New rules / commissioner's statements

Started by theaardvark, November 15, 2025, 03:08:19 PM

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bomber beetle

Quote from: blue_or_die on November 21, 2025, 08:38:37 PMIt's because you're the only person who thinks that this is the reason. Stew-Jo included.

This is super true. Soccer is so popular in Canada that today Valour FC announced is ceasing operations indefinitely. The timing of this post is brilliant - thank you.

The Whitecaps expect 53,000+ for their semi final game. The Lions supposedly drew 26,000 for their semi final. You are welcome. Your timing is brilliant too.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: bomber beetle on November 21, 2025, 09:15:50 PMThe Whitecaps expect 53,000+ for their semi final game. The Lions supposedly drew 26,000 for their semi final. You are welcome. Your timing is brilliant too.

MLS does well as soccer's best north american league. Has a decent reputation generally. Ratio rules muted: for Canadian teams, three players on the entire 30 man roster must be Canadian. That's it. Valour 's league was atrocious for that and the quality of play sucked bad.

MLS? May the best play and being Canadian doesn't get you on the field.

53,000+ is good.

dd

Quote from: bomber beetle on November 21, 2025, 09:15:50 PMThe Whitecaps expect 53,000+ for their semi final game. The Lions supposedly drew 26,000 for their semi final. You are welcome. Your timing is brilliant too.
What does it cost to go to a MLS soccer game, roughly?? And a CFL game??

bomber beetle

Quote from: dd on November 21, 2025, 09:49:00 PMWhat does it cost to go to a MLS soccer game, roughly?? And a CFL game??

Not sure about regular season. Probably comparable.
The Lions had discounts and specials for their playoff game. This Whitecaps game is premium level pricing and the resale market is well over face value.

Tecno

Quote from: dd on November 21, 2025, 09:49:00 PMWhat does it cost to go to a MLS soccer game, roughly?? And a CFL game??

Whenever I was in Bomber Store doing STH things I always took a look at the little Valour pamhplet.  ST's were roughly half the price of Bomber STH.  Although it's a bit tough to compare because they only opened the lower bowl and only the home side!!  LOL

So for soccer the supply / demand curve was dealing with super tiny demand.  And if Whitecaps are doing better they are probably doing it with vastly cheaper ticket prices compared to a CFL game, just like Valour.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: blue_or_die on November 21, 2025, 08:38:37 PMThis is super true. Soccer is so popular in Canada that today Valour FC announced is ceasing operations indefinitely. The timing of this post is brilliant - thank you.

LOL.  Good riddance.  WFC lost around $1M a year every single year carrying that lame sport.  Every game ends 1-0, fun!
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: bomber beetle on November 21, 2025, 07:48:21 PMThere will never be a CFL specific stadium built in those three cities if this trend continues. Calgary, Edmonton and maybe even Halifax will be more inclined to build a stadium that suits both sports. Perhaps the Alouettes can forgo the costs of modernizing Mcgill and move into Saputo.

That's a decent point, but one big problem: it hasn't been put forward as one of the rationales.  If "soccerization" is a big thing, and it will help the CFL get into more Canadian cities and save on stadium costs, then why not have Johnston just come out and say that.

So it goes back to "no one trusts what they are saying".  The FAQ points are easily debunked or nebulous.  Just tell people the real reason: whether "Americanization" or "soccerization" or whatever.  Just don't lie to us, though.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 21, 2025, 06:21:29 PM10 meters for a first down is close to 11 yds, not much of a change but could cause a few hiccups. Plus 100 meter field is close to 110 yds (109.361) which is what they're trying to get rid of.

Then make it 90M, roughly 100Y.  Voila.  If it's really about "fit all stadiums" and "generate more O" and NO OTHER REASONS then they can do 90M.  But they won't, because it's all lies.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on November 21, 2025, 01:28:17 PMI didn't stay for the trophy presentation but if it was even audibly louder than those other guys they really, really showed him. High fives all around.

We did show him.  It can't be a good feeling to have been at many GCs (I hope he has, he said he was a "fan"), watched the other commish's muted receptions, and then get the worst/loudest boos ever seen at a GC.

Watch him on TV at that moment.  He's visibly shaken and moved.  I think the CFL, commish, BoG, massively underestimated the blowback this would cause.

We all sent a message.  I think the message was received.  I think the polls are all lies/massaged, or they are not properly measuring STHs and other real ticket buyers.  "Follow CFL a lot" doesn't really mean anything: that would apply to my buddy who watches on TV and never goes to games.  Do a separate poll of just STHs: that will give you better information.

And also ask non-CFL fans / prospective new customers the question: "Will having a 100Y field instead of a 110Y field affect your decision to buy tickets to a CFL game?  more likely to buy, no change, less likely to buy".
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 21, 2025, 07:33:23 PMThis was already covered almost two months ago in the original thread.

Paid shills have to shill the pre-provided FAQ talking points...?
Never go full Johnston!

bomber beetle

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 02:06:17 AMWhenever I was in Bomber Store doing STH things I always took a look at the little Valour pamhplet.  ST's were roughly half the price of Bomber STH.  Although it's a bit tough to compare because they only opened the lower bowl and only the home side!!  LOL

So for soccer the supply / demand curve was dealing with super tiny demand.  And if Whitecaps are doing better they are probably doing it with vastly cheaper ticket prices compared to a CFL game, just like Valour.

Ticket prices for the lions and whitecaps are very similar.

The whitecaps semi final is sold out. Resale on ticket master ranges from $117 to $760 and they are selling.