Redblacks at Argos GDT

Started by GOLDMEMBER, August 13, 2023, 07:56:37 PM

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dd

Quote from: Pete on August 14, 2023, 01:50:31 AM
seriously i think they should just abandon the command center.. they miss just as many as the refs do
I couldn?t agree more. A process that was supposed to catch what the refs missed, misses just as much as the refs. Punt the process and let the game roll on. CC is brutal

The Zipp

Chad was impressive again...

417 yards

21/28

4 TD's

Pick 6 wasn't great but every QB tosses those

TecnoGenius

Quote from: The Zipp on August 14, 2023, 02:39:52 AM
Chad was impressive again...

417 yards

21/28

4 TD's

Pick 6 wasn't great but every QB tosses those

Not usually/often on those outs; except this season where even vet QBs are throwing INTs to the wide out.  Strange.
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Lincoln Locomotive

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 14, 2023, 05:26:16 AM
Not usually/often on those outs; except this season where even vet QBs are throwing INTs to the wide out.  Strange.

Zach has 3 this season....so yeah it does seem strange.    Kelly looks like he's for real and so does VAJ
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Lincoln Locomotive on August 14, 2023, 08:33:44 AM
Zach has 3 this season....so yeah it does seem strange.    Kelly looks like he's for real and so does VAJ

I'm still not 100% sold on Kelly and VAJ.  Kelly could be the next Jennings/Franklin, looking mega-hot for a season then... poof.  VAJ has a better chance of being legit because he's worked his way up.  But I'm still not sold on his mental stability and thus long-term capability as the #1.

If VAJ keeps going at this level for 3 seasons and is clearly legit, then would that make him the QB that took the longest to develop in ages?  Even Cavillo didn't take that many seasons of sucking, did he?  VAJ could wipe out all doubt by beating us in WDF.  I'll be praying that doesn't happen!
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Lincoln Locomotive

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 14, 2023, 08:57:03 AM
I'm still not 100% sold on Kelly and VAJ.  Kelly could be the next Jennings/Franklin, looking mega-hot for a season then... poof.  VAJ has a better chance of being legit because he's worked his way up.  But I'm still not sold on his mental stability and thus long-term capability as the #1.

If VAJ keeps going at this level for 3 seasons and is clearly legit, then would that make him the QB that took the longest to develop in ages?  Even Cavillo didn't take that many seasons of sucking, did he?  VAJ could wipe out all doubt by beating us in WDF.  I'll be praying that doesn't happen!

In any pro sport, it's always about what have you done for us lately....football is no exception and QBs come and go and few hold their place at or near the top.    Currently both Kelly and VAJ are leading their respective teams and seem dominant.    Zach has had consecutive seasons of greatness interrupted by injuries and it was believed by many, including myself, before he signed with us that he was pretty much done and too fragile.    Well surprise surprise he wasn't done and has done nothing but win for us and bringing us two back to championship and was within a frogs hair of a 3-peat.    He was 6-2 up until his injury and not sure if he is credited with the win or is it Dru?   
The fact that Zach has played mostly injury free during his tenure with the Bombers is in itself miracles considering his injury riddled past.    Football is a violent sport and QBs are one devastating injury away from having their careers snuffed out.    As I watch Kelly and VAJ, they are at this moment in time playing like winners and despite it only being mid-season, barring injury one can project their trend to continue in the short term.   
In the long term....who really knows and one can speculate all they want, but nobody really knows what the Football Gods will have in store for them.
When we face BC with VAJ and TO with Kelly, we will see how they have progressed.   One thing is certain, Zach will need to be at his best to beat either of those teams.
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Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 14, 2023, 08:57:03 AM
I'm still not 100% sold on Kelly and VAJ.  Kelly could be the next Jennings/Franklin, looking mega-hot for a season then... poof.  VAJ has a better chance of being legit because he's worked his way up.  But I'm still not sold on his mental stability and thus long-term capability as the #1.

If VAJ keeps going at this level for 3 seasons and is clearly legit, then would that make him the QB that took the longest to develop in ages?  Even Cavillo didn't take that many seasons of sucking, did he?  VAJ could wipe out all doubt by beating us in WDF.  I'll be praying that doesn't happen!


Kelly is legit. Vernon Adams I'm still not 100% sure. He looks better than at any time during this career though.

pjrocksmb

Kelly will be great imo

Adams will vary from poor to very good.

I like them both.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Lincoln Locomotive on August 14, 2023, 02:26:35 PM
In any pro sport, it's always about what have you done for us lately....football is no exception and QBs come and go and few hold their place at or near the top.    Currently both Kelly and VAJ are leading their respective teams and seem dominant.
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As I watch Kelly and VAJ, they are at this moment in time playing like winners and despite it only being mid-season, barring injury one can project their trend to continue in the short term.   
In the long term....who really knows and one can speculate all they want, but nobody really knows what the Football Gods will have in store for them.

Fair point.  I agree.  Short term they are on rolls.

But I suspect next season, or the one after, VAJ drops off.  Kelly is a wildcard since we have so little film: he's only really played since the GC game!  But so far he looks like Jennings/Franklin to me.  But no one can know.  Let's not forget Dane Evans began starting and had 2 great years basically dominating the East, and now he's the Jennings.

Football QBs are a strange bunch.  I much prefer the slow & steady Matt Nichols and Zach types to the flash in the pan and wildly inconsistent wildcards.  Doesn't mean the wildcards can't get you a GC though!
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buckzumhoff

At least there were two good games this week.  Blowout in Montreal and blowout in BC.

dd

Quote from: buckzumhoff on August 14, 2023, 11:24:26 PM
At least there were two good games this week.  Blowout in Montreal and blowout in BC.
I dunno, we had a massive defensive brain fart to start the game and gave up a 65 yd run play for 7 and then Collaros gifted them another 7. Other than those 2 plays, we really thrashed Edmonton 38-7. The buffoonery made a blowout an otherwise close game, but Edmonton offense didn?t pose a threat  really at all, their scheme and talent is brutal, pretty much why they?re 0-9 and will do well to go 3-15 this year.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on August 17, 2023, 03:00:22 AM
I dunno, we had a massive defensive brain fart to start the game and gave up a 65 yd run play

As I predicted, our EDM game was the game they (whoever that is) picked for the Tues prime-time replay slot.  Everyone got a lot of fun out of that game: WPG-haters got to see us sweat for nearly 2Q and talk big trash.  General CFL fans got to see a big comeback (always entertaining) and 4TDs from an unknown QB.  Including a Kenny beaut that makes all fans woot.  Heck, maybe even EDM fans were having fun... maybe.  They do still get to keep their free seats for next game!  Bonus!
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: dd on August 17, 2023, 03:00:22 AM
I dunno, we had a massive defensive brain fart to start the game and gave up a 65 yd run play for 7 and then Collaros gifted them another 7. Other than those 2 plays, we really thrashed Edmonton 38-7. The buffoonery made a blowout an otherwise close game, but Edmonton offense didn?t pose a threat  really at all, their scheme and talent is brutal, pretty much why they?re 0-9 and will do well to go 3-15 this year.

Agreed. The final score flattered the home team, IMO.
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