GDT BC at Ssk, Sat Nov 8, 5:30PM

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Tecno

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 12, 2025, 01:20:42 AMLike I said earlier, take all TD calls out of the refs. hands completely.

But you always should have / need a "call on the field".  The refs need to make their best attempt, with the caveat that they need to err on the side of "letting things play out" in case they are wrong.  Then command can "uphold / overturn".

There's nothing I hate more than when the refs give us no call on the field.  That should never happen.  If you didn't clearly see it then assume it didn't happen.  Let command overturn if you're wrong.  Like DBC: refs are taught they have to see the body part touch the turf, they can't assume it did.

The only way you should take away refs' call on the field is if we can get tech so advanced that it can tell us the instant a player is DBC, or the ball breaks the plane, or whatever.  That's at least 10 years out, if ever.
Never go full Johnston!

ichabod_crane

All sour grapes. At best inconclusive. Not enough CLEAR evidence to overturn the call.

dd

Quote from: Tecno on November 12, 2025, 06:54:50 AMBut you always should have / need a "call on the field".  The refs need to make their best attempt, with the caveat that they need to err on the side of "letting things play out" in case they are wrong.  Then command can "uphold / overturn".

There's nothing I hate more than when the refs give us no call on the field.  That should never happen.  If you didn't clearly see it then assume it didn't happen.  Let command overturn if you're wrong.  Like DBC: refs are taught they have to see the body part touch the turf, they can't assume it did.

The only way you should take away refs' call on the field is if we can get tech so advanced that it can tell us the instant a player is DBC, or the ball breaks the plane, or whatever.  That's at least 10 years out, if ever.

I ve never seen a play where the refs didn't make the call on a particular play. Never.

Tecno

Quote from: dd on November 12, 2025, 05:50:23 PMI ve never seen a play where the refs didn't make the call on a particular play. Never.

I have.  Or at least where no one announced the call.  So there may have been a ref call, but they just went straight to command.  Then when they came back they didn't say "upheld/overturned" they just said the result.  Whenever it happens it really irks me.

Now, there may have been a ref call, but it was never relayed or even implied by what was said.

I've posted about it when it's happened over the years -- mostly '23-'24 IIRC.  So it's in there if someone wants to search and have the game on PVR still.
Never go full Johnston!

dd

Quote from: Tecno on November 12, 2025, 11:05:12 PMI have.  Or at least where no one announced the call.  So there may have been a ref call, but they just went straight to command.  Then when they came back they didn't say "upheld/overturned" they just said the result.  Whenever it happens it really irks me.

Now, there may have been a ref call, but it was never relayed or even implied by what was said.

I've posted about it when it's happened over the years -- mostly '23-'24 IIRC.  So it's in there if someone wants to search and have the game on PVR still.

Gotcha, so that's on tan, not the refs as for sure they would have made the call.