MOS on Injury/Collaros Update

Started by Slingin Sammy, September 09, 2025, 11:36:48 PM

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Dirty? No. Dirty would imply he meant to do it, and intent is difficult to prove.
Reckless? Yes. He made contact with Collaros' helmet. That's a penalty per the rulebook.

Blubbering on social media about a valid fine and then pretending to be be a victim here is a pretty bad look. Reavis seems pretty thin-skinned despite his on-field persona.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 12, 2025, 04:11:40 PMWe're seriously saying that hitting the quarterback straight on is somehow dirty?

That's wild!

No kidding. I didn't think it was a dirty hit. Yes there was contact with the head and by definition it's a penalty. I think when it comes to QB's it almost always results in a fine. It's an effort to make defensive players more aware of avoiding certain outcomes.

Players are getting fined every week for high hits or hits to the head. I think he may get another fine for public statement as well. I did notice he mentioned the level of the fine ( 1/4 game check ) which is below the maximum. The level of aggression is taken into account.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 12, 2025, 04:21:29 PMNo kidding. I didn't think it was a dirty hit. Yes there was contact with the head and by definition it's a penalty. I think when it comes to QB's it almost always results in a fine. It's an effort to make defensive players more aware of avoiding certain outcomes.

Players are getting fined every week for high hits or hits to the head. I think he may get another fine for public statement as well. I did notice he mentioned the level of the fine ( 1/4 game check ) which is below the maximum. The level of aggression is taken into account.

I think you're correct, the CFL is trying to send a message to defensive players to be aware of QB's health, they're the bread and butter of the league and without them the game suffers. People won't pay to watch Chris Streveler vs Jake Maier, the economic consequences are substantial.

Younger ran the "safe sacks" program in TC to emphasis the importance of treating QB's with kid gloves, unfortunately it's worked a little too well in the Bombers case!

Pete

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 12, 2025, 04:48:36 PMI think you're correct, the CFL is trying to send a message to defensive players to be aware of QB's health, they're the bread and butter of the league and without them the game suffers. People won't pay to watch Chris Streveler vs Jake Maier, the economic consequences are substantial.

Younger ran the "safe sacks" program in TC to emphasis the importance of treating QB's with kid gloves, unfortunately it's worked a little too well in the Bombers case!
to football traditionalists this will sound bad, but they may need to look at a rule against hitting qbs with excessive force. This year they already instituted a rule to protect receivers against  hits where they are in a position they can't protect themselves. A qb is in the same position a lot.
Im not saying they shouldn't be hit, but theres no way in Zacs case that Reavis couldn't have let up and still be assured of the sack.
Its been obvious this year that the overall watchability and quality of the majority of games suffer when we are seeing backup qbs as well as putting their safety at risk

Throw Long Bannatyne

Apparently Reavis was fined earlier this season for hitting Rourke in the head. Maybe he's not dirty, just stupid.

Sure enough, week 7.

Saskatchewan defensive back C.J. Reavis has been fined for delivering a high hit to the head of BC quarterback Nathan Rourke.


 

Blue In BC

Unfortunately Collaros has become somewhat of being at risk to even a lighter blow. It's the sum total of all the earlier hits.
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Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 11, 2025, 11:33:03 PMReavis fined for dirtiness.

https://3downnation.com/2025/09/11/this-some-bullsht-saskatchewan-roughriders-db-c-j-reavis-fined-for-high-hit-on-bombers-qb-zach-collaros/

Another fine coming up next week for being a mouthy ****.

"I got 350lb+ offensive lineman diving at my knees INTENTIONALLY after the play.. no flag or fine. But CFL wanna fine me a quarter of my game cheque cus a qb got hurt," Reavis wrote on X, tagging the CFLPA.  "Do yall actually care about player safety or QB safety? This some ******** & y'all know dat."

Classy. What is it about the Riders? Last season they completely blew apart Streveler's knee while he was standing in the pocket, before that it was Marino doing basically the same thing to Masoli while Rider nation cheered with glee. They are certainly a scumbag football team.
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Jesse

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 12, 2025, 04:21:29 PMNo kidding. I didn't think it was a dirty hit. Yes there was contact with the head and by definition it's a penalty. I think when it comes to QB's it almost always results in a fine. It's an effort to make defensive players more aware of avoiding certain outcomes.

Players are getting fined every week for high hits or hits to the head. I think he may get another fine for public statement as well. I did notice he mentioned the level of the fine ( 1/4 game check ) which is below the maximum. The level of aggression is taken into account.

I forgot about this. I think it was said preseason that there would be a more strict expectation required.

Fair enough, I guess.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: theaardvark on September 12, 2025, 03:35:03 PMReavis took Collaros out of the game with an avoidable side effect of his tackle.

We haven't see that many full speed straight-on QB sacks this year.  Many, many D players in that situation find a way to go to the side & grab/throw the QB, or slow up to do a wrap-up.  "Wimpy" QBs like Zach will just turtle and take it, they never try to slip away like Rourke, VAJ or Crum.

Hitting Zach that way (even with no H2H) was fully intended to give him a huge whack and take him out.  They know full well Zach's head will hit the turf on the way down and that's game over for Zach every time.

My point is, a D in this situation can do other things besides the hellacious hit, that still result in a guaranteed sack.
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TecnoGenius

I wonder if the CFL considered the strength of the hit, not just the H2H part, when contemplating the fine.

Would be nice if they'd tell us, let the D's know exactly what they need to ease up on.
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Jesse

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 13, 2025, 02:56:01 AMI wonder if the CFL considered the strength of the hit, not just the H2H part, when contemplating the fine.

Would be nice if they'd tell us, let the D's know exactly what they need to ease up on.

I think they have. It's the H2H.

Don't do it. Period. No excuses.
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