Winnipeg Blue Bombers release veteran receiver Drew Wolitarsky

Started by Sir Blue and Gold, January 27, 2025, 01:14:05 PM

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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 31, 2025, 02:53:26 AMThe Lions also have Natl. Jevon Cottoy 6'5" 230 lbs to go along with 6'-5" 210 lb. McInnis, makes it pretty hard for Woli. to come in as anything other than a backup.  Sure wish the Bombers could draft Natl. receivers of that size.

I can't recall the last time we had a REC that size work out well, either NAT or IMP!  Agudosi would have qualified but he was a huge bust.  We just can't find a way to utilize the huge body types like other teams can.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on January 30, 2025, 10:26:08 PMHaving one of your main (and important) starters also doing returns always scares the heck out of me.  Returners get injured all the time.

It would be especially bad if your #1 starting RB was your returner as there is usually no on-par backup available.  You might be able to make it work if he's a DB or WR, as then you have plenty of guys dressed who can fill in.  However, again, you don't want it to be your #1 best WR.

Just look at how often Logan got creamed.


If stefan was your main returner. he could be a change of pace rb to spell/backup Olivera. As I mentioned if Olivera got hurt then a pr rb would come in as starter

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Its always puzzled me why the Bombers don't use JA27 more in their game planning. Yes he'd be taking yards away from BO, but it would also give BO a rest and less pounding on his body and JA gives us a change of pace, scat back type of RB vs the bruiser. I thought for sure when Collaros injured his hand, we d come back with a 2 back backfield and run motion, counters etc with the 2 of them and pound the ball down torontos throat. Nope, we didn't bring in an extra running back, we threw the ball!!! ridiculous game planning and misuse of talent.

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Quote from: dd on January 31, 2025, 03:34:37 AMIts always puzzled me why the Bombers don't use JA27 more in their game planning. Yes he'd be taking yards away from BO, but it would also give BO a rest and less pounding on his body and JA gives us a change of pace, scat back type of RB vs the bruiser. I thought for sure when Collaros injured his hand, we d come back with a 2 back backfield and run motion, counters etc with the 2 of them and pound the ball down torontos throat. Nope, we didn't bring in an extra running back, we threw the ball!!! ridiculous game planning and misuse of talent.

I feel like a guy like Brady, the more you give him, the more you get out of him. Taking him on and off the field just interrupts the flow.

The Grey Cup game was ridiculous, though.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on January 31, 2025, 03:01:20 AMI can't recall the last time we had a REC that size work out well, either NAT or IMP!  Agudosi would have qualified but he was a huge bust.  We just can't find a way to utilize the huge body types like other teams can.

Clercius at 6'2, 217 is kinda on the small side...
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Quote from: theaardvark on January 31, 2025, 03:49:30 PMClercius at 6'2, 217 is kinda on the small side...

BOLO was 6'-4 225 lbs. but never got much chance to show his stuff, he looked pretty good in Hamilton last season.

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Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 31, 2025, 04:18:00 PMBOLO was 6'-4 225 lbs. but never got much chance to show his stuff, he looked pretty good in Hamilton last season.

He got just as many opportunities in Winnipeg over two seasons as he did in Hamilton last season.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on January 31, 2025, 03:34:37 AMIts always puzzled me why the Bombers don't use JA27 more in their game planning. Yes he'd be taking yards away from BO, but it would also give BO a rest and less pounding on his body and JA gives us a change of pace

We've never done that when we had a league-best franchise RB.  McCrae had the same problem, and Flanders, and Lankford...

We're never a 1a / 1b back team, like CGY, TOR, etc.  We're more like a #1 and #3 back team.  The backup never sees the field until injury or garbage time.

And that's perfectly fine because it works so well for us.  The 1a/1b teams usually have a lackluster ground game.

I also think Brady wants it that way (and AH before him).  They want the stats.  They want to be league-best.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: theaardvark on January 31, 2025, 03:49:30 PMClercius at 6'2, 217 is kinda on the small side...

I said "that work out well".  Whether Clercius "works out well" remains to be seen.  From his rookie year I'd say he did ok.  What remains to be seen is if he's the next McInnis... and if we can utilize a McInnis style NAT properly.
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Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 31, 2025, 04:18:00 PMBOLO was 6'-4 225 lbs. but never got much chance to show his stuff, he looked pretty good in Hamilton last season.

Proves my point.  Clearly we didn't know (or care) how to use him to his top ability.  We've always done better with the lanky REC (Lawler), tough 5'10" inside RECs (Woli, Bailey), and water bugs (Dress).

If we had 2015 Eric Rogers on the team, he'd probably only get 500Y here.  It's just who we are.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 01, 2025, 06:02:56 AMWe've never done that when we had a league-best franchise RB.  McCrae had the same problem, and Flanders, and Lankford...

We're never a 1a / 1b back team, like CGY, TOR, etc.  We're more like a #1 and #3 back team.  The backup never sees the field until injury or garbage time.

And that's perfectly fine because it works so well for us.  The 1a/1b teams usually have a lackluster ground game.

I also think Brady wants it that way (and AH before him).  They want the stats.  They want to be league-best.

Until they get hurt. RB is a demanding position on the body and we use the run more than most if not all teams in the league. I m shocked BO hasn't had an injury like Stanback, Butler, etc. He started the year off hurt. Its a matter of managing the body and ensuring when we can give him a rest , we do. To heck with the personal stats, its a team game. JA has been a total team guy through all of this. I still think he's the better pure runner vs the brawler.