February 03, 2026, 05:34:42 PMAnd we often sent 4, Tony Jones acting as a guy on the line, but we just weren't good at it, as you've mentioned.

And the team is clearly trying to address that. Younger's system is still going to be what it is, but hopefully Lawson/Ceresna make it work better.

This means JY's system fundamentaly didn't work last year with the personnel we deployed.

I'm fine if that's the conclusion and I'm hopeful things will work better this year. In my opinion, the system needs to go back to a more conventional approach which is no secret to anyone here.

It's important to recognize that the difference between Richie Hall's defense and where JY took us. It felt like it should be a continuation since it happened slowly but the result are metric tonnes apart.

Jesse

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on Today at 05:02:12 PMThis means JY's system fundamentaly didn't work last year with the personnel we deployed.

I'm fine if that's the conclusion and I'm hopeful things will work better this year. In my opinion, the system needs to go back to a more conventional approach which is no secret to anyone here.

But how do you reconcile that with the fact that our defence was 1st in points allowed?
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Jesse on Today at 05:04:39 PMBut how do you reconcile that with the fact that our defence was 1st in points allowed?

We were fairly good in the red zone but did allow teams to consume time and long drives to get there. That's not the best combination. It impacts TOP for our offence and field position.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Jesse on Today at 05:04:39 PMBut how do you reconcile that with the fact that our defence was 1st in points allowed?

Does that really matter when they're the 6th best team in the league?  The defence was relatively ineffective playing against the CFL's best QB's.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on Today at 05:17:25 PMDoes that really matter when they're the 6th best team in the league?  The defence was relatively ineffective playing against the CFL's best QB's.

It does matter. The defense was still a stronger phase of this team than the offense was last season. I know that isn't necessarily saying much but it should be considered when breaking down the issues that impacted this team in 2025 - on both sides of the ball.

The lack of generating pressure up front seemed to stem from a poorly built D-line, which only hindered the defensive unit as a whole. The defense was solid in the redzone but struggled elsewhere on the field, surrendering long drives and big plays to opposing offenses far too often, particularly top tier ones.

Jesse

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on Today at 05:17:25 PMDoes that really matter when they're the 6th best team in the league?  The defence was relatively ineffective playing against the CFL's best QB's.

They lost games because the offence kept turning the ball over. That's not on the defence.
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