2026 Training Camp

Started by Pigskin, April 29, 2026, 02:06:23 PM

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Quote from: BIGBLUE204 on Today at 03:42:18 PMMaybe the daniels signing can let Ike be the RB he should have been all along. Guy can be a handle full with the ball in his hands and would be able to give Brady a break everyone once in a while.


I'd think Peterson is the better choice at RB if there is a need.
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Quote from: BIGBLUE204 on Today at 03:42:18 PMMaybe the daniels signing can let Ike be the RB he should have been all along. Guy can be a handle full with the ball in his hands and would be able to give Brady a break everyone once in a while.


He's hardly touched the ball, how do you know this?

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Quote from: Tecno on Today at 07:30:44 AMYou mean before he's called upon?  Of course WHEN he's called upon he has to wear an ineligible.  The question is what about before.  We know, like you said, when he's some DT or something then he just switches jerseys.  But if your statement above is about the 6th before an injury... it's a darn good question and it would be nice to see a rule-book answer for it, eh?

Man, I could have sworn Micah switched back and forth (many times) between sides of the ball... might be wrong.  Is the "locked in" thing in the rule book too?  It would have to be?

So back in the olden days the "both sides" guys could never be a hoggie??  Because if there was a lock-in rule (back then), he'd be stuck at ineligible...

So if you run out of OL then you may be severely weakened (or in the case of WFC's usual roster allocation -- screwed) at DL?  Seems rather harsh.

Just for fun... you mentioned 6th (maybe) needing to be an ineligible number.  What about the 7th?  We used to dress 2 NAT backup OL (6th/7th) for nearly every game (most recently Eli/Wallace before Wallace took over LG)... could we have made Wallace (arguably the 7th then) an eligible number?

This (sorta, work with me here) walks-like-a-hoggie talks-like-a-hoggie Daniels guy certainly could mess with these norms.  What if you don't dress a 6th at all (assuming that's allowed, which I'm nearly positive it is).  Daniels plays how a 6th does (and more).  Now you've gotten your 6th and bypassed any "6th must wear ineligible number" rule.  Ya, it's a stretch, but put 20lb on Daniels and let's say he sucks at REC, TE, FB but excels at OL (or at least Eli's jumbo/TE spot)...

Interesting thought exercises, and worth examining to gain the advantage of having your 6th (or 7th) wear an eligible until injury!  It's little tricks like this that can perhaps give you that little edge needed to win a close one.


Daniels does not have the bulk of an O-lineman, he looks more like Jevon Cottoy and matches Jordan Reeves in flexibility, Chris Jones would love this guy.  He could handle blocking on the edge against LB's and DB's and assist other O-lineman with double teams, but he would fair badly one on one against D-linemen.


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There is no reason Daniels can't be the extra hoggie in the jumbo set, even wearing a receiver jersey.  That's the beauty of him. He can be a blocker or receiver on any play, and both in the "throw to Eli" type plays we used last year. 

Which then brings up, how do you align to defend?  Does he have a cover, or is he treated as a hoggie.  Presnap read on that can lead to a lot of what my highschool coach used to call "pro pass" where the TE crashes down into the D backfield and gets nailed in the chest with the ball.  Or leak into the flat.

If he's covered, he can go into the pattern, or pass block.

I think if he gets even 50% of the snaps, he's going to be a nice outlet/distraction that our QB's can use.

Condell can cook up a lot of plays to take advantage of him. 

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on Today at 05:17:05 PMDaniels does not have the bulk of an O-lineman, he looks more like Jevon Cottoy and matches Jordan Reeves in flexibility, Chris Jones would love this guy.  He could handle blocking on the edge against LB's and DB's and assist other O-lineman with double teams, but he would fair badly one on one against D-linemen.

He says he can take out a DT... and the descriptions of his blocking prowess puts him a little different class than Cottoy.  Sure, Cottoy can run through guys, and I'm sure Daniels will too, but it is his blocking that is the key.  On BO20 runs, or ND10 sweeps, he's going to blow up whoever is first into the gap.  And maybe the second guy too.
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Quote from: theaardvark on Today at 05:19:57 PMThere is no reason Daniels can't be the extra hoggie in the jumbo set, even wearing a receiver jersey.  That's the beauty of him. He can be a blocker or receiver on any play, and both in the "throw to Eli" type plays we used last year. 

Which then brings up, how do you align to defend?  Does he have a cover, or is he treated as a hoggie.  Presnap read on that can lead to a lot of what my highschool coach used to call "pro pass" where the TE crashes down into the D backfield and gets nailed in the chest with the ball.  Or leak into the flat.

If he's covered, he can go into the pattern, or pass block.

I think if he gets even 50% of the snaps, he's going to be a nice outlet/distraction that our QB's can use.

Condell can cook up a lot of plays to take advantage of him. 

He says he can take out a DT... and the descriptions of his blocking prowess puts him a little different class than Cottoy.  Sure, Cottoy can run through guys, and I'm sure Daniels will too, but it is his blocking that is the key.  On BO20 runs, or ND10 sweeps, he's going to blow up whoever is first into the gap.  And maybe the second guy too.

Well he's weakish and slowish so I don't know, hopefully they throw the ball at him a few times every game so we can find out what he's good at.

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Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on Today at 05:26:43 PMWell he's weakish and slowish so I don't know, hopefully they throw the ball at him every game so we can find out what he's good at.

Weakish?  Are you talking about the bench press reps?  And slowish, the barely sub 5 sec 40?

Well, if he drops 10-15 like the Bombers are envisioning, that 40 gets faster, and bench?  Sorry, huge numbers on bench mean you have the right physique for bench pressing.  Bad numbers on bench while having a reputation for being a sh-t kicking blocker, I'm OK with.

If he can show sure hands and the "out 5 yards, fall forward for 2 more" type of 2nd down and 5 receptions that Woli was good for, but also clears paths for 10 and 20, he's the perfect pick.  Would he have been there at 13?  Maybe, but probably not 14, and if we didn't trade up, Ham might have.

By the end of next year, we will see.
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Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on Today at 05:26:43 PMWell he's weakish and slowish so I don't know, hopefully they throw the ball at him a few times every game so we can find out what he's good at.

He's been blocking DL his whole college career. Bigger guys than we have in the CFL. That's his skill set.
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Quote from: CrazyCanuck89 on Today at 12:22:15 PMExactly, Daniels is there to mainly block and catch the odd pass.  I doubt he will be used like some of the other tightends, taken in the draft.

Walters' comments during the draft trade talk seem to support this.  He didn't mention anything about his running or cathing ability - all he talked about was a monster blocker.

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Quote from: VictorRomano on Today at 07:09:03 PMWalters' comments during the draft trade talk seem to support this.  He didn't mention anything about his running or cathing ability - all he talked about was a monster blocker.

Walters' comments after the draft spoke about him being a receiving threat so the defence couldn't ignore that aspect of our offence.
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