Global Players 2025

[Blue In BC]

Anyone have a list of possible top candidates in the 2025 draft for Global players?

Bombers currently have 3 on our roster. Sheehan is the only one that was a regular on our AR.

Others: Ogbevoen, Wietz were on our PR for most of the year but did get a game or 2 on the AR. Karamoko was not re-signed.

Is there any view on whether either of the PR two have any real chance of making the AR as the 2nd global on the AR? One or the other might be an ST player but what about a decent rotational player on defence? It comes at the expense of a Canadian.

From a ratio point of view, it still means a global coming on in rotation means an import coming off for the most part. Obviously that changes a bit for a team that starts more than 7 Canadian players.

I guess the question is whether choices for global players is becoming a stronger depth pool. Aside from kickers, we aren't really seeing global players seeing the field as starters.

Only 2 rounds again in the draft and very few signed as free agents post draft. Hmmmm. What do we do?

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Not sure who, how, or why the Global program is still functioning now that Ambrosie is gone, I supposed the GM's are benefiting from the Australian kicker supply, so maybe they see the point of it...but I don't. 

[Blue In BC]

Not sure who, how, or why the Global program is still functioning now that Ambrosie is gone, I supposed the GM's are benefiting from the Australian kicker supply, so maybe they see the point of it...but I don't. 

The catch at the moment is that there are fewer good dual role import kickers and even fewer Canadians as choices. I suppose in a perfect world in the current situation might be a global punter and a global PK. In that sense you'd save a DI spot.

At the least I'd like to see a few more rounds to sort through the choices. It seems that global players make rosters by default including on the PR. Very little competition.

Maybe that answers what I'd look for this draft. Find a global PK who could be the development PK for 2026.

[Blueforlife]

Kicking game in the CFL has benefited from globals, interesting to see what is next

[TecnoGenius]

Hansen was still blowing up players on ST for TOR in the '24 EDF.  Not sure if he made any big plays against us in the GC.  I think he was on their AR the whole season.  He probably would have been worthwhile keeping in '24 FA.  Not like our not-Sheahan GLOB did much of anything, right?  Oh well.

I'm so ambivalent about the GLOB program, but it is 1 or 2 free dresses on the AR, thus a great way to spare a DI or get an extra, fresh, STer.  Thus you still want to obtain good ones.

[Blue In BC]

Hansen was still blowing up players on ST for TOR in the '24 EDF.  Not sure if he made any big plays against us in the GC.  I think he was on their AR the whole season.  He probably would have been worthwhile keeping in '24 FA.  Not like our not-Sheahan GLOB did much of anything, right?  Oh well.

I'm so ambivalent about the GLOB program, but it is 1 or 2 free dresses on the AR, thus a great way to spare a DI or get an extra, fresh, STer.  Thus you still want to obtain good ones.

Teams add a 2nd global player at the cost of another Canadian on the AR. Last year we added that 2nd global once injuries added up to our Canadian depth at times. Essentially we ran out of Canadians that played on ST's that were healthy.

So yes, I'd rather roster a Canadian that might stick around longer if he's just playing ST's in his 1st couple of seasons.

It doesn't seem many global players that aren't kickers of some sort, last into their 3rd season.

EDIT: Noting that the PR was increased in size by 2 to allow PR spots for 2 global players. At times there are teams that roster 2 on the AR and only a one the PR. The Bombers for the most part only had 1 on the AR and 2 on the PR but for awhile actually had 3 on the PR.

A 3rd global on the PR takes away a spot from another Canadian or Import. That said, we lost a bunch of players to the 1 game IR or longer during the season.

Min $ for the SMS is $750 however there are bound to be some additional costs for PR players of any designation. Just for arguments sake I'm going to round that out @ 1K per game.

Therefore those 2 additional PR spots = $18K per spot X 2 = $36K for the season. The global on the AR replacing a Canadian is a trade off financially on an ELC Canadian of about $74K

It could be said teams are spending $100K+ on the global program. I'd prefer to spend that on additional Canadians on the roster if it was up to me. Conversely we could just reduce the PR number back down to 10.  The SMS savings would then be spent across the rest of the roster in theory. The roster size could jsut be increased by 1 additional Canadian, even if you sustain the 1 global on the AR.

Either global players earn the right to beat out other nationality players or they don't. Why give them a free space on the bingo card so to speak. Like any player on the PR, either you move up or you move out.

Aside from kickers / punters, only Hansen lasted on our roster for a 3rd season IIRC. I'm not sure I can name another global player on any team that survived into his 3rd season.

As I said, we have 3 globals on our current roster and will draft 2 this year. I don't expect to see 2 on the Ar to open the season.  I don't expect to see more than 2 on the PR to open the season. So are we going to fake 1 game IR for 2 global players or do 2024 draft choices get beat out by 2025 draft choices?

I would find it difficult to believe more globals will beat out other rookies to take more PR spots than 2.

Currently 26 Canadians are on our roster. A couple of 2024 draft choices still likely to be added before TC. We're going to draft 8 - 9 more ( barring trades ) which will give us about 35 going into TC. A couple may return to college or be flyers ( NFL ) that don't attend TC.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Teams add a 2nd global player at the cost of another Canadian on the AR. Last year we added that 2nd global once injuries added up to our Canadian depth at times. Essentially we ran out of Canadians that played on ST's that were healthy.

So yes, I'd rather roster a Canadian that might stick around longer if he's just playing ST's in his 1st couple of seasons.

It doesn't seem many global players that aren't kickers of some sort, last into their 3rd season.

EDIT: Noting that the PR was increased in size by 2 to allow PR spots for 2 global players. At times there are teams that roster 2 on the AR and only a one the PR. The Bombers for the most part only had 1 on the AR and 2 on the PR but for awhile actually had 3 on the PR.

A 3rd global on the PR takes away a spot from another Canadian or Import. That said, we lost a bunch of players to the 1 game IR or longer during the season.

Min $ for the SMS is $750 however there are bound to be some additional costs for PR players of any designation. Just for arguments sake I'm going to round that out @ $K per game.

Therefore those 2 additional PR spots = $18K per spot X 2 = $36K for the season. The global on the AR replacing a Canadian is a trade off financially on an ELC of about $74K

It could be said teams are spending $100K+ on the global program. I'd prefer to spend that on additional Canadians on the roster if it was up to me. Conversely we could just reduce the PR number back down to 10.  The SMS savings would then be spent across the rest of the roster in theory. The roster size could jsut be increased by 1 additional Canadian, even if you sustain the 1 global on the AR.

Either global players earn the right to beat out other nationality players or they don't. Why give them a free space on the bingo card so to speak. Like any player on the PR, either you move up or you move out.

Aside from kickers / punters, only Hansen lasted on our roster for a 3rd season IIRC. I'm not sure I can name another global player on any team that survived into his 3rd season.

Les Mauro hung around for 4 seasons playing last season for the Elks but he's now a FA., not really a great example  as he had Japanese heritage but in reality was American as apple pie, all his football development was in the US. 

A concern with so many CFL teams relying on Australian kickers is they're depriving Natl. kickers of the opportunity to develop as professionals, their careers are over before they get the chance to start. Most of the old guard kickers in the CFL are Natl's, and they've done very well over time, so the argument can't be made that the talent level coming out of Canadian colleges is inadequate.

[Blue In BC]

Les Mauro hung around for 4 seasons playing last season for the Elks but he's now a FA., not really a great example  as he had Japanese heritage but in reality was American as apple pie, all his football development was in the US. 

A concern with so many CFL teams relying on Australian kickers is they're depriving Natl. kickers of the opportunity to develop as professionals, their careers are over before they get the chance to start. Most of the old guard kickers in the CFL are Natl's, and they've done very well over time, so the argument can't be made that the talent level coming out of Canadian colleges is inadequate.

Mauro was never very good. He made the PR essentially by default like so many and was an emergency fill in when there were injuries. He played in 38 games over 3 seasons of 54 total. IIRC that was before we had / found a global punter as a regular on the AR. ( overlapped in 2023 ).

Of 18 globals in the 2024 draft, I only see 8 still on any rosters.

I think the issue with Canadian choices is a supply / demand issue. There are less of them compared to world wide choices.

There are 23 global players cumulatively still on CFL rosters. Of that 11 are Kickers or punters. Only a few going into their 3rd year.

[TecnoGenius]

Mauro was never very good. He made the PR essentially by default like so many and was an emergency fill in when there were injuries. He played in 38 games over 3 seasons of 54 total.

Maruo was pretty good as far as GLOBs go.  I'm pretty sure he saw more real game D snaps than Hansen did?  (Maybe not, as Hansen was part of "cheetah"?)  Maruo was no worse on D than a guy like Rush was.

Maruo also was AR in a couple of cups, IIRC.

I think we only moved on from the 2 because we wanted to put $0 extra into the GLOB players.  We're just cheap, as we didn't see the extra value and started getting misery with the extra $.  As BinBC pointed out, every $10k is seen to be important.

If we get nothing out of the GLOB draft, we could do worse than picking up Maruo off FA again.

[Blue In BC]

Maruo was pretty good as far as GLOBs go.  I'm pretty sure he saw more real game D snaps than Hansen did?  (Maybe not, as Hansen was part of "cheetah"?)  Maruo was no worse on D than a guy like Rush was.

Maruo also was AR in a couple of cups, IIRC.

I think we only moved on from the 2 because we wanted to put $0 extra into the GLOB players.  We're just cheap, as we didn't see the extra value and started getting misery with the extra $.  As BinBC pointed out, every $10k is seen to be important.

If we get nothing out of the GLOB draft, we could do worse than picking up Maruo off FA again.

 I wouldn't totally disagree. However the ultimate question is do we end up with 2 on the AR ( I think only one ) and 2 on the PR.

Since we have 3 now and will draft 2 more in 2025, do we want 6 in TC fighting for 3 spots realistically?

We can't tell yet whether the 2 new draft choices will be better or worse than the ones we have from 2024.

As I mentioned it's also a question of what type of player best fits into our depth across the roster. We don't really need another LB and will have trouble finding spots and roles for the imports. A DE is a possible choice if we roster that 2nd player.

If one is available in the draft I'd look for a Kicker that could be a development player for 2026. Or even another Punter that might replace Sheehan if he moves in free agency.