GDT BC at Ssk, Sat Jun 13, 6:00PM

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Blue In BC

Quote from: bomb squad on June 15, 2026, 08:55:05 PMThat "interference" is Illegal Contact.

Sure but the point is the same about the timing and whether a pass is thrown or not.
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bomb squad

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 15, 2026, 09:10:20 PMSure but the point is the same about the timing and whether a pass is thrown or not.

Ok

dd

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 15, 2026, 09:10:20 PMSure but the point is the same about the timing and whether a pass is thrown or not.
Illegal contact can be called whether a pass is thrown or not--Qb drops back to pass, eyes his receiver who gets knocked down so the Qb has to take off and run or get sacked, that IC is called every time

Tecno

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 15, 2026, 01:36:11 PMIf the ball isn't in the air then the penalty is interference not DPI. That's a 10 yard penalty and not a spot foul. I'm not sure about the timing of what happened.

Not according to the rule book.  At least not what I found so far!  6.4.11 Forward Pass Interference does not mention the timing of the ball leaving the QB vs when the contact occurs.  At all.  So unless there's some "superseding" rule somewhere that clarifies, I don't think it matters when the contact occurs at all.

As TSN always explains ad nauseam, "DPI is IC but when the ball was thrown that way".  This play was clearly IC, and the ball was thrown that way, thus DPI.

And it stands to reason.  Think of quick hitters where the QB is chucking it 6Y past the LoS, for maybe 12Y total from QB to REC, say on 2nd & 5 on a quick slant.  Some crossing LBer smacks him a little early.  Are you telling me it matters whether or not the dude got smacked in the 0.5s the ball was actually in the air?  Like refs can gauge this??  Impossible.  They just look for contact and ask themselves if the ball went that way.  That's it.  Just like TSN says.

If you want to prove me wrong, find the rule, and/or tell me the next time it happens in a game and command acts like it matters.  Oh ya, and Waffler's pics show it was super clear in this instance the hit came before the pass, and the fact command called DPI proves the timing doesn't matter.
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Tecno

Quote from: bunker on June 15, 2026, 12:00:37 PMObviously this. There is an infraction about blocking downfield before the ball is thrown. If the ref judges the offensive player is initiating the context, then enforce this.

Yes, that's right near the DPI article, and it's called Illegal Interference Blocking Downfield.  And that governs what team A can do (Oullette), not team B (BC D).  So it's pretty much irrelevant to this.  (There's the behind-LoS rule right before it, that also doesn't apply here.)  These are the penalties we often see and associate with "blocking downfield" flags/verbiage.

If you search the entire rule book for "prior to a pass" and "prior to a forward pass", and that verbiage only exists in this small little section.
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