MOP Candidates

Started by Jesse, October 25, 2024, 05:15:23 PM

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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: ichabod_crane on October 28, 2024, 06:30:03 PMBo played on a loser team. If he hauled them into the playoffs I could see it maybe, but not now. Comeback player of the year for sure.

I didn't study him close enough this season unfortunately. Could he throw a deep ball again or just short to intermediate stuff? His shoulder looked shot for several Seasons and was
Nowhere the player he once was because of that.  Thought he was done like khari jones at the end of his career with a limp noodle. So Just wondering if he returned to his old form or Hamilton just adjusted their offence around his Limitations now.


BLM has shown huge improvement this year over the last 2-3 seasons and is now throwing the ball beautifully and quickly once again, that's why I suspect he's done stem cell therapy which is quite popular in his home state of Texas. If Hamilton offered to trade Bo to Wpg. just for this playoff run, it would certainly be worth considering starting him in front of Zach.
 

TBURGESS

If Brady O had the same stats this year, but we didn't make the playoffs, he'd still be MOC and in the running for MOP. 
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: ichabod_crane on October 28, 2024, 06:30:03 PMI didn't study him close enough this season unfortunately. Could he throw a deep ball again or just short to intermediate stuff?

BLM had 3-4 games where he was superb (350-500Y, many TDs) without the benefit of garbage time.  I don't recall if he was playing "weak" teams though.

He had maybe 4-6 games where he put up good numbers in garbage time.

The other games he didn't do so well, or was benched.  Some games he really, really stunk the joint up (lots of INTs, etc).

I would say whatever he put in his Wheaties this year worked wonders.  Gone was the noodle arm.  The accuracy got dialed in for the good games and he was as good as any QB out there.  He could throw anywhere on the field.

More importantly, his brain was working again and he was making better decisions, especially when he had time to go through his reads.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 28, 2024, 07:11:11 PMIf Hamilton offered to trade Bo to Wpg. just for this playoff run, it would certainly be worth considering starting him in front of Zach.

Trade deadline passed.  And even if we wanted to circumvent it by HAM releasing him first, they can't, as vet release day has passed.

If in some parallel universe we could make this happen, ya go for it, as Wilson likely will not win anything if Zach goes down.  But normally I would not be interested in BLM as he'll eventually (soon) revert to his garbage form.

So any new "insurance" QB will have to come from the couch, and I don't think there's anyone there now.  So we roll with what we have and pray, just like SSK (and probably TOR, and maybe BC?) is doing.  Only MTL (and maybe BC?) is sitting pretty with 2 legit #1 QBs on the AR.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Cool Spot on October 28, 2024, 06:51:53 PMThis year, Mitchell passed for 5451 yards. Previous MOPs (who are QBs) yards passed:

  • 1E Chad Kelly (2023) - 4123
  • 1W Zach Collaros (2022) - 4252
  • 1W Zach Collaros (2021) - 4183 (shortened year)
  • 2W Bo Levi Mitchell (2018) - 5119
  • 3W Mike Reilly (2017) - 5830
  • 1W Bo Levi Mitchell (2016) - 5377
  • 1E Henry Burris (2015) - 5703
  • 1W Travis Lulay (2011) - 4815
  • 1W Henry Burris (2010) - 4945
  • 1E Anthony Calvillo (2009) - 4639
  • 1E Anthony Calvillo (2008) - 5633

I see what you're saying, but I've tweaked your list above by adding in where each QB's team ended in the standings that year.

Note:

1. Every single winner above made the playoffs.
2. All but two of them won their division in the regular season.
3. The biggest outlier, Mike Reilly, was doing his "voted toughest player in the league" era on a not-so-great team, and was basically impossible to bring down when scrambling and escaping to get yards.  And he still got more passing yards than BLM (and probably 400Y additional rushing if I had to guess).

So, precedent says BLM's season would have to, on the whole, have looked better than Mike Reilly's.  He would have to have been as outstanding.  I remember 2017 and how EDM always broke our hearts as Reilly would just greased-pig his way out of any sort of contain or pressure we brought.  And he repeated it to our embarrassment in our first home WSF in ages.

If 2024 BLM wasn't better than 2017 Reilly, then I don't think they will give it to him, because that would be new precedent.  UNLESS the rest of the entire field is so weak there's literally no other choice... even with the "story" aspect.

And maybe a "woe is my early life" hard-luck D player or something will have an even better story we just don't know about yet.

P.S. If everything is equal, including lack of "story" quality, maybe people will vote on likeability.  And Brady is much-loved league-wide for his Northern abused dog work.  I've read many team forums where random people will say "I hate the Bumblers, but I gotta like Brady for his dog rescue".  Now do BLM... universally hated by everyone in BC, EDM, SSK and WPG (and probably TOR, MTL and OTT too).
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J5V

There's always another QB. Where did Kelly come from?
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